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taidan
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:15 am |
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So I got to Lou on Expert.
He's pretty tough.
Rather, I should say that the song isn't impossible, but I have to get better at it with powerups getting in my way.
Right now I just want to beat him via the cheap way (lucky whammy powerup right before his string of green notes), but to perfect my technique I want to beat him fair and square.
People at scorehero proclaim that if you can't beat him fair on expert "you suck". I mean, I guess you do compared to the very best, but I think if you're good enough to beat the rest of Expert, get some five stars in most of the previous sets, you're still pretty good compared to the entire player base.
Guess I was wrong! |
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belthegor

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:50 am |
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Yeah, they're full of it. That boss battle is still the worst idea for a final challenge ever and has nothing to do with you sucking. It's about as skill-based as winning a slot machine. _________________
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km

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Minor character in a frame story
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:34 am |
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| IIOIOOIOO wrote: |
| km wrote: |
Having taken apart the neck on the les paul, I don't see how the notes wouldn't register unless you dipped the end of the neck in mud or something. The electrical connection looks pretty solid to me, and there's nothing special about the buttons in the neck, they're just dumb membrane switches, things people have been getting right since the 50s.
The wireless, maybe, but the problem isn't in the neck, that's for sure. |
Are they really membrane switches? You'd think they'd be plunge switches. |
Sorry, I meant dome switch. _________________
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belthegor

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:36 am |
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By the way, after like 30 tries, I finally won that stupid boss battle with the whammy powerup trick. I'm so glad I'll never have to do that again. _________________
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BalbanesBeoulve Malicious Bastard

Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:19 am |
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Jesus christ, this game is an ugly piece of shit. _________________
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taidan
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:58 pm |
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| belthegor wrote: |
| By the way, after like 30 tries, I finally won that stupid boss battle with the whammy powerup trick. I'm so glad I'll never have to do that again. |
I still haven't done it, because apparenlty I "Suck" too much to consistently gain the first powerup afer recovering from the first attack. So I ask:
should I ever get the whammy, what is the best timing for using it? I hear if you do it too early or late it won't work. |
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Monthenor

Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:53 pm |
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I'm reading entire threads in this forum between songs, because I forget the game is on! The screens explaining the boss battle rules have no music whatsoever to remind me I should be rocking.
I'm really not compelled to go through Expert after doing Hard. It makes me a little sad.
EDIT: Whoa. And once again, it swings from blah to good. Even though it's a slower song, the Expert note chart for the bonus song "Avalancha" is more compelling for me than most of the regular songs in the game.
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| should I ever get the whammy, what is the best timing for using it? I hear if you do it too early or late it won't work. |
I believe they mean the section just past your second chance at a powerup. It's much easier to score that second one, btw. When Lou takes over after that he'll have some wankery jumping up and down the frets for a few bars and then a stream of green-red-yellow. I think the idea is to hit the whammy attack just before that stream.
The fact that we're even discussing hitting a weak point for massive damage in the context of Guitar Hero fill me with impotent nerd rage. |
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belthegor

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:12 pm |
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| Monthenor wrote: |
I believe they mean the section just past your second chance at a powerup. |
No, no. It's the first. You bust out the whammy just BEFORE he hits that stream of green. And he loses immediately.
I can hit those first powerup notes as long as he doesn't use the amp overload or lefty flip on me.
By the way, he is SO much easier on Hard. I beat him through normal methods on my first try without having to resort to any tricks. _________________
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taidan
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:51 pm |
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so it is determined - I can five star the first 5 3/5 sets in the game on expert, and I can't beat the final boss. I got the whammy once on the first powerup and failed before I could use it because I freaked the fuck out.
I don't know what it is - for some reason I mess something up on that first powerup, and since I can't practice it, I don't know what I'm doing (other than panicking) to do it.
I don't actually hate the boss battle despite this - its epic and cute and aside from an achievement and some money I'm missing out on nothing really. I still want to beat it though, and I think I'd be a little happier with it if it was like the first two boss battles - relatively easy to play the song, and you both get a fair amount of power ups. I beat Slash by blocking his powerups and using my own at the right moments. In other words, strategy. The final battle doesn't toss anything your way for a while, and when it does its not easy to land it under pressure.
Though according to score hero, its "not that hard" to FC it until the first solo. How could I forget? |
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Deets

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:37 pm |
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| Can you play any of the boss battle songs on their own, outside of the context of the singleplayer mode? |
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taidan
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:58 pm |
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| Deets wrote: |
| Can you play any of the boss battle songs on their own, outside of the context of the singleplayer mode? |
Hmmmm....
Maybe battle mode? I have to check.
I really wish my local buddies would pick the game up some time.
SB'ers on my friends list - I may be paging you soon. |
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belthegor

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:18 am |
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| taidan wrote: |
| Though according to score hero, its "not that hard" to FC it until the first solo. How could I forget? |
they're right actually, ahem, cough cough _________________
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belthegor

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:20 am |
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| taidan wrote: |
| Deets wrote: |
| Can you play any of the boss battle songs on their own, outside of the context of the singleplayer mode? |
Hmmmm....
Maybe battle mode? I have to check.
I really wish my local buddies would pick the game up some time.
SB'ers on my friends list - I may be paging you soon. |
No, you can't play any of the songs outside of the boss battles. They're talking about releasing the 3 songs as DLC, for MONEY, which is ridiculous.
Also, as I have said before, I'd be glad to play anyone on Xbox Live. _________________
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taidan
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:03 am |
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| belthegor wrote: |
| taidan wrote: |
| Though according to score hero, its "not that hard" to FC it until the first solo. How could I forget? |
they're right actually, ahem, cough cough |
I've done it too (edit - at least I think so. There's no damn multiplier to check). I just don't use my own abilities as any sort of baseline of difficulty in a game, especially considering the crowd I play with is nowhere near my level. For them this battle would be a bitch even on hard, and I guess you could definitely say I'm more concerned about their enjoyment than the scorehero crowd.
That being said, the fact that the first powerup area still kills me shows that I'm probably not very good. Oh well.
I'm still the poobah of the Selectbutton Jam Band!!! |
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taidan
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:07 am |
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| belthegor wrote: |
Also, as I have said before, I'd be glad to play anyone on Xbox Live. |
Double post!
I think you sent me an invite once and I didn't do anything because there was drama on the cell phone, and now I feel like a schmuck. |
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belthegor

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:14 am |
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| taidan wrote: |
| belthegor wrote: |
Also, as I have said before, I'd be glad to play anyone on Xbox Live. |
Double post!
I think you sent me an invite once and I didn't do anything because there was drama on the cell phone, and now I feel like a schmuck. |
Naw, must've been someone else.
And you know, that stupid guitar hero site does not update stats properly at all. At least for me. Everything it says about my progress is like totally wrong. _________________
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Monthenor

Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:18 pm |
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Finally beat Lou on Hard last night, after 45 minutes of trying, and it didn't feel satisfying at all. It felt like an accident.
Guys, please re-hype me for this game. Please. |
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km

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Minor character in a frame story
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:49 pm |
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I think I've figured out what I don't like about this game:
I very rarely feel like I'm rocking out. A lot of the songs are just long, long, long stretches of the same goddamn note or pattern of notes. Anarchy in the UK, Barracuda, and that Sonic Youth song spring to mind. They might be good songs (except anarchy, ugh, why did they record that again?), but they just aren't like HELL YEAH I'M ROCKING OUT. At the end of Anarchy I was really really happy that I 5-starred it because I honestly really did not want to have to play it ever again. When your game is pretty much sold on it's replay value, that's a pretty bad thing. _________________
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Monthenor

Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:17 pm |
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| km wrote: |
| something not at all related to what I wrote |
Oh yeah, and that thing. I was so happy we'd finally get a GH without fucking Made in Mexico on the bonus list, and then it turns out there's an annoying tweedly random doesn't-sound-like-guitar song with horrible chick vocals in the main list. Some cosmic prank on the Monty.
I need reassurance that Made in Mexico isn't going to sneak into Rock Band somehow.
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taidan
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:21 pm |
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| Monthenor wrote: |
| km wrote: |
I think I've figured out what I don't like about this game:
...that Sonic Youth song spring[s] to mind. |
Oh yeah, and that thing. I was so happy we'd finally get a GH without fucking Made in Mexico on the bonus list, and then it turns out there's an annoying tweedly random doesn't-sound-like-guitar song with horrible chick vocals in the main list. Some cosmic prank on the Monty.
I need reassurance that Made in Mexico isn't going to sneak into Rock Band somehow. |
Tell me what Made in Mexico means. Because when I read your post I'm thinking Freezepop, and I kind of don't like them. |
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km

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Minor character in a frame story
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:27 pm |
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| Monthenor wrote: |
| km wrote: |
I think I've figured out what I don't like about this game:
...that Sonic Youth song spring[s] to mind. |
Oh yeah, and that thing. I was so happy we'd finally get a GH without fucking Made in Mexico on the bonus list, and then it turns out there's an annoying tweedly random doesn't-sound-like-guitar song with horrible chick vocals in the main list. Some cosmic prank on the Monty.
I need reassurance that Made in Mexico isn't going to sneak into Rock Band somehow. |
Man, it's one thing to not like a song or type of song, but it's another to quote me horribly out of context to do so :/ _________________
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Monthenor

Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:18 am |
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| taidan wrote: |
| Monthenor wrote: |
...I was so happy we'd finally get a GH without fucking Made in Mexico on the bonus list, and then it turns out there's an annoying tweedly random doesn't-sound-like-guitar song with horrible chick vocals in the main list. Some cosmic prank on the Monty.
I need reassurance that Made in Mexico isn't going to sneak into Rock Band somehow. |
Tell me what Made in Mexico means. Because when I read your post I'm thinking Freezepop, and I kind of don't like them. |
GH1: Farewell Myth, an epic journey into non-song-ness
GH2: Yes We Can, a song I played on a friend's copy because I refused to unlock it on my own, to the point where I would buy random shit in the store after every session so I didn't have enough money to unlock it for fear that a burglar would break in and buy it on my save when I wasn't home. It's that bad.
I have a feeling that Made in Mexico is a Harmonix developer joke band, invented to torture us. I'm too lazy to look that shit up, however. And Sonic Youth isn't quite that bad, but this particular song is close.
And km, you're right. Those phrases are what inspired me, but that's not at all what you were saying. Fixed? |
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SplashBeats dork, dweeb, nerd, geek, etc

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: 1-2-3-4-5-6-DO IT!!!
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:29 am |
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| Monthenor wrote: |
| km wrote: |
| something not at all related to what I wrote |
Oh yeah, and that thing. I was so happy we'd finally get a GH without fucking Made in Mexico on the bonus list, and then it turns out there's an annoying tweedly random doesn't-sound-like-guitar song with horrible chick vocals in the main list. Some cosmic prank on the Monty.
I need reassurance that Made in Mexico isn't going to sneak into Rock Band somehow. |
what the hell kool thing is fucking awesome >:||
not the best song for GH (psychomafia would've been better) but hey it's better than more shit like AFI _________________ BOUNCE SHAKE TWERK JERK !!!! |
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Leau

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Metro City
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:40 am |
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Kind of not related and kind of is; Did anyone buy this for the PS2? I'd like to know how the new guitar is. I've still just got the original from GH1 and I've never thought the whammy bar on it is as accurate as it should be. Is this a noted problem? Have subsequent guitars been significantly better, or should I not bother? _________________
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taidan
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:45 am |
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| Monthenor wrote: |
| taidan wrote: |
| Monthenor wrote: |
...I was so happy we'd finally get a GH without fucking Made in Mexico on the bonus list, and then it turns out there's an annoying tweedly random doesn't-sound-like-guitar song with horrible chick vocals in the main list. Some cosmic prank on the Monty.
I need reassurance that Made in Mexico isn't going to sneak into Rock Band somehow. |
Tell me what Made in Mexico means. Because when I read your post I'm thinking Freezepop, and I kind of don't like them. |
GH1: [url=http://your tub.com/watch?v=i1mm25dqHT0]Farewell Myth[/url], an epic journey into non-song-ness
GH2: [url=http://www.your tub.com/watch?v=v1VIpxCL4Lc]Yes We Can[/url], a song I played on a friend's copy because I refused to unlock it on my own, to the point where I would buy random shit in the store after every session so I didn't have enough money to unlock it for fear that a burglar would break in and buy it on my save when I wasn't home. It's that bad.
I have a feeling that Made in Mexico is a Harmonix developer joke band, invented to torture us. I'm too lazy to look that shit up, however. And Sonic Youth isn't quite that bad, but this particular song is close.
And km, you're right. Those phrases are what inspired me, but that's not at all what you were saying. Fixed? |
Oh no
All you had to say was Yes We Can.
Agree 100% would buy from again. |
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Monthenor

Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:19 am |
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| SplashBeats wrote: |
what the hell kool thing is fucking awesome >:||
not the best song for GH (psychomafia would've been better) but hey it's better than more shit like AFI |
See, that's the thing. I don't claim to know Sonic Youth, but "Kool Thing" is absolutely not a song that should be in Guitar Hero. Where the verses are repetitive and lame and the solo is spoken-word flirting?
And, while I don't like AFI in general, their song actually has a pretty fun chart to play through. Once.
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| Did anyone buy this for the PS2? |
I've got it, but not the bundle. I already have two guitars from GH1 and GH2. The GH1 buttons and strum bar feel like crap, and by now I'm convinced it's not because I played Bark at the Moon on it. GH2 just has a better revision of the guitar; the buttons are sturdier, the strum bar still tight, the whammy responsive. I can't speak to the new Les Paul, but GH2's guitar is a solid choice...and attached to the best game in the series! Imagine!
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Oh no
All you had to say was Yes We Can.
Agree 100% would buy from again. |
Is this the part of the thread where we all share our traumatic stories of how we encountered Yes We Can for the first (and hopefully last) time? It's definitely a "legend of rock". I'll certainly never forget. |
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taidan
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:22 am |
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The first time I played Yes We Can it was so bad I forgot what it was like.
The second time I played Yes We Can I said I'm not doing this ever again, even if it means missing out on an achievement.
I stand by my oath. |
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Monthenor

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:32 am |
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Well, I've already told you the lengths I went to to avoid Yes We Can at home.
The only time I played it, I was at the office and playing on a buddy's card. I was all "okay, I have to try this once, it couldn't possibly be as bad as Farewell Myth". By the time the "singing" actually started, my jaw was hanging open. A coworker was watching, mystified that such a thing could exist.
And when I got through the drill-whistle breakdown, and that glorious clear stretch of notes seemed to signal the end of the song, and then another verse appeared?!? I wanted to cry. I wanted to drop the guitar in the office and just cry. It's such a horrible guitar part, embedded in such a horrible song, that I have to assume the lead "singer" is blowing somebody at Harmonix.
Oh lord. Punk/salsa/reggaeton? |
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SplashBeats dork, dweeb, nerd, geek, etc

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:15 am |
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jesus it's like you guys have never heard a shitty prog song before _________________ BOUNCE SHAKE TWERK JERK !!!! |
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taidan
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:38 am |
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| SplashBeats wrote: |
| jesus it's like you guys have never heard a shitty prog song before |
Not many |
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Monthenor

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:02 am |
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| SplashBeats wrote: |
| jesus it's like you guys have never heard a shitty prog song before |
So...it's not a prank? |
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