[bleak]

If you haven't played or heard about this game yet, then you've probably been living under a rock for the past few years. RE4 is widely regarded as one of if not the best in the series, and certainly it does deserve such praise. I must say, switching the camera angle around to solve the tank controls problem was a brilliant move on Capcom's part, solving two of Capcom's essential problems in one fell swoop.

On a serious note though, it was a ballsy move by them to break from the traditional pre-rendered backgrounds, fixed cameras, ruined urbana and hidden research facilities, and it paid off in spades.

I spent most of FKW2008CE sick and infirmed, but I did manage to shore myself up for long enough to beat RE4 Wii on Pro. Again. I've played through the game many times on many different occasions, but this is the first time that I've ever played/beaten the game while using the Wii controls. It took me a while to get used to them but after all's said and done I think they're pretty much better than the GC controls.

I had some issues with the camera at times, mainly when fighting multiple Ganados from different angles where they can easily attack you from the rear. It's a similar problem to GOD HAND, but like GOD HAND, it isn't something one can really take issue with.

I paid particular attention to the level design in terms of influencing combat. The level design is pretty brilliant, with mostly fresh set pieces when needed, and when the game starts out, you've got a combination of wide open spaces and few enemies to deal with, but as the game progresses the combat quarters get tighter and smaller and the enemies become more numerous, and that's something that I think most people appreciate but don't really realize the genius of. I think level design is a lost art, but that's a thread for another day.

Let me just say that the game looks great. It even looks great now, and it shows that the art and graphics teams really knew what they were doing. This is a game that looks great, and it will always look great.

Playing on Pro was an exercise in frustration, really, as Pro difficulties are wont to be. But if you know me, you know that I love pissing myself off for no reason. And also I wanted to see the sweet Plaga Removal Laser. It was pretty sweet!

So anyway, if you've read this far, good job. Grab yourself a Black Bass (L) and treat yourself to a nice dinner. Feel free to use this thread to critique RE4 yourself, share silly merchant stories, or whatever! I will leave you with these last words: The Village as HUNK is a gaming pleasure that you will not want to miss out on.

[M. Croche]

[bleak]

this does not help.

[shrugtheironteacup]

I am a complete failure as a HUNK player.
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[Lurky]

Mercenaries is what the whole game should have been.

[bleak]

I honestly spent way more time playing around in Mercenaries than I did in the game proper. It's seriously way too much fun.

[another god]

Resident Evil 4 was pretty much a perfect game.

[bleak]

also shrug shoot a ganado in the head and run p to it to do the neck snap. it is amazing.

[Toptube]

rarely does a game come along that once I start playing I cannot stop and I basically play it as much as possible until finished. Usually that takes about 2 - 3 days. RE4 was one of those games. Its is truly a game that comes at you from all angles, graphics, solid story, fun gameplay, great overall combination of design and mechanics.


for those of you who loved and wanted more of Mercenaries, there's a game about to release called "The Club". I suggest you check it out.
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[John Mc.]

the bosses suck (did they get the fucking megaman x8 team to design these? christ.) and it needs a radar. not because leon would have a radar, per se, but because there needs to be some way to convey that you can have a better sensation of a fucking zombie (approaching you with a damn AXE) than the (so-so) camera angle provides. far from perfect, but still fun most of the time.

so, i am having fun with this game, but GOD HAND is ten times the game this is. also, playing this makes me think how GOD HAND would have been on the gamecube.

[Capitan Smexy]

You calling me an imbecil, you little Ganado bitch? Well, I'm not the one dumb enough to fucking announce myself when I'm going to sneak-attack you from behind. Imbecil.

This game is really fun to handicap-play. Last time I did so, I attempted to play Professional mode with no merchant and no enemy item drops, which manages to take the cabin stand-off scene from "excellent" to "I-cannot-find-adverbs-to-describe-just-how-awesome-it-is awesome". I am currently stuck at Mr. Chokey, the guy with the fake eye.

[John Mc.]

hokay.

this game sucks except when it's amazing, which is fortunately most of the time. but the parts that suck SUCK, so much so i don't think i'll ever play this again.

but i might, because the great parts are GREAT.

is there any chance shinji mikami is bipolar?

[M. Croche]

[tacotaskforce]

Considering how much politics play into creative teams talking about their work it's kind of impossible to get a straight answer from anyone about who is responsible for what, unless there's a crazy involved like Jaffe or something.

Oh yeah, also I love RE4, dislike Mercenaries mode, play RTS games for the story, and complete the arcade mode in KoF:MI2 to unlock the character bios. Different people have different preferences in games. Mercs is not some random happy accident, and RE4 was not a mistake that they attempted to fix with it. Mercs is a different game for different people.
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[John Mc.]

while i'd be inclined to agree, most often i am assailed by silent zombies.

silent zombies.

SILENT ZOMBIES.

sure, their friends in front of me make plenty of noise. but beside and behind? nada. i'm just minding my own business looking for someone to kill when BAM cattleprod to the left rear shoulder or some shit.

mind you they die (again?) soon afterward. this isn't my main hang-up with the game, actually. the qte nonsense and parts where this excellent run and gun stops being a run and gun and starts being a survival horror game again are my main problem.

EVOLVE DAMNIT. they need to leave the shit behind and embrace how good the games can be. no more puzzles or dumb qte or INSTANT DEATH. just more FUCKING OF ZOMBIES.

because that's when the game shines, so far as these eyes can tell.

[idle]

[Tim]

[another god]

[John Mc.]

[Predator Goose]

I should play this game again.

[John Mc.]

[John Mc.]

[another god]

[John Mc.]

it was a generalized statement about how dumb they are.

for example, the first krauser fight. dumb as hell. why couldn't i have just taken out my magnum and shot him. i even had it equipped!

it seemed to work pretty well later on anyway!

long story short, i do not like them. they suck.

the rest of the game is fun, though.

[Mr Mustache]

I really liked the "quick time events", particularly the Krauser fight.
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[another god]

[John Mc.]

where one trained professional and one cheap-ass bastard fight.

if it were two trained professionals, then i should be able to kill him in one strike too.

like i said, dumb.

[Mr Mustache]

Don't be so dismissive.
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[John Mc.]

[Mr Mustache]

Friendly suggestion?
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[John Mc.]

i am not going down this road with you.

so yes, i didn't like the qtes. re4 is not a perfect game, or even an excellent game. it is a good game. it should be proud!

[Mr Mustache]

The end really drags.

What road?
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[idle]

[Red_venom]

[John Mc.]

[another god]

[Dark Age Iron Savior]

I've been reading Let's Plays of the Resident Evil series and I frankly don't grasp the concept of the story in RE4 being worse. The real difference seems to be that the characters in previous games are convinced that they are starring in a gripping movie and the characters in RE4 are improv actors who start giggling at their lines whenever the camera isn't aimed at them.
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[Mr. Apol]

you know, not standing in one place and keeping your back to walls and the like is a good way to avoid your problem john. any time enemies appeared i would run until i could stick my back to a wall and take them on from the front only. it wasn't hard to corral enemies in this game. actually, i think, the only times i was hit from behind was when ganados would throw their weapons from behind me, because that was honestly hard to dodge/know about.
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[M. Croche]

first time through re4 i was constantly worried about getting poked right in the spine by pitchforks, spears etc, so my usual reaction, whenever enemies came pouring in, was to quick-turn back and forth like mad, firing wildly. hectic!

if you're gonna drum up tension somehow -- and here is a game where checkpoints are handed out so generously, the inclusion of healing items becomes really quite questionable -- the threat of enemies approaching you from behind seems like a reasonable place to start!

this lost under a radar / [HUD clutter argument]

[idle]

[Mr. Apol]