[professor_scissors]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58426

[sawtooth]

lol worldnetnews

lol http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58490
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[Dark Age Iron Savior]

1. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58475

2. That is a terrible site.
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[professor_scissors]

That was quick.

[sawtooth]

yeah that article and the site as a whole is really bad, sorry :(
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[Toto]

guys i kind of agree with that definition sorry :(

[evnvnv]

what about white people on other continents?

also what do you call racists that are actually really racist? like in a mean way

its hard for me to get behind this

[GcDiaz]

*ahem* This is from November 1st.

[shnozlak]

what IS this website?
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[Ebrey]

Toto, I dunno how it is in Australia, but in the US gentile whites are not the top economic tier. East Asians, South Asians (though not so much Southeast Asians) and Jews make more dough, while blacks and Hispanics make less.

Taking the old approach to racism (white people need to stop using bad names for minorities, etc. etc.) is pretty useless and unhelpful. There is still racism, but it is because people are ignorant or don't care about unfair conditions for blacks and Hispanics.

[falsedan]

Toto no sarcasm in MGH's post.

If being white makes me a racist, I'm really bad at it… waiting in Changi airport I though, "man there are a lot of Australians around", because south-east Asian/Singaporean accents sound Australian to me.

The problem with that definition is that it discriminates unfairly based on race: if your ancestors were from Europe than you're a racist. Although holy hells I haven't seen discrimination based on race or nationality anywhere near the scale of here in the UK. The Sun & the Daily [anything] D: Whee classism!

I can tell exactly where the boundary is between the London Borough of Hammersmith & Fulham (where I live) and the neighbouring Royal Borough of Chelsea & Kensington—buildings and population turn white
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[GalaxyHead]

Racism is more of power relations than actual hatred of specific races based on physical features. In the past when African Americans were denied rights and were considered scientifically inferior to whites, it was probably rare to find an African American who could be considered racist. Now that minorities are becoming more socially mobile than they ever have been (still not the level of whites, and they most likely never will be, atleast not in our lifetime), cases of African American and Asian people displaying blatant racism or stereotypical biases towards less socially mobile minority groups, such as Hispanic/Latino ethnic groups, are starting to show up.

[Ebrey]

[GalaxyHead]

I am talking more power relation racism in the U.S. currently. Basically, poor immigrant Latinos are now the main target of all races, even ones that are still systemically oppressed, as the inferior ethnic group.

[inmatarian]

The problem with calling white people racist and asserting that nothing they could do would ever stop them being racist, is that they adopt the term openly and live up to it's full potential.

It's like telling asians that they're good with math.
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[Kappuru]

Asians are the most racist people around, man.
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[GalaxyHead]

Except telling Asians that they are the model minority and that they should be good at math has been proven to do the exact opposite.

[inmatarian]

Erm... Right, right, that's called the Law of Unintended Consequences, and calling whites racist make them racist, and calling asians good at math makes them... join the drama club?
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[GalaxyHead]

Dude, we're just having a conversation, no drama.

Racism in this country should not boiled down to a few incidents, such as pointing the finger at the KKK, or Kramer when he flips out on an audience member. It is institutional, which is why it keeps repeating itself in those individual cases. Even if you don't go around calling people names or wishing a certain race would be sent to the bottom of the ocean in a tank, everyone is raised to view and judge people as somehow separate by their skin color and physical features, and we naturally generalize because of it. Of course, we ingeniously tell our kids that people are inherently different and then turn around and say BUT WE'RE ALL THE SAME HOLD HANDS LALALA, which is an obvious simple paradox even in the mind of a child.

[inmatarian]

Well, okay, I'll be serious and stop picking on the asians. I live in the Bronx, and I'm a white guy, so I basically know first hand what racism is, and what it's like being on both sides, as benefiting from it, and being the victim of it.

A good example of this would be dealing with the DMV. It's something we all routinely have to deal with. Well, bluntly put, your trip to the Bronx based DMV offices and the ease or difficulty of the process all depends on your race and the race of the DMV employee you have to deal with. I'm not exaggerating or trying to put a bad light on things, but documents and examinations do end up going through heavier scrutiny when race becomes a factor. A small tear in your Birth Certificate can suddenly be a reason to deny it as a legal document.

So, yes, I agree, it is a bad thing when institutional.
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