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klikbeep
Joined: 30 Dec 2006
Location: Tokyo
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 Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:17 am |
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| JamesE wrote: |
| I knew benroit or whatever his name was was a pedophile as soon as I saw his avatar! |
You're almost there, JamesE! Just one more virgin shit-stained cockfag cuntcock fagshit pedoGeddon hi Tim furry-licker volley for the win! Do it! DO IT!!
You can still loop this thread around to worthless.
There is still time, JamesE.
EVERYONE IS PAYING ATTENTION TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
Also! If you misspell a name in your post (Like 'JarnesE') people won't be able to search for their name using the search function! That's an important thing to remember -- people love searching for their name on the internet.
Smoking pile of tires aside, did you and Tim ever get that Sonic article going? I wanted to read that.
| Intentionally Wrong wrote: |
| I want to try paraphrasing the relevant bits of conversation: |
Seems to sum up my bits quite well!
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| Even the huge juggernaut studios in the 40's would put forth money for "prestige" films, because every now and then one of those "prestige" films would be a bigger hit than any of their regular blockbusters. I just want to see something similar start happening with games. |
I think this is a great idea, but I think that there are a few logistics problems:
1) There needs to be some way that everyone can have access to a title. The fragmentation of consoles, the disappearance of arcades, PC/MAC gaming . . . there's very little way for anything to reach everybody. Books are universal, because they give you their content delivery system with the product. Visual media -- paintings, photography -- work the same way. Movies and music have higher barriers to universality, though far less than gaming. We've got, what -- 3 major next-gen consoles, 2 portables, PCs, and then legacy gaming for older systems . . .
2) Games are long, probably by necessity. The ones you describe provide hours and hours of entertainment, which means huge budgets. Probably it would be better to train people to expect a much shorter game that was cheaper to produce. You'd have to sell it cheaper too, though, so maybe that would eat up your incentive. Dunno. Have heard that there have been moves in this direction.
3) You don't really want too much innovation, because then things get difficult to calculate. A company knows what a third Halo will sell, but it's a lot trickier to figure out what a Memento-esque Grandmother simulator covering 5 generations of immigrants is going to do. How much do you fund something like that? How do you advertise it? |
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JamesE
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Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:44 am |
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Yeah, a one-liner jab represents a major diversion in this thread. Well done, your frantic straining (for making poos) has once again given the floor, and I cede to your fat goth timcloneness. Cool it off, screech.
Or: someone with a child-like avatar with big cutesy wutesy eyes, a fairy thing and a shapely bust is at least a tiny bit more likely to support getting off on looking at kids. They've already demonstrated an affinity towards sexualised yet infantalised characters.
I need to mail Tim (your infinitely superior genetic initeration) about that Sonic article. I'm really excited for it! |
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klikbeep
Joined: 30 Dec 2006
Location: Tokyo
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:57 am |
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| JamesE wrote: |
Yeah, a one-liner jab represents a major diversion in this thread. Well done, your frantic straining (for making poos) has once again given the floor, and I cede to your fat goth timcloneness. Cool it off, screech.
Or: someone with a child-like avatar with big cutesy wutesy eyes, a fairy thing and a shapely bust is at least a tiny bit more likely to support getting off on looking at kids. They've already demonstrated an affinity towards sexualised yet infantalised characters.
I need to mail Tim (your infinitely superior genetic initeration) about that Sonic article. I'm really excited for it! |
Ah, that's the stuff. I am blowing you kisses! You should feel them on your neck just as you drift off to sleep tonight.
Have you written anything else? I went to your old Super Combo thing back in the day, but it doesn't seem to be updating. Do you have any 500-word blocks of stuff I could read? Bit out of bounds for the thread, maybe toss me a PM? |
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Wilkes
the lester bangs of selectbutton posting
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: i'm here.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:07 am |
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fairy godmilf
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: oakland, california
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:10 am |
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Hey James did I ever ask you to write for LPN? I kept meaning to and maybe I never did?
I have written half of my . . . half of the Sonic thing. It's coming along slowly. Sentences and paragraphs at a time, yeah.
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Maxson
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:19 am |
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Would you consider any previous times in gaming history as ones where highbrow games were encouraged? I'm wondering if two times in particular- the height of text-adventure games (some of the old Infocom ones, like Suspended, were interesting) and the height of EGA/VGA adventure games (when Sierra/Lucasarts made lots of them)- would fit your description. Both of these times featured serious graphical roadblocks, and both times arguably died out because these roadblocks were lifted.
And we should thank JamesE for providing a great example of how Americans split up while Japanese don't (on the surface, anyway). |
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klikbeep
Joined: 30 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:05 pm |
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| Maxson wrote: |
| Would you consider any previous times in gaming history as ones where highbrow games were encouraged? I'm wondering if two times in particular- the height of text-adventure games (some of the old Infocom ones, like Suspended, were interesting) and the height of EGA/VGA adventure games (when Sierra/Lucasarts made lots of them)- would fit your description. Both of these times featured serious graphical roadblocks, and both times arguably died out because these roadblocks were lifted. |
Hm! Man, yeah, I started thinking about IF games a lot lately. They're definitely able to be designed by one person on a nothing budget, and have a high ability to be ported cross-platform. Then again, there's a learning curve for parsers, and the games seem pretty outdated by today's standards.
Although I loved (love?) adventure games, I feel like they had some serious problems that doomed them. Why click the CREAM PIE on the ABOMINABLE SNOWMAN, and not the OLD BOOT? That, and the whole thing felt awfully on rails as you clicked around for hot spots.
How could you do and end-run around the majors? Something universal, compelling, and cheap enough to get everyone interested? A more universal format for interactive entertainment, out of Game Industry control.
Let's say a complete, 5-hour experience, delivery system included, for 20 US dollars. Something in line with a book purchase or a movie or a CD.
What kind of thing could that be? |
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BenoitRen
I bought RAM
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:44 pm |
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Sheesh, you people don't have to be such assholes.
A person who looks at pictures of fictional little girls isn't necessarily sexually attracted to them. What if (s)he finds them cute?
To me, the logic used seems quite silly, because then people who enjoy killing or raping in games would be classified as murderers/rapists in real life. Come on. It's a fantasy, it's inside your head.
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Deets
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:34 pm |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
Sheesh, you people don't have to be such assholes.
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Yeah, I'm obligated to agree, but this is the internet. I also don't think your previous post ("I think it's pretty stupid to label a person looking at drawings of fictional lolis a pedophile.") was interpreted the way you intended it to. |
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slipstream
hates LOTR films
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:49 pm |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
Sheesh, you people don't have to be such assholes.
A person who looks at pictures of fictional little girls isn't necessarily sexually attracted to them. What if (s)he finds them cute?
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Yeah, right.
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bort
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Are you related to Bandai and Namco takes of games Sent from my iPhone
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:10 am |
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| I just like to collect them. |
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RecessRapist
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:29 am |
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| Who dares steal my thunder? >:U |
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luvcraft
buy my game buy my game me me me
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: Cobrastan
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:28 pm |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
Sheesh, you people don't have to be such assholes.
A person who looks at pictures of fictional little girls isn't necessarily sexually attracted to them. What if (s)he finds them cute? |
Dude, you are the SECOND person in this thread who doesn't understand that "loli" does NOT mean "cute little girls", it means "little girl porn". If you say you like loli, people will presume you're a pedophile, just like if you say you love raping dogs, people will presume that you're into beastiality, even if you have the mistaken belief that the word "raping" means "petting". |
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Mr Stegosaurus
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:13 pm |
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| luvcraft wrote: |
| Dude, you are the SECOND person in this thread who doesn't understand that "loli" does NOT mean "cute little girls", it means "little girl porn". If you say you like loli, people will presume you're a pedophile, just like if you say you love raping dogs, people will presume that you're into beastiality, even if you have the mistaken belief that the word "raping" means "petting". |
And you are perhaps the first person in this thread who doesn't understand semantic shift. Obviously the word comes from "Lolita," but it doesn't mean that in all current contexts. My fiancee's into EGL ("Elegant Gothic Lolita") fashion, and it really is ridiculous doll-like dress-up. Man, I don't even like it. The women who wear it actually like how sexualized it is NOT, and as a dude I agree with that analysis of unsexiness. I'd rather she wear GAP. But there you go, luvcraft. The meanings of words change. |
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luvcraft
buy my game buy my game me me me
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:47 pm |
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| Mr Stegosaurus wrote: |
| And you are perhaps the first person in this thread who doesn't understand semantic shift. Obviously the word comes from "Lolita," but it doesn't mean that in all current contexts. My fiancee's into EGL ("Elegant Gothic Lolita") fashion, and it really is ridiculous doll-like dress-up. Man, I don't even like it. The women who wear it actually like how sexualized it is NOT, and as a dude I agree with that analysis of unsexiness. I'd rather she wear GAP. But there you go, luvcraft. The meanings of words change. |
My bachelor's degree in asian studies tells me that, with the sole excpetion of EGL, "loli" means "the sexualization of little girls", and my friend who has lived in Japan for years and is a Japanese Studies graduate student agrees. Even EGL originally started out being erotic, and has only gradually shifted into something not-always-erotic.
I agree that semantic shift occurs, but it takes more than just a couple of people misusing a word for it to happen (unless those people are world-famous rappers or something). |
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BenoitRen
I bought RAM
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:34 pm |
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You're contradicting yourself. What is loli now? Pornography, or sexualisation? Moe girls aren't necessarily shown nude. Certainly not the ones in fighting games.
I was talking about the moe fans, not loli fans, as that's what this Force Feedback article complains about, no?
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| Whenever I read things like "id like to by a new car," I cringe inside, imagine some grunting ape who happened across a keyboard, and move on without thinking about the attempted message. |
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Lestrade
Mary McMoePanties
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Toronto
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:06 pm |
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| Intentionally Wrong wrote: |
| klikbeep wrote: |
| Gruff McHardBody or Mary McMoePanties |
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Toups, may I have the custom title, "Mary McMoePanties"? Seriously?
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Toups
tyranically banal
Joined: 03 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:07 pm |
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...if you really want it, yeah.
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JamesE
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:09 pm |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
You're contradicting yourself. What is loli now? Pornography, or sexualisation? Moe girls aren't necessarily shown nude. Certainly not the ones in fighting games.
I was talking about the moe fans, not loli fans, as that's what this Force Feedback article complains about, no? |
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luvcraft
buy my game buy my game me me me
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:16 pm |
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Thread end!
I think we've all learned some valuable lessons here: Never overload an electrical outlet, if you find a dead bum in the gutter tell a grown-up, and if a stranger touches you in your bikini area, create an article about it on Wikipedia.
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Lestrade
Mary McMoePanties
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Toups
tyranically banal
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:33 pm |
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it is done!!
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Lestrade
Mary McMoePanties
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Lestrade
Mary McMoePanties
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winkerwatson
badmin
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:46 am |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
Sheesh, you people don't have to be such assholes.
A person who looks at pictures of fictional little girls isn't necessarily sexually attracted to them. What if (s)he finds them cute?
To me, the logic used seems quite silly, because then people who enjoy killing or raping in games would be classified as murderers/rapists in real life. Come on. It's a fantasy, it's inside your head. |
i can't get enough game rape
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slipstream
hates LOTR films
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:23 am |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
You're contradicting yourself. What is loli now? Pornography, or sexualisation? Moe girls aren't necessarily shown nude. Certainly not the ones in fighting games.
I was talking about the moe fans, not loli fans, as that's what this Force Feedback article complains about, no? |
shut up shut up shut up
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