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Dark Age Iron Savior
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 Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject: Re: The Doujin Scene and Underage Girls: God, Why? |
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This topic is amusing, but mostly for it's lack of intelligent conclusions or thoughtful considerations.
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That article is hilarious! I somehow get the feeling it's one of those Onion (or some other parody) articles that accidentally got confused with real news. |
The article itself may be scare tactics/shit stirring, but this (self-identified pedophiles promoting their viewpoints on Wikipedia) is a real phenomena. You'll also find people who have sex with animals and who deny the Holocaust ever happened at Wikipedia, doing their best to make their views known and accepted (not that I immediately associate those two deviant behaviors, but you see what I'm getting at)
You might want to read the Wikipedia page linked from here if you want to feel uneasy for a while.
EDIT: An auto-biography of a Wikipedo.
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luvcraft
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| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:32 pm |
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| Balzac wrote: |
| Oh come on. All of the above have loli characters (where loli refers to anything that looks like the Japanese equivalent of a precious moments figurine). |
Wait, WHAT? Loli is short for "Lolita", which specifically means "the sexualization of underage girls", as per the popular novel Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov. It does NOT mean "Precious-Moments-looking", although the two do sometimes overlap.
You might want to clear that up before you tell someone "Final Fantasy Tactics is my favorite loli game" and accidentally get branded a child molester.
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| The article itself may be scare tactics/shit stirring, but this (self-identified pedophiles promoting their viewpoints on Wikipedia) is a real phenomena. You'll also find people who have sex with animals and who deny the Holocaust ever happened at Wikipedia, doing their best to make their views known and accepted (not that I immediately associate those two deviant behaviors, but you see what I'm getting at) |
Even worse than that, you find people who don't like Ico on there trying to make their views known and accepted!! And just like the pedophiles, the racists, and the puppy-rapers, any non-encyclopedic opinions they add to articles are promptly removed by the seething gestalt of Wikipedia editors. The fact that Wikipedia editors (read "everyone in the entire world with access to a computer") include pedophiles doing their best to make their views known and accepted is no more noteworthy than the fact that the population of whatever country you live in includes pedophiles doing their best to make their views known and accepted. |
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Dark Age Iron Savior
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:43 am |
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| luvcraft wrote: |
| Even worse than that, you find people who don't like Ico on there trying to make their views known and accepted! |
From now on, when I'm tempted to try and talk seriously with you, I'll remember this and decide against it.
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Mr Mustache
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:17 am |
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I agree with Jame's sentiments regarding this repulsive and not mac compatible phenomenon, but do wish his initial post was a bit more content heavy.
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BalbanesBeoulve
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| Mr Mustache wrote: |
| I agree with Jame's sentiments regarding this repulsive and not mac compatible phenomenon, but do wish his initial post was a bit more content heavy. |
Yeah, that's my problem with this front page post. There's no actual content and his opinions aren't particularly novel or interesting. |
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dessgeega
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:28 am |
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there are a lot of sweeping generalizations for a frontpage post, i feel.
i do share james's sense of discomfort, though.
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BalbanesBeoulve
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Is it thoroughly impossible to view little girls as cute without sex entering the picture anymore? I mean it's a bit ridiculous, there are plenty of games that star young boys as protagonists, and nobody is sexualizing them.
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luvcraft
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:47 am |
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| Dark Age Iron Savior wrote: |
| luvcraft wrote: |
| Even worse than that, you find people who don't like Ico on there trying to make their views known and accepted! |
From now on, when I'm tempted to try and talk seriously with you, I'll remember this and decide against it. |
My point was that evangelical pedophiles have as much influence on Wikipedia as evangelical videogame haters, or anyone else with an agenda, and that any non-encyclopedic edits they make are quickly reverted by other editors, regardless of whether that edit is saying that screwing kids is AOK, or that white people are superior to black people, or that a videogame sucks.
I wasn't trying to be smarmy or trying to trivialize pedophilia, I was trying to create perspective. Your statement that "You'll also find people who have sex with animals and who deny the Holocaust ever happened at Wikipedia, doing their best to make their views known and accepted" made it sound like Wikipedia is overrun by these people and that you never know what article you'll be reading when you stumble upon a secret message supporting pedophilia or beastiality. My response was that anything non-encyclopedic is typically methodically stricken from Wikipedia when it's found by other editors, regardless of how controversial or deviant the subject matter is or isn't. Thus, anyone on Wikipedia trying to promote their opinion on pedophilia has just as little long-term effect on Wikipedia as someone trying to promote their opinion on Ico. |
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luvcraft
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:48 am |
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| dessgeega wrote: |
there are a lot of sweeping generalizations for a frontpage post, i feel.
i do share james's sense of discomfort, though. |
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haze
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| it was quite banal, wasn't impressed. |
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BotageL
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:34 am |
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Oh, okay. I see. Somewhere along the line "boring anime style" got reworded as "pedorific moe crap." That explains a lot about this post. It doesn't make it any less dumb or generally poor for a front page post (which is supposed to represent the best and most interesting topics of discussion, right?). Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of the generic animu style, but I'm quite willing to look past it in favor of seeing what the actual games have to offer, and not make silly sweeping generalizations about all Japanese amateur computer games.
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klikbeep
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:48 am |
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Pop Music and Animated Bestiality: NO THANKS!!
I saw a video. Partially animated. Pop song. Pretty good stuff -- definitely had a modern edge to it. Then I noticed something. Inferred animated bestiality. That is fucking sick. I know that it might appeal to all of the furry humping pervert basement dweller net clicker sidewinder Japanophile wankoff perverts out there, but seriously. Grow up and get a job. And not one where you touch animated animals.
Anyway, that girl. I saw her on American Idol, not because I watch that show, which I totally don't, because it's full of Britney Spears wannabes and fake plastic people that are huge jerks. But it was on by accident at my friend's house, where I go a lot, because that's where we're working on our JAMMA cabinet, and somebody accidentally hit the remote with their foot, and the TV clicked on, and I made the connection. Then I closed my eyes, and sort of held my hand behind my back, and I walked backward at the TV until I could turn it off so I wouldn't have to look at it.
I asked my friend how something like this could happen. He didn't have a good answer for me. He said something about a guy who I'd never heard of, and I don't want to know anything about the person at all, because inferred animated bestiality is completely gross.
Man, what is the deal with it!?!? I would be really interested to know more about what could cause someone to make and broadcast something like this, except it is COMPLETELY WRONG and also SICK so I am not interested.
What do you think??
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JamesE
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:10 am |
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Legato I'd be able to maintain my considerable respect for you a lot more easily if you didn't turn into a giant moaning puss the second someone speaks unkindly about your stupid wong bong dong cartoons. They are not an extension of yourself. My flatmate takes mortal offense any time south park is insulted and you know what? It's boring as fuck. Do you self-identity as an ANIME FAN? Because that's sort of kind of sad.
I'm still working out the art of frontpage posting and it was just supposed to be a quick blog entry about how I didn't want to play lots of free 2D games because they all had stupid little girls in. I may amend it to express my disappointment with Mega Mari (which is half-cocked shit) and my infatuation with Blue Sabers, the only game that wasn't aimed at fat pimply beardos in kimotos (sup Klickbeep?) and has a really nice gimmick to suppliment it's essential Raidenness. I suppose I could toss out a few links to freeware but there are already around 4000 sites online that watch that shit like hawks and we need ourselves a fuckin' niche.
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klikbeep
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What's up, James? ^_^ Hello!
I was kind of making a little joke there (see previous post)!
I guess I'm just trying to figure out your tone here. Is moé in doujin games something you find disturbing and confusing and want to understand? Was it just sort of a general venting about stuff you dislike? Man, stuff that people dislike -- there's a bottomless well for you!
Your whole angry attitude about stuff is pretty funny! But~~! Don't you think that you've kind of wrapped up the discussion before it starts when you do that? Basically, anyone who might want to try laying out information for you already feels on the defensive.
I find the gross stuff pretty gross, but I'm fascinated as to how it's so firmly intertwined with other aspects of otaku fancruft here. It's just that anyone that might be inclined to "rap" with you might feel a little put-off by your kind of full-on attitude!
Why did you imply that I am fat and pimply and bearded and wearing a kimono, James? |
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Mr. Mechanical
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:41 am |
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Oh God klikbeep wins this thread.
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klikbeep
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:52 pm |
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| Mr. Mechanical wrote: |
| Oh God klikbeep wins this thread. |
Man, I don't want to WIN. I just want to know what's going ON. Nobody EVER tells me what's going on. It's pretty much a recurring theme. I feel like the only man without a peg leg at the Pirate Disco.
James, please tell me why you strongly implied all of those things about me. They are COMPLETELY wrong ideas. Where did you get all of those ideas James if it was from a person maybe I could talk to them |
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luvcraft
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:19 pm |
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| klikbeep wrote: |
| James, please tell me why you strongly implied all of those things about me. They are COMPLETELY wrong ideas. Where did you get all of those ideas James if it was from a person maybe I could talk to them |
I feel pretty confident that he was just trolling. Actually, I feel pretty confident that he started this whole thread just to be silly and ranty, and it would've normally just received a few "haha! you made funny over-generalizations!" replies if it hadn't been "legitimized" by being frontpaged. Maybe he feels bad about a post that was supposed to just be silly groundless ranting (which is fun to do from time to time) being "legitimized", and is trolling in it to try to "de-legitimize" it.
I don't know why he picked on you, though, klikbeep. Everyone knows that you really look like Orlando Bloom as drawn by Tom of Finland. |
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klikbeep
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:33 pm |
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| luvcraft wrote: |
| I don't know why he picked on you, though, klikbeep. Everyone knows that you really look like Orlando Bloom as drawn by Tom of Finland. |
Or a Chia Pet as cut by Hawkes of Savile Row. |
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Rud31
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JamesE
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:45 pm |
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klikbeep
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:23 pm |
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No, that's me -- Brendan! Brendan Lee. I am holding a bag of pork rinds in that photo! Boy, do I look happy.
Boy, somebody musta switched your refrigerator Post-Its, or something! That happened to me once, and I went to the doctor to try and get a dozen eggs! Whoops!
Hey James -- what did you use to make your avatar? Is it a loop, or will it stop eventually? Because I've been looking at it for a while now, and no end in sight! |
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Toups
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:36 pm |
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No, that's me -- Brendan! Brendan Lee. I am holding a bag of pork rinds in that photo! Boy, do I look happy. |
Not just pork rinds -- microwavable pork rinds!
The first time I came across those was a very joyful moment. I got them as a birthday present for the bassist in my band.
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Mr Mustache
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:53 pm |
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| I'm not the biggest fan of the generic animu style, but I'm quite willing to look past it in favor of seeing what the actual games have to offer |
Separating form from content is a tricky thing. I don't think it works. If a game is a chore to look at, it will be a chore to play.
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klikbeep
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:05 pm |
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| Mister Toups wrote: |
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No, that's me -- Brendan! Brendan Lee. I am holding a bag of pork rinds in that photo! Boy, do I look happy. |
Not just pork rinds -- microwavable pork rinds!
The first time I came across those was a very joyful moment. I got them as a birthday present for the bassist in my band. |
Man, so how do they work? I never bought them. Is there condensation in there that puffs them up, or what? Are they soft or crispy?
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| Separating form from content is a tricky thing. I don't think it works. If a game is a chore to look at, it will be a chore to play. |
I guess what's really interesting to me is how closely aligned the aesthetic is. While I think moé is still kind of a word looking for a definition - - I've heard it applied to more than just lolita types - - they sure do like to gussy up their pastel shooters.
I'm not sure if the whole moé thing is a labor or love or just clever marketing to a solid fanbase. Maybe a little of both. I've heard some theories floated that it'll burn itself out -- I mean, how many different times can you put a different-colored hat on a character and call her someone new?
Then again, I figure it probably would have by now if it was gonna. Seems to be concentrating . . . building to something.
Something kinda worrying. |
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Toups
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:25 pm |
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| klikbeep wrote: |
| Mister Toups wrote: |
| klikbeep wrote: |
No, that's me -- Brendan! Brendan Lee. I am holding a bag of pork rinds in that photo! Boy, do I look happy. |
Not just pork rinds -- microwavable pork rinds!
The first time I came across those was a very joyful moment. I got them as a birthday present for the bassist in my band. |
Man, so how do they work? I never bought them. Is there condensation in there that puffs them up, or what? Are they soft or crispy? |
I have no idea! I'm way too terrified of the holy power of microwavable pork rinds to ever actually TRY them. I reckon they inflated like a bag of popcorn or something. No telling how it tastes though.
I can't eat pork rinds because they will forever pale before the glory that is cracklins
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RecessRapist
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:30 pm |
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Are the Desu maidens(I forget their names) considered lolitas? Because if they are then I know about 15 pedophiles IRL.
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luvcraft
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:27 pm |
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| RecessRapist wrote: |
| I know about 15 pedophiles IRL. |
With a name like RecessRapist?? Surely not! |
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RecessRapist
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:29 pm |
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| luvcraft wrote: |
With a name like RecessRapist?? Surely not! |
I'm not even 18 >_>
And hentai scares me.
Oh well, being portrayed as a pedophile is better than being portrayed as an anime fag I guess. (I started using this SN recently) |
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klikbeep
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:35 pm |
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| RecessRapist wrote: |
| (I started using this SN recently) |
And it clearly marks you as an individual of class and distinction! No doubt you'll soon be receiving a lot of unsolicited advertorials from wealth management firms. |
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BotageL
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| klikbeep wrote: |
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Awesome post.
Honestly guys, from many of the posts here, I'm SO FUCKING RELIEVED that pedophiles are taking their time to speak up in Wikipedia (and furries and people who think that the holocaust never took place,) because you know, Wikipedia is not about conservative views on matters, it's about neutral points of view, which means that people who think differently are supposed to debate on stuff in order to reach the most neutral point. I know most of you guys would never even consider the fact that a pedophiliac can have a point of view that is worthy of listening, but the truth is that there is a lot of different people in this world, and no one is intrinsically right. The way Wikipedia works is not perfect, evidently, but sometimes I've read the talk page of some articles, and I like the discussions going on. (Of course; assuming, uninformed edits are never good whichever way you put them, be them by pedophiles or videogame nerds or scientists.) |
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Mr. Mechanical
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:50 am |
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| Oh God klikbeep wins this thread. |
Man, I don't want to WIN. I just want to know what's going ON. Nobody EVER tells me what's going on. It's pretty much a recurring theme. I feel like the only man without a peg leg at the Pirate Disco. |
Dude, I gave up trying to figure out what was going on with this community a long time ago.
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| Koji wrote: |
| I know most of you guys would never even consider the fact that a pedophiliac can have a point of view that is worthy of listening, but the truth is that there is a lot of different people in this world, and no one is intrinsically right. |
You Are Never Entitled to Your Own Opinion.
The holocaust happened. People who deny this are intrinsically wrong by fact of, well. . . fact. The other examples are kind of different, of course.
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luvcraft
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OMG that video was filled with delicious tangy awesome. Especially the very end. For most of it I was going to say "Tai Chi Master's better" but that end totally pushed it over the top for the win.
That was a great article about fact versus opinion until the author shot himself in the foot halfway through by claiming that there's no such thing as opinion, and then concluding by talking about estimates which are a form of opinion. But yeah, I think that people arguing that something that happened did not happen, unless they're taking the "all of the past is an illusion and we only exist right now" approach have a lot less legs to stand on than people arguing against popular opinion, even if their arguments are totally reprehensible. |
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Persona-sama
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Oh come on. All of the above have loli characters (where loli refers to anything that looks like the Japanese equivalent of a precious moments figurine). Lillian Fourhand is a great run'n'gun but I'll be dammed if the design doesn't raise an eyebrow.
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I just watched this about the game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z34aQVL1Sqg
Skip ahead to 3:10 - pretty awesome giant boss battle action! I like how they're combining the action of shooters and platforming games and then mixing it together with a school anime about yuri. It's funny!
Anyway, this whole "moe" thing is just the wave of interests that the people making the doujin games and buying them are into. It's the same with like 80's Japanese action games taking the appeal of Hollywood action movies and converting them into games for the arcade and NES like Contra.
James, I think your opening post is just too riled up with anti-Japanese and pedophilic sentiment. It's more a scathing attack on everything rather than a post to encourage conversation.
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RecessRapist
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But I'm not old enough :'(
Also that video wins. |
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Adilegian
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:38 am |
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Still reading through this thread, but I wrote in my Segagaga blog about this very subject! It baffled me. Here's the permalink:
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7464447&publicUserId=5772603
EDIT: This isn't self-promotion, honest. There're some resources in there that I haven't seen mentioned thus far in the thread, and those resources might be useful.
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| Man, I don't want to WIN. I just want to know what's going ON. Nobody EVER tells me what's going on. It's pretty much a recurring theme. I feel like the only man without a peg leg at the Pirate Disco. |
The best way to relieve this social awkwardness is to make a necklace out of the peglegs of pirates whose whaleroad trawlers you have scuttled. If at all possible, have each one of them scrawl his name upon the base of the pegleg before his life finally dribbles over the hilt of your rapier which, at the time of pegleg removal, should be firmly wedged between one aorta and its corresponding ventricle.
Note, however, that the above suggestion applies only to literate pirates. How to tell which pirates are literate and which are not? A tough call. If the painful sea over which you and he make lusty swordplay comes with close-captions for the hearing impaired, try speaking in Japanese. If he stops and stares at your belt, trolling his eyes horizontally left to right (that's his left to right, your right to left), then he is reading the subtitles. These are the pirates whom you should make sign their oaken stave-calves when you send them to the Great Plunder, as the Christian pirates are wont to call the hereafter.
This necklace will serve as the equivalent of bling medallions that promise women in normal discos a chance to succor the sexual energies of a sun god.
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Persona-sama
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If you're at that part of the script, you're pretty close to the end of the game, right? I recall moe-heavy conversation first starting up around the third development sector - or is that more towards the middle?
Good work with that though. Segagaga needs to see the light of day in America, even if we won't get half the jokes.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:57 am |
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| Persona-sama wrote: |
If you're at that part of the script, you're pretty close to the end of the game, right? I recall moe-heavy conversation first starting up around the third development sector - or is that more towards the middle?
Good work with that though. Segagaga needs to see the light of day in America, even if we won't get half the jokes. |
Thanks for the support!
On the placement of that conversation in the script... we're not exactly hitting the translation material in sequential order. We're tackling it one batch at a time, as it appears in the code. The text that that particular moe conversation comes from is designated, by its placement in the code, as (1) a Control Room Conversation that (2) might or might not occur according to what has happened to the player during the game.
From the long view, I'd say that the moe-heavy stuff comes more toward the late middle of the game.
We're a in kind of a pickle with the localization, though. No one's (to my knowledge) seen or heard of our erstwhile programmer! All this jText with no one to code it into the game!
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:27 pm |
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The "pedophiles on wikipedia" topic is a distraction; ignore it. They may be an unfortunate inevitability of natural selection. They may be choking our prison system and likely to offend again. Whatever. The subject is "moe's prevalence in games", and the implications thereof.
Art is successful when it is unconventional. An artist working from a formula or template should look for ways to break that template. If only part of a work is formulaic, then that part must not be what the artist considered important.
So, doujin games using the moe style are lopsided experiments in gameplay. Likewise their counterparts in the commercial sector! Smething asymmetrical like Disgaea is more like a short story, while something symmetrical like Cave Story is more like a novel. Notice that length isn't the determining factor: whether the asymmetrical game is made by one person or a hundred--whether it lasts fifteen minutes or fifty hours--it's distinct from the symmetrical experience.
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