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Adilegian
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 1:17 am        Reply with quote

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HOLY SHIT!

If it's 100 years after his death, hasn't the copyright expired thus making this public domain material?
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 2:13 am        Reply with quote

I don't think it was copyrighted, and the article did say anyone could read them if they went there.
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 3:15 am        Reply with quote

Ronnoc wrote:
I don't think it was copyrighted, and the article did say anyone could read them if they went there.

Someone needs to transcribe that shit ASAP for the internet.
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Winona Ghost Ryder
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 8:42 pm        Reply with quote

Thomas Pynchon's technical writing for Boeing.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:24 pm        Reply with quote

Stephen King is most certainly not literature. But does one have to read him? So far I made sure to avoid his works, but I still keep wondering: Has he written any good books? And which three should I get, if any?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:25 pm        Reply with quote

I thought his latest book was pretty good, you might want to just go with that. The Shinning and Pet Semetery would be my other recommendations off the top of my head.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:13 pm        Reply with quote

Ok thanks, might be the perfect easy summer reading. And with the weather looking rather bleak I should get into the right mood.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:25 pm        Reply with quote

Just keep in mind how much the dude needs a good editor. Which is to say BADLY.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:50 am        Reply with quote

Jose Saramago died last Friday ;_;
He was truly one of the best living writers. I highly recommend The Year of The Death of Ricardo Reis, Blindness, and The Gospel According to Jesus Christ.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:21 pm        Reply with quote

:(

If you want a good laugh, though...

Tucker Stone wrote:
Some professional book blogger was telling me that the reason the Larsson trilogy is so popular--and yes, that's the original definition of popular, the one you're only supposed to pull out for Harry Potter and Twilight level shit--was because the author was dead. I disagreed: the reason these books are sorely in need of meat cleaver editing is because the author is dead.

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Winona Ghost Ryder
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:00 pm        Reply with quote

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/jul/19/lawyers-open-unpublished-kafka-manuscripts
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:21 pm        Reply with quote

:o
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:11 am        Reply with quote

So this is kind of a big deal to some.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:19 pm        Reply with quote

Stating the obvious.
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Winona Ghost Ryder
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:34 pm        Reply with quote

Ishiguro and Coetzee are the only contemporary non-american english writers that strike my fancy. Any recommendations?

Also Martin Amis

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:43 pm        Reply with quote

David Britton.


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Adilegian
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:42 am        Reply with quote

Cocaine Socialist wrote:
Ass


Nabokov quotation from this.

Amis wrote:
"Curiously enough, one cannot read a book," he once announced (at the lectern), "one can only reread it."

This is pretty much the only way I can read poems at all. The first five readings are usually getting acclimated, and finally the readings after those are the poem.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:26 pm        Reply with quote

I've just finished The Jokers by Albert Cossery. It's about a varied group of dissidents in an unnamed Middle Eastern city, who decide to create subversive pro-government propaganda as a means to undermine the state. The novel is ironic to the bone, and is able to display it in such a powerful yet effortless way, that it's kind of outstanding.

Before that I read The White Hotel by D.M. Thomas, a novel about a troubled young woman who is treated by Sigmund Freud for a good portion, and eventually succumbs to the holocaust. The structure provides an interesting read in that it begins as a long poem, and heavily uses the epistolary format of letters.

It should also be noted that the later novel is somewhat of a legend in its numerous failed attempts at adaptation by a who's who of directors. It's not surprising to see that Malick (with his unproduced project The English Speaker), and Cronenberg (with A Dangerous Method), were associated with it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:53 pm        Reply with quote

Interview with the dude who's being scouted as a potential replacement of Rick Barthelme as the head of the fiction program at my grad alma mater's PhD program. The guy drips with more machismo and snarling than interests me, but I'm curious if anyone here's read his novels.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:28 am        Reply with quote

Started reading Gravity's Rainbow yesterday. 25 pages in. Already one of the most fucked-up books I've ever read. Digging it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:16 am        Reply with quote

elvis.shrugged wrote:
Started reading Gravity's Rainbow yesterday. 25 pages in. Already one of the most fucked-up books I've ever read. Digging it.

Oh man you haven't seen anything yet. It's tough going but it's completely worth the slog. I'm currently almost done reading Against the Day, m'self. It's not as good (read: literary) as Gravity's Rainbow by any means, but there are moments scattered throughout the book that stand up against anything in GR.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:35 pm        Reply with quote

I really need to sit down and read AtD. I should pick up a paperback copy of it, because lugging the hardback around is really a pain in the ass. But, at the same time, I want to reread GR, which is the only longer Pynchon I have finished. We should have a GR book club thing here or something.

elvis.shrugged wrote:
Started reading Gravity's Rainbow yesterday. 25 pages in. Already one of the most fucked-up books I've ever read. Digging it.


Shiren is right. Shit only gets more wonderfully fucked up from there.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:57 pm        Reply with quote

Frank Miller designed a cover for it.



It would be pretty amazing if he ever felt like trying to adapt it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:58 pm        Reply with quote

That's by Frank Miller!? One of the things that drew me to it was how awesome that cover art is. The sleeves and back are amazing, too. The back cover depicts a German D-Day leaflet, showing England being bombed to Hell.

I'm looking forward to slogging through this book. I'm glad to hear that it's worth it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:33 pm        Reply with quote

Yeah the Penguin graphic classics book covers are done by comic artists.
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I just happen to have started trawling through this as well. I think this is the third time I've tried - the first time with pencil and paper at hand and its certainly helping. Being a bit anal with books it did rankle initially to scribble on the deluxe penguin edition seeing as its so beautifully put together.

I'm about 120 pages in now the furthest I've got in my three attempts. I'm finding the note taking helps me from zoning out in the longer passages as people seem prone to do with Pynchon and man I'm really enjoying it this time. I've read V and Vineland in this past but this is definitely a step above - the sort of HOLY CHRIST moments you get when he starts tying loads of threads together and the writing starts clouting you in the head with the magnitude of his ideas are on a much higher level here I think.

And it has been pretty fucked up so far but nothing yet as ball-shrivellingly discomforting as the nose-job chapter in V - now theres some fucked up shit.
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is absolutely amazing. 99 retellings of the same story in styles ranging from olefactory to dog latin.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:13 am        Reply with quote

I now have Suttree.

I am going to read Suttree.

It was a toss between this, No Country, and All the Pretty Horses.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:15 am        Reply with quote

Good choice.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:23 am        Reply with quote

There is a moonshaped rictus in the streetlamp's globe where a stone has gone and from this aperture there drifts down through the constant helix of aspiring insects a faint and steady rain of the same forms burnt and lifeless.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:29 am        Reply with quote

Adi I think you will like McCarthy even more than most because of your poetical background.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:32 am        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
Adi I think you will like McCarthy even more than most because of your poetical background.

holy shit yes

Down there in grots of fallen light a cat transpires from stone to stone across the cobbles liquid black and sewn in rapid antipodes over the raindark street to vanish cat and countercat in the rifted works beyond.

McCarthy is giving me confidence.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:03 am        Reply with quote

midnight melonmounter
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I don't like McCarthy what do I do.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:55 am        Reply with quote

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negativedge wrote:
I don't like McCarthy what do I do.

Give up reading.
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CubaLibre wrote:
negativedge wrote:
I don't like McCarthy what do I do.

Give up life.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:40 pm        Reply with quote

but I am good at reading

life, maybe not so much
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