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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:16 am        Reply with quote

Oh shit yeah the 120 days of Sodom... yeah I did not enjoy that shit.

The movie, "Salo", was just the kinda stuff I firmly attempt to avoid remembering or thinking about.

I am reading Mishima's "The Sailor Who Fell From Grace with the Sea." I'm suprised that I'm actually really enjoying it.

Man, Yukio Mishima. What a joke. What a gong show.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:09 pm        Reply with quote

rabite gets whacked! wrote:
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Man, Yukio Mishima. What a joke. What a gong show.


Explanation? Or are you refering to his biography?


Apologies. I was referring to the man, not his works. Though, it feels not quite right to be separating the two so cleanly.

That nhilistic thing of his shows up in his work a lot too, though. That shit's just laughable to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:53 am        Reply with quote

I have thought over nhilism and... while I agree it's an outlook that is good to consider and learn about [and certainly that a work rife with it is not demerited because of that, just that I end up taking it with a couple dozen more grains of salt.], it most certainly leads to the dark side.

So to speak.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:20 am        Reply with quote

I just re-read "The Catcher In the Rye" and that seemed to get me back in the mood for reading things until they're finished. So I'm getting back to Murakami's "Kafka on the Shore", now.

I think 'Catcher in the Rye' is one of the most uplifting books I've ever read.

and I just read Camus' "The Outsider", and I really enjoyed that. I don't really understand where this whole absurdism thing could end up but I love the concept. Right now it seems like something I can get behind. As you mentioned, Dracko, Camus' responds to the question of suicide. Since suicide appears to be the endpoint of nhilism to me, I'd all but ignored it. I've just got no desire to approach that well again. Still though, it's always time for changing perception and things are never so simple.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:15 pm        Reply with quote

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yeah, see, i read that one in japanese.

i thought birnbaum didn't do too badly. murakami himself sometimes uses some weird expressions you need to double back on. so maybe he was trying to preserve that? jay rubin, on the other hand, makes the prose very readable, hence his being the more preferred of the translators. i mean, the books sell better when rubin translates them.

how to properly translate a novel! it's a tough question!


I think it's rather wonderful that they have more than one great translator on hand to deal with Murakami's work. The validity of each translation can always be put into question, but I think that if you know the spirit and style the book was written in is leaning more towards being in synch with the spirit and style of one of those translators... well then that's about as good as you can hope for it to get.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:17 pm        Reply with quote

I think I'm forgetting something here. Where does it say that he's getting institutionalized into an asylum or whatever?

and yeah, I definitely enjoyed the book much more when I was young, dumb and ugly, though it hasn't lost much of it's relevance to me, I think. It's nostalgic, at the very least.

Adilegian, I would consider suicide to be the "worst possible conclusion" of depression and... I guess the best part of 'Catcher' in that respect is that it always holds out some hope for Holden.

I dunno, I guess I just don't find it as depressing as everyone seems to think it is?
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:50 am        Reply with quote

Oh man I am so excited for that. Forgot that it came out yesterday. Going to the bookstore tomorrow to get it.

...I think this is the first book I have ever been truly anticipating the release of.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:35 am        Reply with quote



read this book, sb.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:03 am        Reply with quote

Three generations of Japanese-Canadian women [one born Canadian] narrate their various stories in a kind of stream-of-consciousness clusterfuck that combines oral-tradition storytelling with scrapbook memories of living on the Canadian prairies. Their family runs a mushroom farm.

It's magical realism told in layers: the grand-daughter tells her life story from her own perspective as well as her mother's and grand-mother's, recalling events as well as twisting them [and making some up to fill in the holes in her memory], to her boyfriend in-between bouts of marathon fucking.

Mainly the use of language in the writing is beautiful. Japanese onomatopoeia is used a lot [without translation]. The grand-mother's sections flow like a sound poem.
When I say life-story, it's not really a biography. Traditional Japanese folk tales pop up [though they're never identified as such. they just kinda... slip in. easy to tell though if you already know them or you look for a change in the voice] and get twisted a bit and a lot of the conversations that take place are more or less telepathic.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:41 pm        Reply with quote



Another book everyone should read. Some of the best first-person narration I've ever read. The main character is an almost-teenage boy with what is I'm thinking most likely Asperger's syndrome, and it is about family, the ups and downs of relying only on yourself [in unusual ways], and a Sherlock Holmes-inspired investigation into the murder of a neighbourhood dog.
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