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internisus shafer sephiroth
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: Managing Your Finances (especially student loans) |
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I think I've probably made this thread before, but I need to do it again. I'm pretty lousy with money in the long-term sense of planning out how to manage expenses and debts. I don't even seem capable of researching and understanding my relevant options. Currently, I do not have a place of my own, so my monthly expenses include only my cell phone bill, a $100 payment to a debt collector for a years-old insurance-disputed medical bill, and my student loan payments. Plus whatever groceries, etc. I have never had a credit card.
I "paid" for college entirely by myself, and I have something like $25k federal and $80k private loan debt. I had a problem with my private debtor being totally unreasonable, asked to whom I should send a letter, and sent that letter twice with no reply. A phone rep told me that my letter was received and my case being considered. Soon after, I was contacted by a debt collector. So the entirety of my private student debt is with a collector now. My credit fucking sucks, and my dad, as cosigner, took a hit that's been hurting him with regard to his mortgaging capabilities and such. It's quite a bad situation.
Anyway, the bills I have for student loans together come to like $1050 per month. This is the chief reason why I have failed so far, at nearly 25 years old, to not live with my parents. These loans are unconsolidated. I don't even know if I can consolidate the private stuff that's with the debt collector now, but in any case all I've found when I've gone looking to consolidate are interest rates and payment plans that fail to reduce my monthly payments.
So I'd to get some perspective. A lot of you do or have gone to school, and, if you don't mind sharing, I'd like to know how much of the burden you are or have been personally responsible for and how you have handled that. If anyone knows a lot about how to manage this stuff or has any other advice for me, I'd sure appreciate it. I'm trying to get myself out of a 2.5 year-long rut, and I've never really known what I'm doing in this area.
If it's of interest, I'm working (primarily) as a freelance proofreader. This month happens to be a very good month for me, and I'm bringing in $2400. The workflow is extremely unreliable, and this is around triple what I can expect most months as guaranteed. I'm working hard to find more work of this kind; it's a very good match for me, and I'll be great once I have enough work. I'd like to be making more than $3000 per month as a minimum, and I don't think that's unrealistic. Once I find the work to make that much, I won't really be that uncomfortable with my student loan situation anymore, but I'd still like to know how I can better manage it.
I don't mean for this thread to be only about me. I know not everyone is comfortable talking about these things, but, for those who are, I'm curious to hear about other people's financial situations and how they handle them, even if it doesn't help me in any way. |
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internisus shafer sephiroth
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:11 pm |
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It's cool, man. I actually take a selfish comfort in hearing of someone else whose folks make so much money that financial aid is out of the question but who won't contribute a dime to education costs.
What kind of law are you going into and what do you plan to do with it down the road? |
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internisus shafer sephiroth
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:51 pm |
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A judge! Are you going to be a district attorney along the way, do you think? That always looks exciting. I think it's cool that you plan to both prosecute and defend, and that makes sense for a judge's credentials. That's the limit of my ability to say anything about legal professions though. Anyway, it sounds like you'll have an interesting and important life.
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| internisus wrote: |
| I had a problem with my private debtor being totally unreasonable, asked to whom I should send a letter, and sent that letter twice with no reply. |
Mind if I ask who the lender was? I had a private lender that was a total bastard after graduating, and I've found the federal government MUCH more gracious regarding repayment. |
The Stafford loan folks have been pretty nice, it's true, but my economic hardship deferment days just ran out, so I have to start dealing with them too now and trying to negotiate a lower monthly payment until I find more work and can afford what they want. I don't think there's anything left I can do to put things off there.
The private lendor was uh the State of New Jersey. In the form of a company or entity of some kind called the New Jersey Higher Education Student Assistance Authority. Let me tell you: their customer service blows. |
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internisus shafer sephiroth
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:41 pm |
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| It's not as clear-cut as that sarcastic political line. Financial need is determined very simply, based upon your family's income. They don't factor in your family's debts or cost of living. The reason why my dad didn't make the expected "family contribution" is because, although he makes like $90k/yr, the cost of living in New Jersey is extremely high and he has lots of debt that eats into his income. Plus my family had a lot of medical expenses during that period. So FAFSA and my school determined that I was ineligible for financial aid because my father has a sizable income, but I didn't have anything going into school with which to pay. While I was coming from a place where I had a roof over my head provided for me and obviously didn't live below the poverty line, those facts had no relation to my actual financial need in attending college. |
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internisus shafer sephiroth
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:03 pm |
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I'm forced to acknowledge that my selection of college (ignoring outright cheap public institutions) was based on the same thought-process as that which led me to college in the first place: the cultural and familial expectation that I should go to college and go to "the right college for me." If I had had the perspective then that I do now, I might not have gone to college at all. Due to the subsequent debt and the uselessness of my degree in getting jobs, I often feel regret that I did, but at the same time I value much of my time and education there. I was able to attend many small, highly participatory classes that made an important impression upon me.
This is largely my way of eschewing responsibility for the choices that led to my burden of debt, from one perspective, but it really is the truth. In any case, the road not taken doesn't really matter when it comes to planning a logistical future. |
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internisus shafer sephiroth
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:58 am |
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| niitaka wrote: |
| internsius, how did you get started as a freelance proofreader? do you like the type of work / amount of work you have to do? |
I got lucky and found a newspaper ad. I work for a typesetter here in New Jersey that receives outsourced work from nearby publishers like Erlbaum. I never met any of these people and had only a brief phone interview. I tweaked my resume so that the writing, formating, and proofing aspects of my past jobs were emphasized to the point of giving totally false impressions of what I did with most of my time. I'm not really convinced they even looked at my resume, though. I made myself sound qualified on the phone even though I really had no experience at all, and they sent me a test--a sample chapter. Fortunately, they sent a sheet of proofreading notation with it, so I was able to take my college Pocket Keys for Writers (for the ins and outs of APA style and whatnot) and pretend I knew what I was doing. I spent like two days meticulously red inking that thing; I put waaay more into it than I do with any of the actual work. A lot of what I did crossed the line into (simple) copyediting. But they loved what I did, especially because I was neat as hell, and they called me up and hired me. This was back in August, I think.
The books I've worked on so far have included new editions of The Garland Handbooks of Southeast Asian (1) and Latin American (2) Music, a volume about policy and funding of U.S. education, a book about heritage language learners, a clinically-minded survey of reading comprehension, etc. Right now, with enormous irony, I am proofreading a book about distance learning and correspondence education making use of modern technology; apparently, by 2010, at least 50% of American college degrees will be earned through eLearning types of things.
It's a really, really great job. I'm good at it and can do it fast and well, so basically I make on average $160-$200 in 5 hours of work. I can work when and how I please because my only concerns are catering to the idiosyncrasies of each assignment (this author is very stubborn so try not to change much of the punctuation; this one is a contributed volume so worry about consistency within chapters but not throughout the book, etc.) and making deadlines. I think that, if I had the opportunity to do it, I would refrain from breaking into the more lucrative and creative copyediting business simply because this is so easy to me.
That said, it can be frustrating at times. Those ethnomusicologists and statisticians use commas as a substitute for every other punctuation mark; you wind up correcting the same problem over and over and over within a particular author; you have to exercise careful judgment about a lot of iffy things; sometimes I swear no especial citation style is in use at all; and nobody likes combing through ten pages straight of references. But you get good at all that real quick, and about half the time you're basically skimming through at half a page per minute ($1.60 per page) with the good writing. Plus, sometimes there are pictures. And often the material is actually interesting!
Oh, also, when you go into freelance work, you write your own invoices and shit, and no taxes get taken out of your checks, so you have to plan ahead for the huge sum you'll owe the government at tax time.
Anyway, I love this as a way to make a living. Only problem is, this company only has so much work to send my way, and I haven't had any luck yet finding other work I can do at home to build the freelance lifestyle I want. I've found that I get less than a book a month on average, which means I usually make less than $1000 per month with this job. I'm having a really good and busy month right now though that will net $2500. But I'm running out of time to bring up that income; I absolutely have to find more work by the end of February. I don't know what will happen if I don't.
Bottom line: My plan for Ultimate Success and Happiness is to be doing like five times as much of this work as I am now. Hell, I could make $60k a year working 5 hours a day! And the rate I'm paid per page is probably a low point for the industry, too! Getting more work like this would solve all of my problems LIKE THAT. I would be happy and free and I would live my damned life. |
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internisus shafer sephiroth
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:05 pm |
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| Capt. Caveman wrote: |
| Hey internisus, what's the name of the typesetter you work for? I live in NJ and I'm looking for a similar gig. I very nearly submitted an application to proofread for http://www.writersrelief.com/index.asp but decided not to because they look sort of...not too legit. Also, what do you think are the odds of me being hired for a company like the one you're working for if I'm in the middle of college and haven't earned a degree in anything yet? |
Name of the company is EvS Communication Networx. Though you won't/had better not get any work from them, since I'm supposed to have it all!
I feel obligated to mention that my latest book is about 670 pages of research on reading comprehension. It's interesting, and the length isn't the problem. The problem is that the pages are 50% longer than usual, and the density of problems to note and references to cross-check are higher than normal. I've had to ask for a week's extension, in fact, because my pace is so slow on this one. I'm doing like 15 pages every two hours. It's terribly frustrating. But I figure that this is the price I pay for being able to breeze through most assignments. |
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internisus shafer sephiroth
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:40 am |
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Yeah, it is. I'm kind of depressed about it because the slow pace and missing this deadline are canceling out my earlier feeling that I was doing alright and making decent money for the month. But it really is interesting--I think I'll actually buy this book at some point. It goes into detail about the history and relationship between all these different theories of how people learn to read, an incredibly complex process that involves parsing, decoding, meaning-making, etc. The theory stuff alone is just so interesting.
As an aside, maybe some here will be interested: in the past half-year, I've worked on at least four education books with contributed chapters by experts in education, psychology, economics, psychometrics, statistics, etc. Over and over, I've read different cases from different corners that all come down to: No Child Left Behind is a horrible, horrible thing because it wants to pretend that education is simple when it's really incredibly complex. In the area of reading comprehension, just for one, NCLB has brought us back to before the 1970s. |
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