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Takashi

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RobotRocker C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!

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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: I want to go to London. |
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| Takashi wrote: |
| Next month. If I use a horribly cheap flight to London Stansted how screwed up am I? Because it seems like actually arriving to central London is more expensive than my flight there. |
Very screwed. You would be paying for a £35 return into London itself on the Stanstead Express into Liverpool Street and probably have to pay for a Travel card to get to where you are staying so it could end up paying up to £50-70 for travel costs inside London. Its usually worth the extra to fly into Heathrow as the Piccadilly Line runs under it and you can get into central London for about £4 max. And if you are staying for long. Get an Oyster card, otherwise you will be screwed on underground/bus fares. _________________
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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:34 pm |
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What's in London? _________________
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Takashi

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google

Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: I want to go to London. |
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Very screwed. You would be paying for a £35 return into London itself on the Stanstead Express into Liverpool Street and probably have to pay for a Travel card to get to where you are staying so it could end up paying up to £50-70 for travel costs inside London. Its usually worth the extra to fly into Heathrow as the Piccadilly Line runs under it and you can get into central London for about £4 max. And if you are staying for long. Get an Oyster card, otherwise you will be screwed on underground/bus fares. |
He wont need a return, will he, because he wont be returning to the airport for a few days.
15 quid to get into Liverpool St.
4 quid to get to the hotel.
Easy.
Where are you staying?
Might be worth seeing if they have an airport shuttle? _________________
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RobotRocker C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!

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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: I want to go to London. |
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| google wrote: |
| RobotRocker wrote: |
Very screwed. You would be paying for a £35 return into London itself on the Stanstead Express into Liverpool Street and probably have to pay for a Travel card to get to where you are staying so it could end up paying up to £50-70 for travel costs inside London. Its usually worth the extra to fly into Heathrow as the Piccadilly Line runs under it and you can get into central London for about £4 max. And if you are staying for long. Get an Oyster card, otherwise you will be screwed on underground/bus fares. |
He wont need a return, will he, because he wont be returning to the airport for a few days.
15 quid to get into Liverpool St.
4 quid to get to the hotel.
Easy.
Where are you staying?
Might be worth seeing if they have an airport shuttle? |
Its cheaper to buy a return because the normal Stanstead Express ticket is about £28 on it own. Also, I don't recommend getting the "One" network trains into Liverpool St. if you are carrying anything of value, particularly at night.
See if there is a shuttle. Otherwise, its better to get an express in. _________________
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les meat

Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Location: The sea
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:22 pm |
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| What's in London? |
absolutely fucking everything
its one of the most culturally rich places on earth
if you go do yourself a favor and check out places like brick lane, thats the sort of bits that actually make it good. The center is mostly a tourist-fest _________________
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google

Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:24 pm |
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| les meat wrote: |
The center is mostly a tourist-fest |
By virtue of there being lots to see, of course. _________________
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skonrad

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Vizzyvancizzouver
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:03 pm |
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I was just in London, but I worked the entire time, which was a bit of a pissoff. I took the express train from Heathrow, which was faster and less irritating than a shuttle or a cab, and then grabbed a cab to the apartment I was staying at off of Oxford. I can't remember how much it cost altogether, but it wasn't absurd. Food prices kind of killed me, and the level of service at restaurants / bars is pretty terrible from the North American perspective. _________________
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google

Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:59 pm |
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| Food prices kind of killed me, and the level of service at restaurants / bars is pretty terrible from the North American perspective. |
Yeah - going back of Christmas kind of brought this home to me.
It's fucking terrible.
But then, they get paid fuck all, with fuck all tips, in a huge, fucking busy city. _________________
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Takashi

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Dracko a sapphist fool

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:28 am |
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My experience of London has been mostly crap, honestly.
It beats Paris, though. _________________
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Martial Loh

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:27 am |
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i'd pay the extra for the Stansted express - the normal rail service is not good.. Also, you gotta pay £3ish for the actual oyster card - it is refundable, as far as i know...and i think you can probably apply and get one whilst you're abroad, in preparatiion.
Pro tip - bendy buses are unofficially free..haha!
Brick Lane/Old St area is good.. Lots of clubs & bars to choose from |
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google

Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:30 pm |
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That said, if you pulled an all-nigher, where would it be? Because I would provably try and make the most of my time instead of sleeping. I can do sleeping at work. |
All nighters are fairly easy to pull in London, simply because of the amount of people, and the abundance of 24 hour Cafe's that resign in the alleys for when the clubs close.
Where would I go?
Pascha... _________________
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sam

Joined: 28 May 2007 Location: osaka
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:04 pm |
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| i've pulled loads of all-nighters in london to avoid getting early trains or waking people up, the trick is to keep going from chinese restaurant to chinese restaurant getting different rice in each one. |
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GalaxyHead

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Discrimination of male social status by female hamsters
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:10 pm |
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3-5 story arcades. _________________ “We completely understand the public’s concern about futuristic robots feeding on the human population, but that is not our mission,” - Harry Schoell, Cyclone Power Technologies Inc, in response to erroneous reports about a robot under development. |
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google

Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:24 pm |
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| sam wrote: |
| i've pulled loads of all-nighters in london to avoid getting early trains or waking people up, the trick is to keep going from chinese restaurant to chinese restaurant getting different rice in each one. |
Or spend three hours in a cafe drinking one cup of tea! _________________
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skonrad

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Vizzyvancizzouver
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:39 pm |
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| skonrad wrote: |
| Food prices kind of killed me, and the level of service at restaurants / bars is pretty terrible from the North American perspective. |
Yeah - going back of Christmas kind of brought this home to me.
It's fucking terrible.
But then, they get paid fuck all, with fuck all tips, in a huge, fucking busy city. |
Bars are usually better (especially in contrast to Vancouver) and not outlandishly expensive. Kind of a tradeoff. _________________
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google

Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:46 pm |
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| skonrad wrote: |
| google wrote: |
| skonrad wrote: |
| Food prices kind of killed me, and the level of service at restaurants / bars is pretty terrible from the North American perspective. |
Yeah - going back of Christmas kind of brought this home to me.
It's fucking terrible.
But then, they get paid fuck all, with fuck all tips, in a huge, fucking busy city. |
Bars are usually better (especially in contrast to Vancouver) and not outlandishly expensive. Kind of a tradeoff. |
I fucking hate the Vancouver bar scene.
FUCKING HATE IT.
Skonrad, why does a Vodka and Cranberry cost me $7 in Crush? _________________
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falsedan

Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:21 pm |
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Don't catch the Stansted express, it costs too much for the level of service. £5 for an easybus that takes about 90 minutes vs. £12 for a 40 minute train
If you are staying for about a week, get an oyster and buy the appropriate weekly travelcard—a zones 1 and 2 costs ~£24 and gets you a lot of places, and you can stick another £5 on there to pay for travel in zones 3-6 if you feel like it. A 1-2 weekly travelcard gives you unlimited tube, national rail, bus and light rail travel from Greenwich to Acton, Archway to Clapham.
So about £40 should cover transport for a week, hope you've got some cheap accommodation near the city! If not, YHAs are OK if you can stand dorms, YHA St Pauls is right in the city (£19/night) and YHA Holland Park is literally in the park (£22). Also bringing your own food might be a good idea.
The Prospect of Whitby is a relaxed pub in Wapping, though stuffed if I can work out how to get there now that the East London line is closed. _________________
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falsedan

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:30 pm |
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OH hell you are staying for three days? Depending on where you're staying, your bet bet is to get an oyster and put about £15 work of pay-as-you-go credit on it. The maximum you'll be charged in one day will be less than the pre-bought paper travelcard.
The Prospect is a nice pub which I'd be happy to buy you a pint in, is what I meant to type.
The only good food that England has over continental Europe is soggy chips. Mmm soggy chips… bring some tins and a fork, you will save loads _________________
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google

Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:38 pm |
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| falsedan wrote: |
The only good food that England has over continental Europe is soggy chips. Mmm soggy chips… bring some tins and a fork, you will save loads |
Roast Dinners.
Scones.
Yorkshire Puddings.
Stews.
Soups.
All for relatively cheap prices.
Also, we do good Italian food.
EVERYWHERE. _________________
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falsedan

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:48 pm |
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I cannot comment on the quality of English Italian restaurants until I have had some porcini fettuccine here
also hell I forgot about the tea _________________
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google

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:25 pm |
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| falsedan wrote: |
I cannot comment on the quality of English Italian restaurants until I have had some porcini fettuccine here
also hell I forgot about the tea |
It's spelled Porchini Fettuchini.
LOL. _________________
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falsedan

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:29 pm |
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Hey look I don't even pretend to speak Italian, let alone spell it
edit oh wait I see what you did there _________________
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sam

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:51 pm |
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| admittedly i've never been to india and chances are they've got us beat here, but that fact notwithstanding i'm pretty sure the UK does the best indian food in the world. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:20 pm |
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Dunno, the best indian food I've had was from a family get-together of a Kenyan housemate.
mind I don't eat tikka masala so maybe it is mindblowingly awesome _________________
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sam

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:29 pm |
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i don't eat tikka masala either (or any meat for that matter) so i maybe have a skewed perspective i guess. there's a definite quality to anglo-indian cuisine that i'd really miss before long, though, i doubt it'd pass for mindblowingly awesome in the eyes of many chefs but i think as a staple national diet you could do a lot worse!
on a similar asian-food-cooked-by-africans note, the best chinese food i've ever had was in ghana. for some reason they've really taken it to heart over there, it wasn't quite what i was expecting from the country but i couldn't complain. certainly found it easier from a non-meat perspective than kenya, at least... |
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falsedan

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:42 pm |
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Well! My Kenyan friend's family were all Jains, which (in my mind) is a religion all about cooking incredible food without animal products. Jainism is an ancient Indian religion and my friend was ethnically Indian, but his family relocated there when India and Kenya were both part of the Empire _________________
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skonrad

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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:28 am |
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| skonrad wrote: |
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| skonrad wrote: |
| Food prices kind of killed me, and the level of service at restaurants / bars is pretty terrible from the North American perspective. |
Yeah - going back of Christmas kind of brought this home to me.
It's fucking terrible.
But then, they get paid fuck all, with fuck all tips, in a huge, fucking busy city. |
Bars are usually better (especially in contrast to Vancouver) and not outlandishly expensive. Kind of a tradeoff. |
I fucking hate the Vancouver bar scene.
FUCKING HATE IT.
Skonrad, why does a Vodka and Cranberry cost me $7 in Crush? |
All of the places I drink are mostly restaurants (Cafe Barney, etc.) -- the exceptions are Score (because I live next to it and know the staff) and The Morrissey, because it's actually a good bar. As far as clubs, Honey and Lick aren't awful, but the people who go to Honey are, and Lick is lesbians, so you know, it's good for that if you know lesbians. The Biltmore is getting good, I hear...
I like Jamaican curry the most. I had really good Indian in London though. Everywhere else had an abundance of canned and frozen vegetables. Vile. :( _________________
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:06 am |
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All of the places I drink are mostly restaurants (Cafe Barney, etc.) -- the exceptions are Score (because I live next to it and know the staff) and The Morrissey, because it's actually a good bar. As far as clubs, Honey and Lick aren't awful, but the people who go to Honey are, and Lick is lesbians, so you know, it's good for that if you know lesbians. The Biltmore is getting good, I hear...
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I dont know any of these places.
Take me out. _________________
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Mr. Apol king of zembla

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: a curiously familiar pit
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:33 am |
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fyi this is the best thread on select button right now _________________
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PianoMap

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: victoria, british columbia
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:12 am |
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| google the Vancouver bar scene sounds worryingly like the Kelowna bar scene the way you put it |
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Takashi

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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:16 pm |
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Seriously considering Heathrow for 150€ vs Stansted's 100-ish€. If I add the shuttle rides, I think it pays off. Also, my out flight is stupid early, so in Heathrow should be easier/safer to arrive in the wee night.
That means... arriving late Feb 3rd, stay 4rd - 5th, and leave 6th, arriving in time to work in the afternoon (or the morning - man, that will be rich). I'm taking advantage of the Carnival vacations, that I believe aren't holidays in London, because I think there may be shopping to be performed. _________________
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falsedan

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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:31 pm |
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be aware that the tube doesn't run from 0030 till 600ish, so if you have to get to heathrow early in the morning you may have to bus it or catch a heathrow express _________________
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Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:28 pm |
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| digi wrote: |
| google the Vancouver bar scene sounds worryingly like the Kelowna bar scene the way you put it |
I've never been out in Kelowna.
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:47 pm |
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les meat

Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Location: The sea
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:44 am |
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Itallian Coffee Co, small pizza place off Goodge street has awesome 11inch pizza for £4, open till 11. About the best price/quality tradeoff I've found in the center
So you can go to the Goodge Street Casino basement for some beat/shoot em ups then grab a pizza there!
good plan that is
There is some awesome eating opportunities, people who say its rubbish probably went to the obviously terrible places. _________________
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falsedan

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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:04 am |
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I'm not yet totally used to buying things in pounds, so I eat at some incredibly shitty places as long as they're cheap
Temple Foods in Aldgate does sandwiches for £1.50! That's value for money right there _________________
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:48 am |
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| falsedan wrote: |
I'm not yet totally used to buying things in pounds, so I eat at some incredibly shitty places as long as they're cheap
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Explain this statement.
It's totally fucking easier buying things in pounds.
Not tax to think about.
No obligitory tip to give. _________________
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falsedan

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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:14 pm |
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Imaging I have a pile of Australian money, and I am using my credit card to buy things in the UK with this monies.
£3 cup of coffee => AU $6.50 cappuchino => bloody rip-off
I am getting paid in pounds now so hopefully I'll stop thinking that £220/week for a studio is ridiculously expensive, what the hell, I could rent a three-bedroom terrace in newtown for that (in AU$) _________________
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