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CubaLibre
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Especially when such a huge part of law is research in the first place. Any lawyer is always going to have all the materials available that he needs. The only exception is during oral argument. I keep saying we should have oral exams.
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XORDYH
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:33 pm |
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| CubaLibre wrote: |
| Especially when such a huge part of law is research in the first place. Any lawyer is always going to have all the materials available that he needs. The only exception is during oral argument. I keep saying we should have oral exams. |
I was going to say that I would think they would test this, but I guess since not every person that gets a law degree is going to be a trial lawyer it isn't entirely necessary. |
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CubaLibre
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:21 pm |
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| ssj-xordyh wrote: |
| CubaLibre wrote: |
| Especially when such a huge part of law is research in the first place. Any lawyer is always going to have all the materials available that he needs. The only exception is during oral argument. I keep saying we should have oral exams. |
I was going to say that I would think they would test this, but I guess since not every person that gets a law degree is going to be a trial lawyer it isn't entirely necessary. |
I guess, but I think oral examinations should be a much larger part of education in general. They're certainly far more useful for assessing a student's knowledge than locking them in a room with a pencil for an hour.
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XORDYH
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:19 pm |
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| CubaLibre wrote: |
| ssj-xordyh wrote: |
| CubaLibre wrote: |
| Especially when such a huge part of law is research in the first place. Any lawyer is always going to have all the materials available that he needs. The only exception is during oral argument. I keep saying we should have oral exams. |
I was going to say that I would think they would test this, but I guess since not every person that gets a law degree is going to be a trial lawyer it isn't entirely necessary. |
I guess, but I think oral examinations should be a much larger part of education in general. They're certainly far more useful for assessing a student's knowledge than locking them in a room with a pencil for an hour. |
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I wouldn't consider a civil engineer who is a whiz at designing bridges on paper to lack knowledge simply because he's bad at giving oral presentations. Or what about people who are better visual or tactile learners than auditory learners. They are going to be better at presenting material in the format that they are better at learning it in. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:54 pm |
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| I sure hope such a civil engineer to be able to communicate his ideas in person as well as on paper. Otherwise I'd prefer not to step or drive on any of his constructions. |
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CubaLibre
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:04 am |
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Truth: oral communication skills are always useful.
Oral exams aren't "presentations" in the vacuous corporatespeak sense of the word. They're simply the ability to have on-point conversations with someone who is actively not going to let you bullshit through something. They're dialogues.
At any rate, I was speaking more about liberal education - you know, the education everyone is supposed to get before their vocational training, in grammar school.
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