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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Q*Bert Killscreen Nightmare
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: What Does Your Handwriting Look Like? |
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While scanning the pictures for my Moleskin gush thread, I realized that I want to know what everyone's handwriting looks like. So let's call this a "Vanity Handwriting Thread."
Meaning:
(1) You can take extra care that your handwriting's maybe neater than shorthand, but
(2) it still has to reflect your general handwriting style.
For superdouble-dog fun, write the sentence (of your choice) in both print and cursive! (But be sure to write out what you used as your sample text at the end.) I chose a short poem by Wendell Berry.
Here's my print:
And here's my (awful, oafish) cursive:
April Woods: Morning (Wendell Berry)
Birth of color
out of night and the ground.
Luminous the gatherings
of bloodroot
newly risen, green leaf
white flower
in the sun, the dark
grown absent. _________________
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shrugtheironteacup man of tomorrow

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: a meat
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:03 pm |
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I took no care with this. No effort could improve my terrible handwriting. Most people says it's obnoxiously tiny, and this scan is a bit blown up:
The opening from Sam Delany's dhalgren, which I hate and love but mostly hate.
Because my rule is reduction of print size at all costs my n, u, and r all tend to pretty much look the same. This is just the first and easiest example that comes to mind of the ways in which my letters have turned into vague suggestions of the letters I intend.
My average e looks like a c.
The dot of my standard i probably doesn't clear the body.
Bits of letter that should be distinct from other bits just generally run right into those other bits. In quantity (and at actual size) it results in impenetrable black walls of text few people can make sense of.
But at its actual size everything looks very tidy. _________________
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Location: Balmer
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:03 pm |
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My handwriting is pretty impenetrable. I can read it though.
But, no scanner! _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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!=

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: the planet of leather moomins
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:11 pm |
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I have (had) the habit of scanning my notes. Handwriting, and finding the right style is somehow important to me.
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Toups tyranically banal

Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Location: Ebon Keep
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:47 pm |
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whoa _________________
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Baron Patsy whiny, oversensitive, socially awkward

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:48 pm |
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| != wrote: |
I have (had) the habit of scanning my notes. Handwriting, and finding the right style is somehow important to me.
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Your handwriting looks like Elvish script. |
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internisus shafer sephiroth
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:52 pm |
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!= your handwriting is amazing. Possibly the first handwriting I've seen that impresses me more than my dad's.
Adilegian, your handwriting seems better here by far than I thought it was in the moleskine thread, where I can't read what the fuck you've done.
I print everything. I write very carefully and deliberately, and I'm not quick or visceral enough in the head to often think faster than I write. If I am for some reason jotting something down quickly, I just print very fast, which produces a sloppy and skewed version of the below. I've abandoned cursive because I don't like how it looks at all. I hate my signature, by the way. We should be posting signatures, too. Especially to compare with handwriting.

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The Drunken Samurai tedious

Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:56 pm |
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you guys should look at Dave Mauro's handwriting. _________________
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!=

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: the planet of leather moomins
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:15 pm |
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| Baron Patsy wrote: |
| != wrote: |
I have (had) the habit of scanning my notes. Handwriting, and finding the right style is somehow important to me.
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Your handwriting looks like Elvish script. |
My handwriting back in the early nineties was downright elvish, adapted from tolkien's script, mixed up with some old letters I've seen from my grandfather, back when they were written with feathers, with long cursives.
(I really like Adilegian's thin, long letters by the way)
My current one re-emerged as a sort of gothic script mixed up with some modern influences.
However, writing while being transported within metal encased vehicles turn my script into some barely legible version of this. Also, you can't write such a script with just about any pen. |
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falsedan

Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:22 pm |
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I forget what my chickenscrawl looked like, but I stumbled on [http://briem.ismennt.is/4/4.1.1a/4.1.1.1.quick.htm]this handwriting tips site[/url] and a month later I was writing proper Italic
internisus your handwriting reminds me of mine a lot _________________

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Mikey

Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Location: endless backlog
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:52 pm |
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The one really weird thing about my handwriting, at least when I've compared it to others, is how I write a letter K.
See, most people I know Start by making a vertical line like this: |
Then throw on the other bit like this: <
But when I write a letter K I make sort of a crooked 'V': |/ and then add a downward dash to finish it off. If I had a scanner handy I'd show you, but alas, I sold mine off to make ends meet! |
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M. Croche

Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:23 am |
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Ashura

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: Far East of Eden
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:59 am |
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!= needs to have a font made out of his handwriting.
Meanwhile, my handwriting is, uhhhh. |
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Sushi K
Joined: 08 Dec 2007
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:04 am |
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I've read some books on graphology and studding people's handwriting, but I forgot it all. Interesting stuff though.
What I found interesting was as part of a drafting course they taught letter formation and my writing has never been the same. _________________
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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Q*Bert Killscreen Nightmare
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:18 am |
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| =! wrote: |
| I have (had) the habit of scanning my notes. Handwriting, and finding the right style is somehow important to me. |
I had the same quest once upon a time, though I can't say my results were as attractive as yours. I'm sure I've got some of those old notes around home somewhere. I'll dig them up.
Do you use special pens?
| internisus wrote: |
| Adilegian, your handwriting seems better here by far than I thought it was in the moleskine thread, where I can't read what the fuck you've done. |
Yes, my intention was to obscure! When I'm working at my best, only I can comprehend morphemes from my pet ink slugs.
| Sushi K wrote: |
| What I found interesting was as part of a drafting course they taught letter formation and my writing has never been the same. |
How so? Please tell us for free the university secrets that you paid money for!
| shrugtheironteacup wrote: |
| But at its actual size everything looks very tidy. |
I hereby dub thee the Monet of scripting! _________________
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diplo

Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Location: Brandy Brendo's bungalow
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:11 am |
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this is an interesting thread.
i'm much cleaner when i'm taking notes for a class, but, uh - this is how i really "write." i guess i'll edit my post later on when i can scan said notes. |
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Kappuru forum bishonen

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:04 am |
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Good Idea for a thread. Does anyone know if Handwriting analysis really works?
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internisus shafer sephiroth
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:09 am |
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| Well, now! You're pretty easy on the eyes--how 'bout some more? |
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: take me on a blatant doom trip.
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:42 am |
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internisus shafer sephiroth
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:45 am |
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| It's kind of interesting that you can revert to the way you wrote in younger years. |
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: take me on a blatant doom trip.
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:48 am |
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| Well, I wrote that way until freshman year of high school, so I guess it is just ingrained in my head. It used to be a lot more sloppy, and what got me to change was that it got to the point where I could not read anything I was writing, so I sat in class for a few weeks and forced myself to relearn to write, and yeah, there it is. |
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shrugtheironteacup man of tomorrow

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: a meat
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:57 am |
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My current handwriting actually resulted from a conscious decision to make it as small and precise as possible when I was about twelve or so. Before that it was all big round letters w/ huge loops etc. My current scribble actually works best when using certain "micro" point roller ball pens, but I prefer the feel of a certain Lamy "extra fine" fountain pen, so that's what I used for my example despite it loosening things up a bit, resulting in less neat print.
It's possible that I think about these things too much.
| Adilegian wrote: |
| shrugtheironteacup wrote: |
| But at its actual size everything looks very tidy. |
I hereby dub thee the Monet of scripting! |
Probably the nicest thing anyone will ever say about me. _________________
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!=

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: the planet of leather moomins
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:51 am |
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| Adilegian wrote: |
| =! wrote: |
| I have (had) the habit of scanning my notes. Handwriting, and finding the right style is somehow important to me. |
I had the same quest once upon a time, though I can't say my results were as attractive as yours. I'm sure I've got some of those old notes around home somewhere. I'll dig them up.
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I even have some sort of "blog" made up of those notes. I liked the idea of:
1- putting some physical effort into posting stuff on the internet
2- making google's/spider's life difficult
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Do you use special pens?
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I try to write correctly with whichever pen's around me, especially at work where they would only restock on hand-aching ball pens, and where I'm afraid of losing a fountain pen.
Actually I dropped the fountain pens at work due to the paper they provide us, which for some reason cannot cope with all the ink. My writing then takes too much time to dry up. Also, my fountain pens are slightly too thin for my handwriting. Maybe I'll get one of those calligraphic fountain pens. They were all the rage at the undergraduate school I was studying at.
Otherwise I am pretty fond of the Pilot G-2 and occasionally write with a mitsubishi sign pen with a very dignified style. |
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internisus shafer sephiroth
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:07 am |
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| Yeah, the G-2 is a pretty great pen for its market. I prefer the 05 to the 07 though it's harder to come by. |
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shrugtheironteacup man of tomorrow

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: a meat
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:33 am |
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A Sanford uni-ball ONYX micro was the pen of my childhood and what I use if nothing else is at hand.
At some point before I stumbled on to a relatively cheap fountain pen I took to writing w/ a Copic Multiliner SP with a .25 nib. Since it was an "art" pen I had to replace the nibs every 100 pages or so.
I've never found a Pilot pen that I'm that fond of, but I think it's just because of my desire for the finer line which obviously isn't in the interest of others.
Excuse me for continuing to add things, but I think way too much about the tools for someone with my horrible scrawl. _________________
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Capitan Smexy

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:43 am |
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A couple of quotes from HBO's Deadwood:
I didn't realize until doing this excercise that writing cursive with a mechanical pencil is much harder than writing with a pen. I also realized that I forgot to include part of a quote in the cursive version.
I skip letters with abandon when it comes to my signature, so it's little more than random scrawl. |
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shnozlak

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: pushing crates in the sewer level
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:32 pm |
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After years and years of testing and psychologists Ive concluded that there is some thing wrong with my brain (read "learning disability") that causes my brain to chop things up into larger chunks than most people do. For example I have an insanely hard time think of letters as distinct entities inside the word. As a result I write the letter K differently for every common word that uses it. Every word I commonly use has its own look and is stored in terms of an image of the written word. As a result my writing is bad and difficult to improve as my brain doesn't want to let go of the old images.
This also results in me being bad at say manual math or learning to correct my spelling tendencies yet I can perform extremely well when applying concepts I understand at a higher level. _________________ Mixtapes galore ~ VG MUSIC
ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ http://phantom-photon.tumblr.com/ |
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Location: Balmer
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:57 pm |
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shnoz, that's pretty cool.
There was that old meme a while back that claimed that some scientists had discovered that people pay attention to the presence of letters but read words as wholes, and so therefore as long as you write a word with the correct first and last letters, all the letters in between can be whatever order you want. Of course this "discovery" was written in this very way and, indeed, was perfectly readable.
I wonder if the "word-images" are so hard-coded in your brain that this wouldn't work for you? _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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wasted potential

Joined: 19 Jul 2007
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:59 am |
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Swimmy

Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:33 am |
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A semester's worth of notes. _________________
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!=

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: the planet of leather moomins
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:20 am |
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| Swimmy, I would need a microscope to read this ;) |
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Location: Balmer
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:57 pm |
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swimmy a semester of what LITERATURE FOR ANTS? _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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Churippu Mister Mercury

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Flick of the wrist
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:05 pm |
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When I find my graphology book I am going to look at this thread and know every little detail about each and every one of you.
It is quite scary how much I can get out of your handwriting. |
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Swimmy

Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:06 pm |
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About as much as you could get from knowing our astrological signs. _________________

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XORDYH

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:08 pm |
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| Churippu wrote: |
When I find my graphology book I am going to look at this thread and know every little detail about each and every one of you.
It is quite scary how much I can get out of your handwriting. |
I wonder how that holds up for someone who has suffered a permanent injury and thus writes differently than they would otherwise? |
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!=

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: the planet of leather moomins
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:40 pm |
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| People have been using graphology to screen off potential hires. I'd always prefer them to throw dice. |
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SweatPants
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:30 pm |
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| != wrote: |
| Swimmy, I would need a microscope to read this ;) |
Thats sooo tiny, I used to do that for classes that would only allow 1 page of notes, why do teachers do that? |
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!=

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: the planet of leather moomins
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:56 pm |
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| Never had any teacher doing that, maybe they want you not to take notes? I've more often than not asbtained from taking notes, chosing instead to memorize the course as it was given to me. |
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Swimmy

Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:59 pm |
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I've had lots of teachers allow a one-page cheat sheet for the final, which is partly why I do it. Few professors expect that someone will be able to take the whole semester with them. _________________
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Location: Balmer
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:21 pm |
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One of the only refreshing things about law school is that every test is completely open book, because any other way of taking a test is utterly retarded. _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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XORDYH

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:38 pm |
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| CubaLibre wrote: |
| One of the only refreshing things about law school is that every test is completely open book, because any other way of taking a test is utterly retarded. |
Every test for every course should be like this. It's the mark of a good test, if, even having the textbook available, you can still fail if you didn't bother to understand the material beforehand.
Conversely, you shouldn't be required to memorize information that is easily researchable in an everyday setting. |
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