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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:39 pm    Post subject: Unusual sushi ?    Reply with quote



Do you like sushi ? If so, what is the most unusual sushi you've ever tasted ? I'll start with my favorite: smoked salmon, avocado and cream cheese, topped with sesame seeds. It tastes great with some fresh gari (marinated ginger).
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:53 pm        Reply with quote

That is not sushi. I'm sorry to pull the elitist thing, but maki rolls, especially American ones, are no more sushi than an american taco is a taco.

My favorite sushi is Toro tuna ngiri. Or white tuna with miso sauce.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:08 am        Reply with quote

Man's got a point, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying whatever the hell is being passed off as sushi. I guess whenever I have the means to hit up some authentic japanese restaurant (as in, in Japan) I'll sample the REAL DEAL. But if you think I'm being sacrilegious now, consider that I get my "sushi" from a chinese buffet nearby.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:08 am        Reply with quote

I like shirashi, but I don't think it's very unusual.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:18 am        Reply with quote

I like my sushi much like my pizza in this great land.

With Sriracha sauce and lovingly prepared by mexicans.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:43 am        Reply with quote

Is there a possibility of authentic-ish sushi in America, though? I am just curious, because I am pretty sure there is a lot of authentic mexican food to be had if you look in the right places.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:06 am        Reply with quote

Yes, on the west coast. The population of Japanese immigrants is large enough there that there are pretty authentic restaurants.

My personal elitist slant on this issue is that sushi and other raw fish foods are fine, but they're a wee bit overemphasized considering they aren't the only great food to come out of Japan. If you do find an authentic restaurant, consider trying some of the other dishes; there's lots of excellent stuff with noodles, cooked fish, egg and so on. If you must have the raw fish with rice, try ordering it in a bowl for a change ("donburi").
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:06 am        Reply with quote

Kappuru wrote:
That is not sushi. I'm sorry to pull the elitist thing, but maki rolls, especially American ones, are no more sushi than an american taco is a taco.
Dude, anything wrapped in a tortilla is a taco like how anything between two slices of bread is a sandwich even if it ain't a rueben.

Isn't sushi all about the rice?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:10 am        Reply with quote

extrabastardformula wrote:
Kappuru wrote:
That is not sushi. I'm sorry to pull the elitist thing, but maki rolls, especially American ones, are no more sushi than an american taco is a taco.
Dude, anything wrapped in a tortilla is a taco like how anything between two slices of bread is a sandwich even if it ain't a rueben.

Isn't sushi all about the rice?


Eh, you're both right. Kappuru's thinking of the Japanese word "sushi" (which means a roughly cylindrical rice patty with a slab of raw fish, cooked fish, egg or meat on top), you're thinking of the English word "sushi" (which means raw fish, possibly with rice and other ingredients, in any shape). The meaning has changed upon importation into another language.

There are few loanwords either from English -> Japanese or Japanese -> English that have preserved their exact meaning. E.g. the Japanese katakana word manshon (from "mansion") means "apartment building". As long as you're conscious that they're two separate words despite the historical origin and similar pronunciation, there's no need for debate or confusion.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:13 am        Reply with quote

whatEVER. Is it fuckin delicious? Is it pretty damn healthy? Count me in.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:27 am        Reply with quote

Broco wrote:
Yes, on the west coast. The population of Japanese immigrants is large enough there that there are pretty authentic restaurants.

My personal elitist slant on this issue is that sushi and other raw fish foods are fine, but they're a wee bit overemphasized considering they aren't the only great food to come out of Japan. If you do find an authentic restaurant, consider trying some of the other dishes; there's lots of excellent stuff with noodles, cooked fish, egg and so on. If you must have the raw fish with rice, try ordering it in a bowl for a change ("donburi").


that's chirashi, not donburi. but yeah, it is quite good. And i'm not trying to come off as a total jag-on about this, I like spicy tuna rolls too. It's just not really sushi. Good places to get sushi abound in any major metro area, if there's a japanese language zine or whatever, look in it, the ads for restaurants will generally be pretty authentic.

It's not just elitist ; the grade of fish that most places use is terrible. When you've had a piece of tuna that melts in your mouth and doesn't even taste like the idea of 'fish taste' you had in your head, you will be converted.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:37 am        Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:46 am        Reply with quote

i'm a big fan of sea urchin myself

i've had it in both america and japan and loved it in both places
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:06 am        Reply with quote

OK, I generally thought that. There was one really good sushi place in Columbus, Ohio, of all places, but that was because the town had a pretty good sized Japanese population due to the Honda plant not too far from the city.

I once had a roommate who was the only white girl who worked at the generically named (but pretty darn wonderful) Restaurant Japan, and who also was a vegetarian, but she wanted to know what everything on the menu tasted like, so she would just bring home all sorts of stuff for me to try. It was nice.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:36 am        Reply with quote

Caterpillar rolls are basically the final evolution of California rolls. I don't care if they aren't nigiri, they're sushi in my book.

I love any place with good saba (pickled mackerel).

There's this one place that makes those ones in a fried tofu pouch, and tops them with sea urchin roe. It's really great, and I don't think I've seen it anywhere else.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:08 am        Reply with quote

I'm a big octopus fan (taco in Moonspeak). It kills me how sushi is priced here. Two pieces for $5? A whopping two rolls is $12?? Jesus christ, I remember eating out at a sushi dive because it was cheaper and more filling than McDonalds.

Sushi is faw fish over rice. Over time that included non-fish pork and veggies. Rolls allow for several tastes in one morsel without losing the single-serving simplicity behind it all. Could you imagine the hassle of making a few pieces of sushi with three different topings?

Which reminds me. All Japanese food can be eaten with chopsticks and is bite-sized. Even larger foods like okanomiyaki are sliced to strips before serving. Things that go against this are dishes or deserts that originate in China (like anpan). The "Osaka steakhouse" places that serve up stirfry with lo mein are insulting to me. Authentic Japanese cuisine is simple and mostly dishes served with rice. Usually rice, veggies and fish. Pork and beef came back in the national diet in the last 150 years.

Then again, in Japan, they see Americans doing nothing but eating hamburgers and pizza. And! To be fair, both the hamburger sandwich and american pizza are american dishes. Just like nachos, soul food, barbeque, road kill... In Japan the pizza they sell would turn your stomach, but is actually very good.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:56 am        Reply with quote

Speak for yourself Marco. I submit into evidence the ebi king pizza from pizza hut. Crab, shrimp, QPmayo. YUM, right?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:34 am        Reply with quote

Unagi maki rolls are most excellent.

Other than that, I'll go for a Toro nigiri [drenched in soy sauce if it's not really good Toro] or Salmon nigiri.

Lately I'm liking red snapper [Tai], as well.

I can't fathom the Sea Urchin
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:50 am        Reply with quote

what about the opposite end of the "weird sushi" spectrum

raw whale, live octopus, etc

has anyone ever tried to eat a living crab? that would be an intense battle.

i am a big fan of absurd rolls and stuff, but there is something manlier about eating massive hunks of raw sea-flesh. which is weird because before i had "real" sushi i always thought of it as kind of an obnoxiously dainty food.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:55 am        Reply with quote

i've had one of those fancy plates of Sashimi where it's all arranged like a colorful meat sculpture



like that, kinda. it was pretty awesome.

but technically that's not sushi now is it?!?!


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american taco


my first thought is that photo 108 once posted of a Japanese menu for American food, and the "American Taco" was a hot dog in a taco shell.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:36 pm        Reply with quote

Mr. Apol wrote:
i'm a big fan of sea urchin myself

i've had it in both america and japan and loved it in both places


Matt you said it was horrible >:(

also I love eel sushi it is so tasty. I remember when I first got my tongue pierced one of my friends took me on what he thought was a date and he took me to this "fancy" Japanese restaurant and he had gotten me eel and I could barely eat it beacuse of my tongue :( I had to eat it like a bird and hold my head up and slide it down my throat. blah.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:42 pm        Reply with quote

Kappuru wrote:
Speak for yourself Marco. I submit into evidence the ebi king pizza from pizza hut. Crab, shrimp, QPmayo. YUM, right?

If it's anything like the Doritos flavor, then YUM, indeed! The bag doesnt mention crab in the title, but I'm sure it had a bit of the flavorings.



Suck on that, Americans!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:31 pm        Reply with quote

I'm a huge fan of the flying fish roe (Tobiko? I think) with the raw quail egg on top. It's probably my favorite, although the unagi is a very close second.

I remember one of my Japanese teachers from college mentioning that, while American sushi resteraunts are usually not true to the Japanese style at all, there was actually a trend for awhile of opening American-style sushi resteraunts in Japan. No idea how true or widespread that would've been.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:19 am        Reply with quote

Churippu wrote:
Mr. Apol wrote:
i'm a big fan of sea urchin myself

i've had it in both america and japan and loved it in both places


Matt you said it was horrible >:(

also I love eel sushi it is so tasty. I remember when I first got my tongue pierced one of my friends took me on what he thought was a date and he took me to this "fancy" Japanese restaurant and he had gotten me eel and I could barely eat it beacuse of my tongue :( I had to eat it like a bird and hold my head up and slide it down my throat. blah.


i was lying

actually i DID hate it at first but the more i had it, the more i liked it. i guess its an acquired taste type thing. i adore it now though.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:27 am        Reply with quote

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/dining/23sushi.html
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:18 pm        Reply with quote

The worst roll I ever had was a passion fruit roll with pink sugar on the outside.

There's a place in Vancouver that makes a decent avocado tempura thing and a few of the other inventive rolls are decent (The Eatery).

Mostly wacky rolls aren't very good.
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we are america - we make all food better,
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:41 am        Reply with quote

a "donburi" is pretty much the only way to get a lot of Unagi in this country of America.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:56 am        Reply with quote

Oh, man, do I need me some sleep.

I read "unagi" as "usagi" and did a double take and everything.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:20 am        Reply with quote

DonMarco wrote:
Oh, man, do I need me some sleep.

I read "unagi" as "usagi" and did a double take and everything.


haha, that would be a comical mishap.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:13 pm        Reply with quote

comical! zing

man i hate buying donburi becuase its so easy to make
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:47 pm        Reply with quote

Daphaknee wrote:
man i hate buying donburi becuase its so easy to make


Yeah, the only place I can ever find unaju is at bullshit trendy places that overcharge for everything. I have a serious distaste for those places, but damn if I don't have to have some eel sometimes.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:09 pm        Reply with quote

There's a few good sushi places in Providence. Authentic-ish, especially if you go to the higher-priced ones (I recommend Tokyo on Wickenden St. if you're in the area, or Sakura, also on Wickenden. Sakura's cheaper but Tokyo's a little better).

Now I live in Japantown so I just hop to the local market and buy the chilled stuff. Damn tasty, $5 for a whole meal of it. Works for me.
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