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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:31 am        Reply with quote

Speaking of the folks and the freaks, I picked up that new 4 cd package of The Trees Community you may have heard about recently. Now, it had me pretty worried; it's totally low budget, the liner notes are chock full of errors and bad photoshopping, plus it's very very Christian (none of the disguises Current 93 wears, but out and out preachy). But the music is really amazing. They just lifted instruments and styles from all over the world and mashed them all together in praise of Jesus, and it's fantastic in a surprisingly mature psych-folk manner.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:06 am        Reply with quote

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Hey, that's a really good track. When's the album coming out?

Edit: Nevermind, March 20th. I'll be there.


Yeah dude, the whole album is like Noise Beach Boys or something. Its beautiful.



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:23 pm        Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
Wall of Beef wrote:
rabite gets whacked! wrote:
Hey, that's a really good track. When's the album coming out?

Edit: Nevermind, March 20th. I'll be there.


Yeah dude, the whole album is like Noise Beach Boys or something. Its beautiful.



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Well, I just listened to little bit of that and it sounds nothing like Panda Bear, Noise, or the Beach Boys. Does appear to maybe have a cover of "God only knows" but the clip I found was too short for it to get into it.
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It's noise Beach Boys if Brian Wilson was Japanese and grew up in the 1980s.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:47 pm        Reply with quote

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It's noise Beach Boys if Brian Wilson was Japanese and grew up in the 1980s.


Ok, there is this one track on here thats named "Fantasma" thats directly trying to sound like the beach boys, and it appears to be 55 seconds long. But everything else is J-Pop with IDM beats and stuff. Im downloading the entire album now to be more sure, but so far the only thing that remotley makes me think Beach Boys is the track thats intending to be a beach boys song.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:22 pm        Reply with quote

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Someone sometime ago was saying that Beaches & Canyons by Black Dice was better than their fallow up album Creature Comforts, well I just listened to Beaches & Canyons, and while its very good, its not better than Creature Comforts. Beaches & Canyons does have field recordings of waves slapping up against the shore however that are very very nice.

I also changed my signature to featuring the cover of the Panda Bear 12" for "Bros" vinyl, and a link to his myspace where you can hear the AMAZING "Comfy in Nautica" track.


That someone was me!

I still feel that Beaches & Canyons is better as the cohesive whole, which is something I look for in most albums.

Nice to know this next Panda Bear album won't be like his first. I enjoyed the first one, but, you know. Too watery sometimes.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:02 pm        Reply with quote

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Nice to know this next Panda Bear album won't be like his first. I enjoyed the first one, but, you know. Too watery sometimes.


Are you talking Young Prayer or his self-titled? I am assuming Young Prayer because thats the one everyone thinks is his first, me as well until I recently found out that he had another before but was only released in a tiny amount.

But yeah Young Prayer is pretty "watery". Its good, but I can't just listen to it whenever. His self-titled is much more standard indie music, not even like Animal Collective. Its not bad though.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:57 pm        Reply with quote

listening to mountain goats get lonely. john darnielle is one of the best song writers i've ever heard. i like some of his more rough and energetic albums, where this one is more subdued and was probably recorded and mixed in a studio as opposed to a portable stereo's tape player in his living room; though it fits itself nicely.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:58 am        Reply with quote

I'm listening to the new Explosions in the Sky album.
It's the first album I've got by them (after already owning stuff by Mono, Godspeed, and Silver Mt. Zion), and I like it quite a lot. Currently, I like it more than any of the Mono I have, though, it could just be because it's fresh and also hitting the right spots that I'm currently feeling.


Independent shops and Temporary Residence should have an LE double CD set for all those that are interested. Though, you might want to email TR and ask them before ordering from them. It has a remix of each song, and they are fairly good from what I've heard thus far.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:25 am        Reply with quote

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I'm listening to the new Explosions in the Sky album.


They were on Conan the other night, and fucking rocked.

It was funny though, after they played Conan did the usual band hand shake, but then said to the audience/camera, "Hey! I liked it!" Like he was really surprised he would or something.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:38 am        Reply with quote

If I was immensely, tragically bored by their first big album a couple years back, should I stay away from this one as well?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:49 am        Reply with quote

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Focus wrote:

Nice to know this next Panda Bear album won't be like his first. I enjoyed the first one, but, you know. Too watery sometimes.


Are you talking Young Prayer or his self-titled? I am assuming Young Prayer because thats the one everyone thinks is his first, me as well until I recently found out that he had another before but was only released in a tiny amount.

But yeah Young Prayer is pretty "watery". Its good, but I can't just listen to it whenever. His self-titled is much more standard indie music, not even like Animal Collective. Its not bad though.


I wasn't aware he had one before that! Either way, "standard indie music" doesn't really entice me, so I don't think I'm going out of my way to find a copy.

I'm in need of new music, though. Someone suggest halfway-downer music to me!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:02 am        Reply with quote

Bad Astronaut's first two albums.
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Joe wrote:
It's noise Beach Boys if Brian Wilson was Japanese and grew up in the 1980s.


Ok, there is this one track on here thats named "Fantasma" thats directly trying to sound like the beach boys, and it appears to be 55 seconds long. But everything else is J-Pop with IDM beats and stuff. Im downloading the entire album now to be more sure, but so far the only thing that remotley makes me think Beach Boys is the track thats intending to be a beach boys song.


It's more in spirit than sound. The kind of over-ambitious melding of influences thing. Reminds me of SMiLE a lot.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:21 am        Reply with quote

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I'm in need of new music, though. Someone suggest halfway-downer music to me!


Try Burial's self-titled release from last year (on Hyperdub recordings). It's kind of the spirit of early Tricky/Massive attack with the musical complexity of Boards of Canada or Isolee.

Either of Susanna & the Magical Orchestra's releases (Lists of Lights & Buoys or Melody Mountain) might be way more than halfway downer, but they're both beautiful.

Three of my old favorites, similar to each other, are P.G. Six's Well of Memory, Smog's Knock Knock and M. Ward's Transfiguration of Vincent. The all ride this timeless twang (Six's more misty, Ward's more dusty, Smog's more humid) that can make you feel like you're listening to some lost, warped artifact from your grandfather's attic, until you realize it's a Bowie cover.

Finally, David Sylvian's Blemish is a meditation on the end of his 20 year marriage, which catalyzed an entirely new style (and record label) for him. It also features some of Derek Bailey's last recordings, and it's also my favorite record ever.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:30 am        Reply with quote

From hearing samples, I think this David Sylvian guy is going to be high up on my To Buy list.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:41 am        Reply with quote

Just be aware that his post-blemish stuff (on the Samadhi Sound label, both solo and in his Nine Horses project) is quite different from his major label solo/Japan stuff. And in my mind, much better.

EDIT: And I forgot a big one. Karen Dalton only put out 2 albums of folk-blues-jazz covers (one of which was a secretly recorded jam session) back in the 70s, but they're both just incredible. She has the most weary, downtrodden voice I've ever heard. See if you can't find her cover of Katie Cruel, you'll see what I mean. She died homeless and addicted. Yee-haw!
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been listening to sunn o)))'s black one and hill/barr's shred earthship for the last couple of days.

shred earthship is one of a few albums that never leaves my ipod (TM).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:55 pm        Reply with quote

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been listening to sunn o)))'s black one


Saw them play essentially that entire album live last May. Its was pretty damn amazing.

chompers po pable wrote:
shred earthship is one of a few albums that never leaves my ipod (TM).


Its never left mine either, but that probably has to do with having a 30 gig Ipod. I like it, but I still think Barrs, Ocrilim - Anoint is better.

Here some it here.
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been listening to sunn o)))'s black one


Saw them play essentially that entire album live last May. Its was pretty damn amazing.


i'm jealous. did they do the vocals for bathory in a coffin?


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chompers po pable wrote:
shred earthship is one of a few albums that never leaves my ipod (TM).


Its never left mine either, but that probably has to do with having a 30 gig Ipod. I like it, but I still think Barrs, Ocrilim - Anoint is better.


yeah, i picked up anoint. i like it. i also picked up octis' ocrilim, which is good, though not as good as anoint. (i like the droney background of anoint more than the drone-rapid fire drum machine-drone background in ocrilim.)
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been listening to sunn o)))'s black one


Saw them play essentially that entire album live last May. Its was pretty damn amazing.


i'm jealous. did they do the vocals for bathory in a coffin?


Well at the time I was only really familiar with some of their older stuff, and their general sound. I was way more into Boris (who opened). So I did not know exactly what they played, but talking to more informed fans after the show they were saying that they had only played songs off of Black One and one or two from Altar. The only vocals I can remember was when Atsuo (boris drummer) climbed over all the theater seats and was screaming for a while.
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Atsuo (boris drummer) climbed over all the theater seats and was screaming for a while.


awesome.
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Atsuo (boris drummer) climbed over all the theater seats and was screaming for a while.


awesome.


Yeah they played at this modern Art Museums performance theater, so it was all theater style seating. He was in a giant black cloak (as well was Sunn and the rest of Boris, for the Sunn set at least) and instead of going up the aisle, he just walked over people. Which is pretty amazing since there was so much fog in the entire room that you could really only see things that were either 15 feet in the air, and about 2 feet infront of your face.
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They were on Conan the other night, and fucking rocked.

It was funny though, after they played Conan did the usual band hand shake, but then said to the audience/camera, "Hey! I liked it!" Like he was really surprised he would or something.


Yeah, I recorded the episode and have watched it maybe three times (showing it to people, who also enjoyed it).

I kinda thought that was funny that Conan said that. It actually reminded me of a time recently when he had a really bad comedian doing standup, and when he was done, could only really say 'Pretty funny stuff,' trying his best not to hurt the guy's feelings, but couldn't lie either.


rabite gets whacked! wrote:
If I was immensely, tragically bored by their first big album a couple years back, should I stay away from this one as well?


I've only heard some live mp3s of theirs, as well as some of their Friday Night Lights stuff. This is way better. I'm currently enjoying it more than anything else that's similar (like Mono)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:57 am        Reply with quote

In other Animal Collective member side project news, Avey Tare and his wife Kria Brekkan (from mum) have a record coming out. It has leaked, and all the songs are in reverse, and some songs are sped up.

They have performed I believe all of these songs live, and they are not in reverse. Everyone assumed it was some sort of trick for all those that download the album, but now Avey Tare has come out and said "This is how the album is intended. We arn't bummed, hope you arn't." He also refered to making the decision in December after seeing David Lynchs "Inland Empire"

People are really upset about it because they have been listening to the bootlegs and were expecting studio versions, but get studio versions with some wacky chipmunk vocals, and are in reverse. One song has all the lyrics removed.

Its still very possible that its all a hoax, but it has not prevented people from going in and correcting all the reverse/sped up audio. So both versions are out there.

I have only heard the version that Avey Tare says is official, and none of the bootlegs. So I only know that stuff, and personally I think its pretty rad. Should be interesting to see how this all turns out. Lots of AC fans are pissed.
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Fans of Comets on Fire, Lightning Bolt, Black Dice, Animal Collective, and things within those realms should check out: Racoo-oo-oon.

Sort of a blend of a lot of things from the bands listed above, I have been enjoying their album Cave of Spirits Forever. Check out some of their songs at their audio page.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:29 am        Reply with quote

So rather than get behind on my yearly compiling like I do every december, I've decided to sort through music incrementally this year.

So here's some stuff I've enjoyed from the first two months of 2007. And I'd add Nadja's Thamogenesis to that mix also, if it weren't a single hour plus track.
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I just bought a Turtle Beach USB sound card for my laptop. $26 from Amazon, free shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/TURTLE-BEACH-Audio-Advantage-Micro/dp/B0002ICGDY/

Anybody who is stuck using a laptop or computer with shitty, hissing sound chip should look into this. It plugged in and recognized on XP with no drivers, is capable of 24bit output, and has some built-in amplification.

One important warning: It is made for USB 2.0

If you use USB 1.0 then it will pop and click and so forth. But USB 2.0 has given me exceptionally clean audio with no problems at all.

I'm an audio snob; high bit-rate encoding, 24bit decoding, 64bit mastering filter. All of my stuff comes together to breathe more life into music than it'd have normally, so your mileage may vary -- but for me, my laptop is finally playing music that gives me goosebumps. This Turtle Beach USB bastard is exactly what I needed.

If you're on a desktop system with a beefy late-era Sound Blaster or the like, then this probably isn't worth your trouble. But if you've got a laptop which was made with the cheapest sound chip available, and have wondered how to make it better, this is the solution.
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Interested in this product Psiga.
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I'm thinking it's about time to join head-fi forum and decide on some new headphones. Really grown accustomed to the way that the Koss KSC-75 sounds, and would like an upgrade on that. Would also prefer to avoid headbands or plugs, so I'm looking at clip-ons.

Might be getting a free pair of Bang & Olufsen A8 headphones though I've read that they're merely Phillips phones with B&O styling. Kinda interested in things from Audio-Technica. ATH-EM9? Maybe ATH-EC700?

I'm really drawn to the light clip-ons with no headband, since I've got the hair thing going on. But are $140 Audio-Technica headphones really $125 better than $15 KSC-75s?
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WHAT IS SPINNIN ON MY RECORD PLAYER:
I'm breaking out a bunch of wildly varied older songs to tweak my Ozone 3 settings for the new soundcard. From Mastodon to Snow Patrol, Rolling Stones to BT, Yoko Kanno to Sepultura. Korean idol pop, Lumines, one of Glitch's tracks that she shared with us.

Oh, and now I'm listening to some of the stuff that rabite put up. Thanks for that. Are any of your previous compilations still floating around? You clearly listen to many kinds of music that I'd be afraid to sort through the hard way in order to find some of the gems that you found.
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I'm thinking it's about time to join head-fi forum and decide on some new headphones. Really grown accustomed to the way that the Koss KSC-75 sounds, and would like an upgrade on that. Would also prefer to avoid headbands or plugs, so I'm looking at clip-ons.

Might be getting a free pair of Bang & Olufsen A8 headphones though I've read that they're merely Phillips phones with B&O styling. Kinda interested in things from Audio-Technica. ATH-EM9? Maybe ATH-EC700?

I'm really drawn to the light clip-ons with no headband, since I've got the hair thing going on. But are $140 Audio-Technica headphones really $125 better than $15 KSC-75s?


Psiga, I'm told that the Shure E2C in-ear phones are absolutely stellar and are $99. I've read reviewers who compared them to the Grado SR60s!
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Man psiga, why don't you just get some cans? Seriously, cans are just great! And there's a lot better selection in terms of high end products.
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Lesse. I've been revisiting my lovely post-rock recently, in the form of Dirty Three, Do Make Say Think, and Tristeza.

And, realizing I'd been neglecting the IDM section of my collection, put that genre on 'shuffle' on my ipod. Holy crap, I didn't even realize I had some of this stuff! I'll have to go dredge up the names later.

Otherwise, I've been laying low ever since I got a letter from my ISP for a-downloading too much :(. I'll get back into it in a little while.
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Joe wrote:
psiga wrote:
I'm thinking it's about time to join head-fi forum and decide on some new headphones. Really grown accustomed to the way that the Koss KSC-75 sounds, and would like an upgrade on that. Would also prefer to avoid headbands or plugs, so I'm looking at clip-ons.

Might be getting a free pair of Bang & Olufsen A8 headphones though I've read that they're merely Phillips phones with B&O styling. Kinda interested in things from Audio-Technica. ATH-EM9? Maybe ATH-EC700?

I'm really drawn to the light clip-ons with no headband, since I've got the hair thing going on. But are $140 Audio-Technica headphones really $125 better than $15 KSC-75s?


Psiga, I'm told that the Shure E2C in-ear phones are absolutely stellar and are $99. I've read reviewers who compared them to the Grado SR60s!


They are (well, I've got the E3Cs), except I still haven't found a method of getting them to stay locked into my ears. Which means they're constantly popping out, and constant reinsertion really make them hurt after an hour or so. But your ears differ from mine! So you may have no problem, but it is kind of a gamble.

Better than the Grados, too, which are lovely at the top end but weak on the bottom, and just about as uncomfortable. My Shures offer such a nice, accurate sound throughout the spectrum.

But again, due to comfort, I rarely wear either of those, just using some Sony MDR-EX71s outside and Senn HD590s in the house. Now those are some comfy cans; I've worn them 8 hours at a stretch with no discomfort at all.
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I find my Grados rather wonderful, and I think their bass response is the best thing about them. Maybe yours are broken?

I'm told you can buy different kinds of tips for those Shure phones, to make them easier to keep into your ear.
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I am impressed. So far this is the most drama free headphone discussion on IC/SB yet!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:57 pm        Reply with quote

Oh, make no mistake, I really love my Grados (SR125s), and the bass is fine, just not up to the bar set by the treble. If they were as comfortable as my Senns they'd definitely be my primary use cans, cause I think they present a more interesting sound than the workhorse representation of the HD590s.

The other thing about Shures (and Etys, too) though, is that when they're isolating they're severely isolating, and I'd never consider them for casual or moving use. They're great alone in a room, or on an airplane, or sitting and reading in the park, but they make your effectively deaf to the outside world and I wouldn't want that while walking down the street, and my girlfriend doesn't appreciate having to wave her arms and stamp her feet to get my attention.

I should look into different Shure tips; none of the various ones that came with the phones have helped me. I have weird ears, I think, and ear wax problems. I really need to do some research into dewaxification, seriously.
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Plugs tend to have really nice range and really small soundstage. I've heard that even the best canalphones have small soundstages compared to fuller headphones.

I once got some $100 canalphones which had bass that sounded like thunder. Didn't FEEL like thunder, but it was probably the best reproduction of bass I'd ever heard from a personal unit of anything. It fucked up the position and size of everything totally, though. Sad.

Tried some Senn HD595s once. Either they were broken or shit. Just not acceptable.

Been considering the Grado SR125s, I'll admit! If I got regular cans, I'd probably jump on those.

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Check out this video for the song "Atlas" by the band Battles. The song rips, and the video is pretty slick.

Battles is a group composed of John Stanier (ex-Helmet/Tomahwak drummer), Ian Williams (ex-Don Caballero guitarist) , Dave Konopka (ex-Lynx guitarist), and Tyondai Braxton (son of Avantgarde Jazz musician Anthony Braxton).
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