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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:28 pm        Reply with quote

From the videos I've seen, Morrigan's AA/DP assist seems to have a lot of horizontal range on it, so I think that's worth noting. Ammy's Cold Star (the projectile) seems to be good for what the kids call "lockdown", so maybe not "keepaway", you can still do something else/go somewhere while they're in blockstun.


Gonna play this tonight~
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:14 pm        Reply with quote

Morrigan's Shadow Blade is easily going to be her best assist. The invincibility seems to be quite good for AAA, it covers a decent area, and she doesn't hang around in the air forever begging to be blasted on whiff. Not MvC2 Cyclops Gene Splice-level good, but then again, I don't think any Shoryuken-style AAA in all of Marvel 3 will be that good again.

Her meter-building kiss might be workable on strong zoning teams; Tom Cannon seemed to be able to cover her well enough in the GameSpot tournament. However, that same match also demonstrated that as the game evolves, relying on keepout to cover Morrigan meter spam will probably prove to be a weaker strategy than allowing her to be AAA and getting meter AND precious damage from using her to counterpoke people. Morrigan's not that hard to protect, but the nerf to meter build from keepaway patterns means that even uninterrupted Morrigan spam won't build meter very fast relative to more aggressive strategies. More importantly, it means your point is under a lot more pressure to defend Morrigan's assist, rather than the typical assist synergy of mutual protection of each other's blind spots and recovery. This means your point has to take more risks and take more damage (even if it's just chip) to make sure their sexy little meal ticket doesn't get her face blown off by laser beams.

Soul Fist will probably suck as always; 1-hit non-beam projectile assist is not a very strong option in Versus games. Barely any hitstun to extend combos, barely any blockstun to extend pressure, and its lower travel speed (and therefore smaller area of space control) makes it a lot less useful as a full-screen poke.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:07 pm        Reply with quote

BREAKING NEWS: Dante STILL hypest character in all of MvC3. I can say this having just played as him with my own two hands.

Slash, shoot, stab, teleport, double jump, air dash, jump cancel, shoot missiles, play guitar, you can do whatever the fuck you want with Dante on your team. This guy's gonna be ubiquitous not because he's scrubby (he isn't...he can be played decently at the awkward-poking and B C Million Dollar level, but he's not gonna instagib anybody), but because he's got a tool for almost EVERY situation. Pizza party never ends.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:44 pm        Reply with quote

Team GET THE FUCK OUT switched to Deadpool (AA guns) / Dante (Jam / Capcom clone) / Sentinel (Bomb Drones).

Shit. Is. SO. Cash.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:30 am        Reply with quote

I played this game for 40 minutes on a worn out Best Buy 360 pad and I'm in love.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:31 am        Reply with quote

Wait, I didn't know they had this in Melty Blood ReAct:


So incredibly lazy! Executioner Ciel only has an intro ripped from the first half of her super, and only two attacks, both of which are from her supers. The other animation she has is a forward walk that they play backwards for her back walk. Everything else is super armored so as to give the impression of strength when it's just no animation at all. Man, amazing.

Anyway, a preview of Powered Ciel right there, I guess.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:34 am        Reply with quote

Yeah, she was a boss-only character. I had forgotten about it because it was such a weak gimmick, I guess.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:03 am        Reply with quote

Do we love team spooky?

Do we love live MvC3?

Yes we do.

http://www.justin.tv/teamsp00ky
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:07 am        Reply with quote

who needs a stream when you could just be playing the game itself
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:20 am        Reply with quote

buy me a modded xbox then asshole
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:00 am        Reply with quote

nothingxs wrote:
who needs a stream when you could just be playing the game itself


Not all of us can just break street date like it's nobodies business.

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There is no team that I will play that won't have Arthur on it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:25 am        Reply with quote

best shit:

caught someone calling assist with sentinel, hit both his chars with crouch M, S, air M, air H, air S, land L rocket punch xx hyper sentinel force xx S, air M, air H, air S, land L rocket punch xx hyper sentinel force xx xfactor xx hyper sentinel force. dead remaining characters

shit is so cash
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:58 am        Reply with quote

Lasakon wrote:
There is no team that I will play that won't have Dante on it.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:00 am        Reply with quote

nothingxs wrote:
best shit:

caught someone calling assist with sentinel, hit both his chars with crouch M, S, air M, air H, air S, land L rocket punch xx hyper sentinel force xx S, air M, air H, air S, land L rocket punch xx hyper sentinel force xx xfactor xx hyper sentinel force. dead remaining characters

shit is so cash


The damage in this game is looking ridiculous


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:23 pm        Reply with quote

I'm so hyped for MvC 3, I'm even thinking about not importing the NTSC version (for like 35 bucks, yeah, that's cheap!) and just import the PAL version for like 45 bucks.

Oh, and I know it's ScrewAttack, but they aren't talking in that video (thank god!). They show some of the speeches the characters have with each other before a battle.

http://screwattack.com/videos/MvC3-Smack-Talkin-Teams

There are indeed some good ones.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:18 pm        Reply with quote

nothingxs wrote:
best shit:

caught someone calling assist with sentinel, hit both his chars with crouch M, S, air M, air H, air S, land L rocket punch xx hyper sentinel force xx S, air M, air H, air S, land L rocket punch xx hyper sentinel force xx xfactor xx hyper sentinel force. dead remaining characters

shit is so cash


this is where i go, "yo, that shit is the truth"

sentinel is so. good. maybe he's just beginner friendly, but seeing that all of us were on level playing ground, i was trashing the place with him.

also, best defensive assist in the game: haggar's lariat.


everyone was calling my team M.O.D.O.T. (Massive Organisms Designed Only for Trolling): sentinel (bomb drones) / MODOK (balloon bomb) / haggar (lariat) or hulk (AA gamma wave or crush or what it was called)

can't wait to get into training mode.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:04 pm        Reply with quote

Sent is going to inspire rage on XBL like no Capcom character before him...INCLUDING MvC2 Sentinel.

My team as of two days into the game is Chun(legs)/Sent(bombs)/Dante(guitar). I haven't once entered training mode yet but I already love Chun-Li. Even when I mash air dash (f + A+B) too fast in the air and accidentally get Lightning Legs, I win. Lightning Legs in MvC3 is absolutely fucking retarded, you can combo off that shit by ACCIDENT. Plus the bitch is fast like Q-Bee. Knock down, call drones, fly over, make delicious Lightning Legs sandwich. And when she dies, I have Sent and Dante.

MODOK was surprisingly fun when I gave him a brief try. So great to spam beams and pushblock people into Analyze Cube for the chip kill. Too bad I'd have to come up with a whole new team to really buff out his greatness (although probably he'd go well with Sentinel).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:24 pm        Reply with quote

Team Frends [sic]: MODOK, Ameterasu, Super Skrull and I love it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:25 pm        Reply with quote

Ben: I've also been playing Chun Dante Sent. Switch out bombs for drones. You will be very happy you did.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:40 pm        Reply with quote

Yeah watching videos of Dante pressure with drones, I realize I undersold new drones. They're not old drones but they're good in their own way, and probably better for what I want to do (SANDWICHES).

Also, get out of my mind.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:01 pm        Reply with quote

Apparently Tony Stark hits on Tron for his intro line against her.

Dude!

I'm sure he says it to all the ladies, but c'mon, son.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:00 pm        Reply with quote

Trish appears to do more or less the same thing to anything with a dick.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:04 pm        Reply with quote

The VA Director fucked up on the Unity stream last night and said Frank West will be back and one of the Marvel dudes blurted out Psylocke. Oh Capcom, your PR Gaffes are spreading. SNK must have been contagious.

Also Capcom confirmed for having great taste in secret guests and bringing in Tony Starks to rock the bells.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:21 pm        Reply with quote

Good ol' Ghost. That man should have gotten a Nobel Prize for his work on Cuban Linx I.

Pretty sure by this point at least 50% of Capcom's "gaffes" are intentional marketing ploys. They probably started working this stuff into their strategy ever since the SSF4 leak list.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:15 am        Reply with quote

BotageL wrote:
Apparently Tony Stark hits on Tron for his intro line against her.

Dude!

I'm sure he says it to all the ladies, but c'mon, son.



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:42 am        Reply with quote

Speaking of lightning legs...



People claim you can do this anywhere on the screen for a wall carry. Confirm?
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I love the fact that they made Sent still good enough to wind up scrubs, but he's beatable if you have good strats or you are a good player.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:46 pm        Reply with quote

Online Marn dropping combos.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:08 pm        Reply with quote

I guess he didn't use training mode's online lag simulator
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:23 pm        Reply with quote

RobotRocker wrote:
I love the fact that they made Sent still good enough to wind up scrubs, but he's beatable if you have good strats or you are a good player.

This uh, reads like a meaningless statement to me

Like, how is that any different from any other strong character in any fighting game ever?

I guess I'm just mildly annoyed at how many people are attempting to pass judgement on this game when it's not even officially out yet.

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@JWonggg: If you want to win in MVC3, just learn how to play sentinel in 1 minute and your skills will improve dramatically... Time to go back to MVC2
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:51 pm        Reply with quote

So Sentinel is the new Vanilla Sagat? I approve of this.

Wonder if this will also have the shelf life TvC did out in the tourney scene, in this case? Wish Justin would have said it was trash when Capcom invited him to all those beta play locations. This gives Midway all the more reason to sweep in and blow us away with new Mortal Kombat.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:04 pm        Reply with quote

TvC didn't have shelf life because it was on the wii and who the fuck are these characters, anyway? Among other reasons. It was still a great game. I don't think fighting game players know what they want. They wanted Sentinel, now they don't want Sentinel. They wanted big damage, now they don't want big damage. Earlier this week people were freaking out that Thor was going to be 100%'ing people all day. Give it some time.

These streams from yesterday featuring the guy who wrote the MVC3 guide have some of the best play I've seen of the game so far
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:50 pm        Reply with quote

RobotRocker wrote:
The VA Director fucked up on the Unity stream last night and said Frank West will be back and one of the Marvel dudes blurted out Psylocke. Oh Capcom, your PR Gaffes are spreading. SNK must have been contagious.

Also Capcom confirmed for having great taste in secret guests and bringing in Tony Starks to rock the bells.


"PR Gaffes"

When you have nonstop PR gaffes, it's actually known as a hype-building machine.

Also, the guy who made the guide is none other than SRK's own amazing Viet, Buktooth. Guy is awesome.

JESUS I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY THE SHIT OUT OF THIS AT HOME
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:43 am        Reply with quote

BREAKING NEWS: Sentinel STILL bullshit. I'm doing Iron Man-A/Sent-A/Dante-A right now and I racked up a 5-win streak against people who could actually finish combos largely by virtue of having Sent on my team.

On the plus side, I almost finished the Marn combo today. Just missed the super after the air qcf+H. Just a couple more days until I get training mode...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:58 am        Reply with quote

People are getting their hopes up for US AH3.The reasons being the drawings, which are Eko's attack (scroll down to the special move "I'm Drawing!"). That combined with the green crayon and childlike writing, anyway. Fingers crossed.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:18 am        Reply with quote

Yes, there's going to be a US version of Arcana. There's no teasing going on, we fucking know that shit. Aksys is the US arm of Arc System Works, and their EU cousin Zen United has already announced it. Maybe once the US release happens and the Marvel hype dies down just a bit we can actually get some AH stuff going.
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Going to a launch tournament! Free prizes for the first 200 in line!

Bringing Yomi and lunch!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:34 am        Reply with quote

I miss Jin Saotome

not that i was any good at the game, i just liked his animations and uh... style?
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haze wrote:
I miss Jin Saotome

not that i was any good at the game, i just liked his animations and uh... style?


I too miss his towel-drying taunts and kitana-from-nowhere end poses. It's pretty surprising he made the Capcom lineup at all, considering how Cyberbots wasn't really that popular to begin with, and is never mentioned in the context of Capcom's fighters in general.

Captain Commando needs more push as the 'estranged' Capcom mascot, and his FUCKING TEAM (well, that's how I always heard his super announced anyways).

The Team Kaos streams are of good quality (viewing-wise) if one-sided (in terms of ability) and repetitive (same teams). I think I'm at the stage where just watching others play isn't satisfying enough for me, and Friday's a long way away yet it seems.
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