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Shapermc
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 Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:54 pm |
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| Eric-Jon Rössel Waugh wrote: |
| I mean. I don't know what the hell that says. I'm sure I spot irony, however! |
I asked Zach from Atlus in our interview and he said he knew it was going on but the tech locked all that stuff and didn't care enough to change it.
| Maztorre wrote: |
| Steam, the Nintendo VC and I believe Playstation Network all record your purchases so you can restore your content to a new HDD or other device. |
I don't know about steam or ps-net, but the VC is only tied directly to your console. ONLY. If your Wii breaks you have to send it back to Nintendo for them to fix it and restore your VC games. So when warranties start running out and people have 20+ games on the Wii they are going to have to send off their hardware to get it fixed waiting up to 8 weeks to get things back. This is really stupid, and really upsets me. My damn Wii is tied to my nintendo.com account, don't dick me around Nintendo. Microsoft is doing a very good job with things on XBL, but unfortunately (not that I really care personally) if you download some of their "free" music videos and trailers they will disappear from XBL later on.
Anyways, I have a 400+ dvd collection and a 1080p TV. I have watched a few things in HD on it, and while I do notice a difference it's not worth the price of either the player, media, or picking sides in a format war. Just get a good upscaling DVD player: good dvd's which are properly upscaled look very good.
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Shapermc
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:39 pm |
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| SuperWes wrote: |
| This isn't a Neo-geo or the laserdisc. Backwards compatibility ensures that it won't be. Eventually people will be forced to upgrade even if they're really not interested. |
I hear that laserdisc players also played CDs. Those were totally backwards compatable.
Also, I don't think that you understand the laserdisc properly. Laserdisc was competing at one time with VHS tapes as the viable format. It wasn't an upgrade. Laserdisc was just as standalone and non-BC as either Bata-max or VHS. The laserdisc (higher digital quality that anyone could take advantage of but less than 1% of the population decided to) was in competition with the current formats of the time which were both of lower quality (DVD is lower than HD-ray much like VHS was to LD) and recordable (DVDs are a fairly saturated recordable market now). The comparisons between HD-ray and LD are much more apt than people are willing to give admit.
That said, referencing what Wes linked above (comparison shots between up scaled DVD and HDdvds) if anyone honestly believes that each movie is worth a $10+ entry fee and $400-$1000 worth of early adopter hardware let me know. As gamers we have the benefit of being able to cheaply test these formats, but if past generations of videogame hardware is any indication anyone who knows what the score is won’t use their console as a movie player.
Also, as eric-jon said before, a lot of this has to do with paused images. If this was all based on paused images I would be upgrading to HDdvd instantly. If this all was based on dvd players only having composite (red-white-yellow) output only, I would be upgrading instantly. If the audio was limited to mono or stereo only I would be upgrading. DVD players are capable of outputting in 5.1 digital surround with hdmi and other digital outputs. The image can be upscaled through technology to 1080p which will look exceptionally crisp and smooth in motion. After going to the theatre last Friday for the first time in a long time I realized that my good DVDs look better on my TV than the film did in the theatre. I’m also wondering how much more clear older films can get because the level of blemishes in those films can only go so low. So what this means is that out of a good 100 years of film, only about a third of it will be able to take any advantage of these items. If in five years all this stuff is the price of DVDs now and there’s no format war going on I may switch over to HD.
Having said this, I should mention that have a huge collection of DVDs. I would be someone who receives a lot of benefit from upgrading as I also have a 62” 1080p TV. You know what though? In motion out of a good upscaling DVD player, dvds are of comparable quality to HD-ray, and no where near worth dropping as a format yet.
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Shapermc
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Shapermc
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:27 pm |
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| Mister Toups wrote: |
| Actually I was watching The Fifth Element in 1080p at an AV store the other day and it was so detailed that you could see all sorts of flaws and specks in the original film reel. |
Welcome to the future! The more detail you can see the more imperfections you can see.
That aside, I just emailed Criterion, so I'll let every one know what they say.
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Shapermc
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:59 pm |
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| Mr. Mechanical wrote: |
| Perhaps. My folks are pretty far from rich but they have the tv. Then again, they aren't exactly voicing any major desires for a new HD player. |
How long have they had that TV? You know that HDtv's have been around for like 7 years at least now right? It's not like they're jumping on the early bandwagon here.
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