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Toptube
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:57 pm        Reply with quote

Sushi K wrote:
Toptube wrote:
internisus wrote:
internisus wrote:
Another reviewer said:

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you need 26A load capability on your +12V rail


Looks like it's 16A:

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Do you think this is reliable information? Is it likely that this PSU can't handle the 9600?


it has dual 12v rails. its a new standard for ATX 2.0. add the amperage for both. but yeah, modern systems need atleast 25A, otherwise they may not even post.


Is one rail for the MoBo and the other for peripherals?


Yeah I don't know exactly how it splits things up, but yeah, it splits things up.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:57 pm        Reply with quote

Kappuru wrote:
That gaming mouse is actually worth it though. Cubalibre, shades of Benoitren in this post.

Savage burn!

I dunno dude. It is just a mouse!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:23 pm        Reply with quote

internisus wrote:
I need somebody to tell me why there are so many different versions of the same video card (Geforce 9600GT) and pick the one I should buy from this list, please.

X-QPACK2 with 500W PSU -- $90
ASUS P5K-VM LGA 775 Intel G33 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard -- $110
Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 Conroe 2.33GHz 4M shared L2 Cache -- $170
Geforce 9600GT video card -- ~$175 (haven't picked which one yet)
Seagate Barracuda 500MB hard drive -- $120
Samsung DVD-RW drive -- $30
Corsair 2x1MB DDR2 RAM -- $26.50 (after rebate)
Turtle Beach RIVIERA sound card -- $30
Grado SR60 headphones -- $50 after shipping
LG L246WP 24" LCD -- $295 after tax (if I can find it at Circuit City)
Logitech keyboard -- $27
Logitech G5 mouse -- $50

Total -- $1173.50 (plus shipping on some items)




That didn't work right. I'm not sure I can live with spending more than $1000 on this. Well, that was the ideal version; now to make cuts.


SFF cases cost extra for no reason other than that they can. you could save $40-$50 by getting a standard sized coolermaster case like the one in that article I linked on page 1.

also keep in mind that when people usually talk about being able to build a computer for only X amount of money, they aren't including speakers, monitor, and peripherals into the mix. If you want to keep in that $800 range, something is gonna have to give.

*oh, ok so you can live with $1000? swap the case (-$50) get a cheaper $25 or less mouse (-$25) and get a $10 keyboard (-$17)

then maybe live with a smaller hardrive.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:26 pm        Reply with quote

Toptube wrote:
SFF cases cost extra for no reason other than that they can. you could save $40-$50 by getting a standard sized coolermaster case like the one in that article I linked on page 1.

also keep in mind that when people usually talk about being able to build a computer for only X amount of money, they aren't including speakers, monitor, and peripherals into the mix. If you want to keep in that $800 range, something is gonna have to give.

*oh, ok so you can live with $1000? swap the case (-$50) get a cheaper $25 or less mouse (-$25) and get a $10 keyboard (-$17)

then maybe live with a smaller hardrive.


Well, why? Yeah, I could do that, but if I swap the case I'll need to buy a case and a power unit, and I doubt that will bring me to an equal total cost. What problem would I be solving by swapping for a regular-sized case, exactly?

I'm going to purchase everything in about eight hours, so I really, really need to know: Do I have a power problem here? Is that 500W PSU going to flake out on the C2D or the 9600 Superclock? If I don't overclock? If I do?

Also, the 320 GB is the smaller hard drive. I'd prefer to take the 500 GB. I really don't want to compromise any further on the hard drive. I'm not being crazy; I'm a pack-rat and a media fiend, and I'll put it to very good use.

In addition to all this stuff, I'm going to need to spend a little more for some sort of cushion and for a bean-bag-bottom-keyboard-tray-top thing. And I haven't found them yet, so I don't know what they will cost.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:48 pm        Reply with quote

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I'm going to purchase everything in about eight hours, so I really, really need to know: Do I have a power problem here? Is that 500W PSU going to flake out on the C2D or the 9600 Superclock? If I don't overclock? If I do?


Toptube, I went and read what you had to say about the Qpack PSU in the older thread; generally, it sounds like, if my power is insufficient somehow, I'll notice it, but I have no clue what that will be like. If this is a case of performance kind of stuttering oddly in games while I'm overclocking, in which case I could be like "hey my PSU is not doing the job so let's stop overclocking", then I think I'm fine trying out the stock PSU and just being a little more wary.

But if we're talking about a possibility that one or more components could be damaged due to insufficient power in the face of my relentless demand or that the computer will start shutting itself off or that the computer will shut off three seconds after starting to boot or that the computer just won't fucking work from the start, then I obviously don't want to make this buy.

I just need to understand what kind of a risk I am taking by sticking with the Qpack's stock PSU. I totally don't care if, in three months, I start seeing a need to buy a better and totally bitchin' PSU to replace the stock. I just fucking want to be happy for the next three months. I'll take four if ya got em.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:21 am        Reply with quote

I just found this monitor, which seems like a slightly better version of the one I was about to buy. The only differences I notice are 800:1 vs. 700:1 contrast ratio and built-in speakers. This new contender has a silver frame and is worth $10 more, but the savings counter that and offer it for the exact same price. I don't care about or even want built-in speakers, and a silver frame is less preferable to black. Should I stick with the original or get this one instead?

I guess the most important question is whether the higher contrast ratio is better and worth putting up with a silver border.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:25 am        Reply with quote

internisus wrote:
internisus wrote:
I'm going to purchase everything in about eight hours, so I really, really need to know: Do I have a power problem here? Is that 500W PSU going to flake out on the C2D or the 9600 Superclock? If I don't overclock? If I do?


Toptube, I went and read what you had to say about the Qpack PSU in the older thread; generally, it sounds like, if my power is insufficient somehow, I'll notice it, but I have no clue what that will be like. If this is a case of performance kind of stuttering oddly in games while I'm overclocking, in which case I could be like "hey my PSU is not doing the job so let's stop overclocking", then I think I'm fine trying out the stock PSU and just being a little more wary.

But if we're talking about a possibility that one or more components could be damaged due to insufficient power in the face of my relentless demand or that the computer will start shutting itself off or that the computer will shut off three seconds after starting to boot or that the computer just won't fucking work from the start, then I obviously don't want to make this buy.

I just need to understand what kind of a risk I am taking by sticking with the Qpack's stock PSU. I totally don't care if, in three months, I start seeing a need to buy a better and totally bitchin' PSU to replace the stock. I just fucking want to be happy for the next three months. I'll take four if ya got em.


You aren't really taking any risks. but if you get an especially bad PSU, then your computer is not going to run at full speed. Potentially it could be so bad that some programs won't even work correctly. I don't think it will be that bad though---but it may...


do this:

build up the computer. If it turns on, great!

Then, benchmark it with a few games that generally appear in videocard reviews to see if its performing like it should (CoD4 is good choice, 3dmark, Oblivion, etc.)

*your system may not be exactly like the systems used for benchmarking, so keep that in mind. but, there are a ton of 9600 reviews out there right now, so they are easy to find (guru3d, firingsquad, hardocp, hardwarezone...)

*3dmark has a database so you can look up systems with exactly the same core specs are yours and get some pretty accurate comparison numbers.

you could also do some application type benchmarks like how long does it take to unzip a 1 gig file, etc.

and regarding saving money with cases: there are plenty of cases out there with basically free power supplies in them that aren't going to be any worse than the one that comes with the Q-pack. Its your choice. I have a Q-pack, I ate the price premium because I enjoy having a small case. Its cool, quiet, light, and rad.

If you do get the Q-pack, I would highly suggest grabbing that LG burner that I linked, unless the one you already have picked out is a shorter drive as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:32 am        Reply with quote

Toptube wrote:
If you do get the Q-pack, I would highly suggest grabbing that LG burner that I linked, unless the one you already have picked out is a shorter drive as well.


You mean the LG GSA-H62NK? I looked it up on NewEgg and decided it was my first choice (most people seem to think that all these optical drives are virtually interchangeable these days, so I went with your preference), but it's sold out. So I found a different one that seems well-liked.

What constitutes a "shorter" drive? They both say 5.25" for "form factor" in specs.

It's odd; you seemed to feel that the Qpack stock PSU was more reliable when you wrote in the older thread:

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also, be weary of the power supply that the Q-pack comes with. its not the shittiest power supply, but its not top quality either. since you are not overclocking, it should be fine. but if you feel like your system isn't running as well as it should (use some benchmarks and compare to the internet), that power supply is the first thing I'd look at.


Well, maybe not more reliable, but you just sound much more full of warning now.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:13 am        Reply with quote

a shorter drive means physically, from front to back, it is shorter. check the dimensions for the drive. If newegg doesn't list them, the manufacturer's site will, which newegg links directly to.

I'm probably being more aggressive regarding using a cheap no name power supply because recently I was burned by a not so cheap semi-no name power supply. I also answered a question that I have been wondering for a long fucking time:

If I have one of the most silent CPU coolers on the market and one of the most silent GPU coolers, then why the hell is my computer still pretty loud?

power supply was not damn expensive and made by one of the probably 3 really truly good brands for power supplies. So for the first time ever, I did it.

My computer is now comparable to my PS3 regarding noise. Its never as quiet as the quietest my PS3 can be, but it doesn't get any louder than the loudest my PS3 can be.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:21 am        Reply with quote

Toptube wrote:
a shorter drive means physically, from front to back, it is shorter. check the dimensions for the drive. If newegg doesn't list them, the manufacturer's site will, which newegg links directly to.


The dimensions I found are:

Samsung (the one I'm buying) -- 1.65" Height x 5.83" Width x 6.69" Depth
LG (the one that's out of stock) -- 1.63" Height x 5.75" Width x 6.5" Depth

It's not quite as small, but it's very close, so I'm just going to go with it.

I'm loading up my shopping cart now. The Acer I was going to buy switched to free shipping shortly after I found that silver-border one with the higher contrast ratio, so I'm going to keep the original choice.

And I'm sticking with the Qpack's stock PSU for now; next check I get in, maybe I'll buy that 500W Antec earthwatt right off. And I probably won't get into overclocking so soon as that. It won't be a problem to swap the PSU out, will it? I'll have to check the dimensions first, of course.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:50 am        Reply with quote

oh man that is a lot of tax =(

Is it pretty easy to find RAM at local stores? I might wait until next week to buy that.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:38 pm        Reply with quote

Dunno if you're willing to dick around with rebates, but: http://www.techbargains.com/tellafriend2.cfm/114773
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:46 pm        Reply with quote

I was going to get this for $26.50 after rebate, but I literally don't have enough money to buy everything right now. I'll just have to buy RAM at a store next week when I get my next check; I won't want to wait for it to ship once I've received all these other parts. The RAM is the only thing I'm leaving off; I figure it will be easy to come by.
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Okay, that's it. It's done. I bought everything I need except the RAM. Now to browse Steam and think about game prices.

Thank you all very much for your help! I'll be sure to use this thread to talk about post-op matters such as "wow this computer chip is really neat" or "zomg I can't believe how amazing it is to browse the web in widescreen." And possibly "I can't figure out how to build the computer help =(" but we'll see.

I'm kind of depressed now. It's the guilt of spending money.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:07 pm        Reply with quote

Oh, awesome, Bioshock finally came down from $50 to $30. Unfortunately, CoD4 is kind of the FPS I'm most itching to play. I'll just have to "bide my time" with STALKER, Bioshock, Portal, and HL2: Episode 2. Shouldn't be too bad a time.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:10 pm        Reply with quote

WTF, Episode 2 is $30 and Portal is $20. Doesn't Valve have a way to buy these games without paying the full cost of the Orange Box?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:30 pm        Reply with quote

ram will cost at least twice as much from any store.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:32 pm        Reply with quote

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WTF, Episode 2 is $30 and Portal is $20. Doesn't Valve have a way to buy these games without paying the full cost of the Orange Box?

No. If you bought HL2 and Ep1 separately, it's still cheapest to buy the full Orange Box. Doubtless the bastards did this on purpose.
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Man. For some reason, newegg claimed that my bank's payment authorization failed, but my bank says they never got the request. So I made a mistake somewhere, I guess. It's weird.

Anyway, I've got to place the order again now, but I think I'm going to swap out the keyboard and mouse for some RAM because I'll be able to buy a keyboard and mouse at a local store for not-too-insane prices (right?), even if they aren't totally ideal models.

I'm pissed about the Orange Box. I might actually pirate Portal. Fuck Valve.

Also, I'm thinking about giving EVE another shot. That'll be a hell of a lot of bang for my buck, and I'd like to see it on a nice computer/monitor instead of this pile I've been using. I'll just take another 21-day trial and hope that the skill system doesn't depress me too much now that I'm ready for it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:11 pm        Reply with quote

internisus wrote:
I think I'm going to swap out the keyboard and mouse for some RAM


good.

want my steam login? save you the trouble.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:24 pm        Reply with quote

Ha! Maybe later. I'm also downgrading to the Seagate Barracuda SATA 250GB w/ 8MB Cache. That's basically Portal bought right there.

Any ideas where to shop for keyboard and mouse locally? I'm not sure right now whether I want to get the same models I had picked out, but I'd at least like to know a good bet for cheap but not too crappy stand-ins. Circuit City's a bit far away. We have Best Buy, Target, a few small place, and I don't know what else.

I'm going to have all the cables I'll need included with stuff like the motherboard and case, right?
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psiga wrote:
Dunno if you're willing to dick around with rebates, but: http://www.techbargains.com/tellafriend2.cfm/114773


I switched to this RAM to keep it all in Newegg and not worry about additional shipping timing v. charge quandary on the Corsair deal I was going to do. So thanks for that, brother.
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The new order's also failing to get in touch with my bank to make the transaction for some reason. I've never seen this happen before. I spoke to two different customer service reps; the first checked my numbers over the phone and resubmitted the payment info, and after I got another failure email the second one told me that she can't really do anything other than resubmit again. But after 24 hours of failures they'll do a manual submission, which probably means they'll actually call my bank.

Fuckin' weird. Not killing me though, because if this stuff ships Monday it'll be perfect timing to get it maybe Thursday as I'll have just finished some work.
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internisus wrote:
The new order's also failing to get in touch with my bank to make the transaction for some reason. I've never seen this happen before. I spoke to two different customer service reps; the first checked my numbers over the phone and resubmitted the payment info, and after I got another failure email the second one told me that she can't really do anything other than resubmit again. But after 24 hours of failures they'll do a manual submission, which probably means they'll actually call my bank.

Fuckin' weird. Not killing me though, because if this stuff ships Monday it'll be perfect timing to get it maybe Thursday as I'll have just finished some work.


debit card?

also, I use a $7 logitech internet pro PS/2 keboard on my PC. I love it. For my PS3 I have an $11 no name keybaord that I bought from my BX/PX. Works great. The only reason to spend tons on a keyboard is aesthetics, wireless, and a bunch of fancy extra media buttons. Or if you want a flat, laptop-like keyboard---I completely do not understand this market segment.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:18 pm        Reply with quote

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debit card?


Yes, it is, but I use it as a credit card all the time just like this. It also makes me money!
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Okay, so, my friend is very, very strongly encouraging me to cancel my order and buy a pre-fab machine, which I can then supplement with one or two improvements. There are many excellent deals on such machines at this forum. So right now I'm torn.

Also, here is a fantastic deal I think on an EVGA 8800GT with 512MB. $190 with Google Checkout. Shipping is free, and it's only $10 more than the superclocked 9600 in the order that's stuck on hold right now. Should I get that instead?
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Prefabs can be cheaper, but they can use proprietary drivers and parts that may not mesh well.

Also the windows installation is usually full of crap.
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Sushi K wrote:
Prefabs can be cheaper, but they can use proprietary drivers and parts that may not mesh well.

Also the windows installation is usually full of crap.


Is it possible to look for or prevent that stuff when shopping for the prefab?
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UNNNNGHHHHHHH

skye, figure out what you want, christ.

if you get an 8800, you can't have a small case.

do you even want a small case?
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Fuck, nevermind. I don't want to go back on this, and I don't want a prefab. And that 8800GT deal is contingent upon a $30 rebate I can't wait for. I'm sticking to the order.

Sorry for all the second-guessing. I don't think I've ever spent $1100 at once before.
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UNNNNGHHHHHHH

skye, figure out what you want, christ.

if you get an 8800, you can't have a small case.

do you even want a small case?


Yeah, I do, but my friend spent an hour telling me how I would save hundreds of dollars going the prefab route and saying to hell with SFF. He's very convincing. And possibly right.

He might be mailing me a Logitech keyboard though.
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Okay, so, my friend is very, very strongly encouraging me to cancel my order and buy a pre-fab machine


Why?

Show me a pre-configured major brand machine with those specs for cheaper.

and you can forget SFF.

You are not going to be able to get an pre-configured SFF unless you buy a Shuttle. Great computers---hell for upgrades---hell on your wallet.
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Well, you have to understand that my only inclination towards SFF is aesthetic and due to the fact that I know myself well enough to predict an irrational sadness until I fill every slot and bay in a tower case if I've opened it even once. I've never been inside a computer case and my perspective is all hear-say, so I'm very easily influenced.

But I trust you guys a lot, and I'm not going to rethink the purchase anymore. Just have to get it processed tomorrow; I guess the debit card is a problem for some reason.
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the only thing more expensive about SFF are the cases. Especially the really nice ones. The Mobo's overall are actually cheaper and most give you free video which is great for people who just want a small, quiet multimedia machine.

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your case has two drive 3.5 drive bays. put your optical drive in the top bay. use the open space of the bottom one to manage and hide extra cable length. there is also a space between the mobo tray and the front of the case that is good for running cables as well.


Here is a great deal on a factory recertified samsung 22 w/speakers.


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we told you many posts ago that SFF was going to cost more, stop second guessing yourself and just order the damned thing.
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I don't know what newegg's problem is, but it took them from Thursday until this evening (with way too many phone calls on my part) to successfully charge my damned bank account. And then they charged my account twice for the sound card! But a guy told me I'd definitely have my stuff Thursday, Friday at the latest though, so I'm on schedule to have a great weekend.

I need to buy: A router, a mouse pad, and a static-killing wrist band. Or do I? I read the instructions here for putting everything together, and while it's more involved than I expected I think I'll be okay. But I'm worried about the static issue. I don't usually give/get static shocks except when it's cold and I get out of my car. Around the house? Never. So, what do you think: do I really need an anti-static wrist band? Are there alternative (free) precautions that I can take? (I live in New Jersey, not a particularly dry climate.) I'm going to get the router (somewhat) locally through Craigslist, and I figure it can't be too hard to find a mouse pad nearby.

Got my new headphones today! Plugged them in and listened to the soundtracks for Battlestar Galactica while working. The percussion is immediately impressive, and of course instrument differentiation and texture are far improved compared to the shite I was using earlier. But the overall tonality feels somewhat cold--sweeping, thick orchestral movements don't feel as much like they envelop me. I suspect that this may be because my crappy headphones blended so much together, leading me to develop that as a false standard for bigness. In any case, I'm sure I'll get used to the Grados. I'll try a wider variety of music tomorrow. I'm also looking forward to hearing the difference my sound card will make; this initial impression is based on just a discman.

Since I spent most of my money on hardware, I've been thinking that my best bet for mileage with games will be to go with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and EVE-Online initially. I tried to get into EVE once and liked it, but it didn't take--largely because I was put off by the time requirements for learning skills and the thought that I'd always be "behind" everyone else. After reading a lot of online literature, I see now that skills are not necessary for effective action; the game is far more tactical than I had given it credit for. I'm pretty excited to try again and dedicate myself to the game more fully; I've already planned the general scope of each of my three characters.

But all this stuff is being packed for shipping right now, and that's pretty exciting too!

o 1 x EVGA 512-P3-N862-AR GeForce 9600GT Superclocked 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
o 1 x APEVIA X-QPACK2-NW-BK/500 Black Aluminum Body/ Front Mask MicroATX Desktop Computer Case 500W Power Supply - Retail
o 1 x Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 Conroe 2.33GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E6550 - Retail
o 1 x GIGABYTE GA-G31M-S2L LGA 775 Intel G31 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
o 1 x Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA804 - Retail
o 1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
o 1 x Acer AL2216Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor with HDCP support - Retail
o 1 x SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B - OEM
o 1 x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
o 1 x Turtle Beach RIVIERA 5.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:00 am        Reply with quote

Your headphones will get better after a week or two of sem-frequent use. All speakers need to be "broken in". With headphones its probably even more noticeable because they are right up against your ear. My KOSS KSC-75 sounded a bit flat at first, not really having the suprising depth and seperation that people talked about. But feed em some stuff to chew on and they'll open up.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:53 am        Reply with quote

I know that's true in general, but these were refurbished, so I'd expected them to be broken in by whomever had and returned them before me. Maybe not, though.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:21 am        Reply with quote

this is what drives me nuts about you; go beat up your next door neighbor and take their mousepad. it's not the sort of thing you itemize, for chrissakes.

and no, you don't need a wristband.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:55 pm        Reply with quote

Make sure you do the EVE free trial first. Don't blow money on a subscription you'll ultimately regret.
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