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dhex



Joined: 17 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:06 am    Post subject: IC user survey    Reply with quote

Contact: Michael O’Connor
moconnor23NOSPAM@NOSPAMgmail.NOSPAMcom

Thank you for agreeing to participate and taking the time to fill out this survey. This is an ethnographic exploration of the experiences of the Insert Credit user community and the forums and their closure.

No names or identifying characteristics will be used in the final ethnographic report. The survey should take 10 to 20 minutes of your time - please answer the questions as honestly and completely as possible. I have left space at the end of the survey for respondents to insert any additional information they feel is relevant to their experiences. I may also contact respondents with some brief follow-up questions.

If you have any questions or concerns about the study please don’t hesitate to contact me.

The final report will be available to all participants. Thank you very much for your time.

A fresh copy of this document is available at:
http://dhex.org/cuny/ethnography/IC/oconnor-ICsurvey.doc

i just want to stress that i am very interested in the experience of all users, regardless of posting involvement. again, if you have any questions please feel free to email me at the above address. thank you.
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Wilkes
the lester bangs of selectbutton posting


Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:57 am        Reply with quote

dhex, why did you avoid meeting me :(
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Corinth
thatbox


Joined: 05 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:03 am        Reply with quote

This was useful to me in remembering when I first registered; it may or may not be to you. This is the (I believe) largest iteration, and what many people would call the canonical instance, of the forums.

http://cetteboite.com/images/icpostcountoctober.png
(Screenshot of the top poster list (with registration dates) from October 9th, 2004.)
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Intentionally Wrong



Joined: 05 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:20 am        Reply with quote

Hmm. My original IC avatar says "8 April 2004", which means I registered exactly one week before Mr. Toups.

Say, exactly when did the old forums close? I'd like to know how much time elapsed between my last post on the old forums and my first post on the new ones.
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hipkondo



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:52 am        Reply with quote

thatbox wrote:

http://cetteboite.com/images/icpostcountoctober.png
(Screenshot of the top poster list (with registration dates) from October 9th, 2004.)


Hey I used to post alot! And whatever happened to Randomlogik?
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psiga
saudade


Joined: 04 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:35 am        Reply with quote

Oh lord, I've already written a lot. 10 or 20 minutes my day-glo white ass. I've got one question left: 10) What did you like about the IC forums?

I'm gonna break and ponder that for a bit.
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stotelheim
The Guy Who Will Give a Kiss for ₩ 5000


Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:38 am        Reply with quote

I'll do it later today.

Also: hi dhex, any chance of you sticking around? Persona is going to make you be korean if you don't.
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negativedge
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:48 am        Reply with quote

dhex stay or I'll kill something and I swear to god it will be something good.

Also, answers sent.
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Takashi



Joined: 04 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:26 am        Reply with quote

Aw man, the times where I could afford to be in a top poster listing. However, I'm pretty sure the IC forums had crashed once already on that screenshot - everyone is joining back in October '03, including me.
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negativedge
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:58 pm        Reply with quote

Yeah, that was the second incarnation.
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Mr. Apol
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:34 am        Reply with quote

thatbox what is #bondage like?
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Corinth
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:23 am        Reply with quote

Pretty fucking extreme.
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stotelheim
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:06 pm        Reply with quote

Just sent it in.
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BenoitRen
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:45 pm        Reply with quote

Quote:
http://dhex.org/cuny/ethnography/IC/oconnor-ICsurvey.doc

Please post the survey in a format that everyone can open, instead of the proprietary M$-Word format. I can help you with the HTML, if you want, should you decide to convert it to a HTML page.
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stotelheim
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:21 pm        Reply with quote

Man come on don't use a dollar sign like that.

Please man you ain't got to do that in here, ain't no need for that.
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BotageL
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:12 pm        Reply with quote

Get Openoffice or something if giving money to THE BORG makes you cry yourself to sleep at night.
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BenoitRen
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:51 pm        Reply with quote

Quote:
Man come on don't use a dollar sign like that.

Bite me.
Quote:
Get Openoffice

1) That doesn't change the fact that the survey is in a proprietary format.
2) OpenOffice is a bloated program that I refuse to install on my personal PC.
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Baron Patsy
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Joined: 05 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:02 pm        Reply with quote

BenoitRen wrote:
Quote:
Man come on don't use a dollar sign like that.

Bite me.
Quote:
Get Openoffice

1) That doesn't change the fact that the survey is in a proprietary format.
2) OpenOffice is a bloated program that I refuse to install on my personal PC.


Jesus, get the hell over it. You aren't 'fighting the man' or anything here, you're just being an annoying douche. This isn't slashdot, either contribute something or stop bitching.
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psiga
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Joined: 04 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:57 pm        Reply with quote

Clearly there are no other applications in all of Linux World which are capable of opening a .doc. Luckily, us Windows users get WordPad, which opens it and also converts it into a different format.
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hipkondo



Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:10 pm        Reply with quote

Sent.
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haze
la belle poney sans merci


Joined: 04 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:20 pm        Reply with quote

Baron Patsy wrote:
either contribute something or stop bitching.


this took like 3 seconds to click "Save As" so here you go dude

survey in RTF format


I can sympathize because I'm on Win98 and for some stupid reason Wordpad on here is NOT forwards-compatible with more recent Wordpad and .doc files, it's really annoying. So ironically I'm using OpenOffice here.
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Baron Patsy
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:39 am        Reply with quote

haze wrote:
Baron Patsy wrote:
either contribute something or stop bitching.


this took like 3 seconds to click "Save As" so here you go dude

survey in RTF format


I can sympathize because I'm on Win98 and for some stupid reason Wordpad on here is NOT forwards-compatible with more recent Wordpad and .doc files, it's really annoying. So ironically I'm using OpenOffice here.


It's not so much that I can't sympathize with him as it is that I find his attitude extremely off-putting and bitchy.
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dhex



Joined: 17 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:42 am        Reply with quote

plaintext version

edit: i am quite sorry i missed your goodbye there, wilkes.
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psiga
saudade


Joined: 04 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:10 am        Reply with quote

You gettin' enough entries so far? I remember that there weren't nearly enough volunteers back when you asked about this on TGQ.
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dhex



Joined: 17 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:55 pm        Reply with quote

more is always better, though i've had 45 offers so far, and about 20 responses. i don't need to start analysis and draft writing until the end of february anyway.
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Toups
tyranically banal


Joined: 03 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:03 pm        Reply with quote

stotelheim wrote:
Man come on don't use a dollar sign like that.

Please man you ain't got to do that in here, ain't no need for that.


I tried to put a word filter on M$ but it didn't work :(
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BenoitRen
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Joined: 05 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:11 pm        Reply with quote

In what way am I being an annoying douche? I politely asked for an open version. Nothing more, nothing less.

If this is just because I use a dollar sign instead of a normal S, well, there are more important things to get upset about. I will choose how I write my messages.

Thank you haze and dhex for your understanding.
Sent.
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Toups
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:25 pm        Reply with quote

I just think the whole M$ thing is incredibly juvenile and it's not the level of discourse that I want to have around these parts. whatever, though.

edit: oops, beaten by my own word filter!
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another coma
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Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:05 am        Reply with quote

lordy, yeah,


hey, survey sent! even I finished it, the rest of ya should get to finishing it too.

Maybe, I wrote too much? I'm sure I didn't write the most.
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Intentionally Wrong



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:19 am        Reply with quote

Guys, can somebody answer my question?

Quote:
Say, exactly when did the old forums close? I'd like to know how much time elapsed between my last post on the old forums and my first post on the new ones.

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Rud31
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:21 pm        Reply with quote

Intentionally Wrong wrote:
Guys, can somebody answer my question?

Quote:
Say, exactly when did the old forums close? I'd like to know how much time elapsed between my last post on the old forums and my first post on the new ones.


You mean the hacking on like..June 16th 2005? I have a picture somewhere that should have the exact date. The new forums opened up in like August?
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psiga
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:10 pm        Reply with quote

B coma wrote:
Maybe, I wrote too much? I'm sure I didn't write the most.

I am approximately 99.8% certain that I wrote the most.
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Corinth
thatbox


Joined: 05 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:00 pm        Reply with quote

BenoitRen wrote:
In what way am I being an annoying douche? I politely asked for an open version. Nothing more, nothing less.

If this is just because I use a dollar sign instead of a normal S, well, there are more important things to get upset about. I will choose how I write my messages.

Thank you haze and dhex for your understanding.
Sent.


http://www.abisource.com/ AbiWord
http://www.openoffice.org/product/writer.html OO.o Writer component
http://www.koffice.org/kword KWord
http://docs.google.com/ Google Docs

There really is no reason to be a douche (you were!) about these things; we all know as much as you do about them and we're all on the same page - but we don't let it interfere with Getting Things Done. This is not one of the places where you need to take a play-it-dumb approach to evangelizing for FOSS, or against closed file formats. You could have been far more constructive by using any of the above (or the editor you no doubt already have installed) to convert the .doc to a less heinous filetype and posted it as an alternative.

Thanks to such tools, .doc really is a format that everyone can open, and pretending it isn't is entirely unnecessary here!

Patsy, you should have converted it to OOXML for the lulz ;_;
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BenoitRen
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:28 am        Reply with quote

You still fail to explain why you think I was being a douche in the first place. Stop making excuses. A closed format is a closed format, and I asked for an open format, which was provided.

By the way, unlike what you people seem to assume, I don't use GNU/Linux.
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Baron Patsy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:15 am        Reply with quote

BenoitRen wrote:
You still fail to explain why you think I was being a douche in the first place. Stop making excuses. A closed format is a closed format, and I asked for an open format, which was provided.

By the way, unlike what you people seem to assume, I don't use GNU/Linux.


What? He clearly explained it in his post, and his reasons are exactly the same as mine.
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Corinth
thatbox


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:22 am        Reply with quote

You probably weren't, all that much, really. Everybody's happy, now, anyway.

Just, in the future, if someone posts a .doc again, you really can make your own ODF or RTF or TXT out of it without pasting a FOSS snob form letter. Google Docs can do this with no installation on your own machine!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:42 am        Reply with quote

BenoitRen wrote:
Please post the survey in a format that everyone can open, instead of the proprietary M$-Word format.

These words scream to many of us, "Look at me! I hate Microsoft software because it's not 'open!' Rather than take simple steps to convert or open the document on my own and perhaps provide the converted file for others who may share my disdain for the format, I shall ask for someone else to do it for me while taking a stab at The Borg by using a dollar sign instead of an S! Boy, that'll show Bill Gates!"
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Toups
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:43 am        Reply with quote

thatbox wrote:
You probably weren't, all that much, really. Everybody's happy, now, anyway.

Just, in the future, if someone posts a .doc again, you really can make your own ODF or RTF or TXT out of it without pasting a FOSS snob form letter. Google Docs can do this with no installation on your own machine!


Surely you don't expect him to support that privacy-invasive mockery of a search engine, too.
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Broco



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:52 am        Reply with quote

Mister Toups wrote:
Surely you don't expect him to support that privacy-invasive mockery of a search engine, too.


Not to worry, Slashdot loves Google.
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Intentionally Wrong



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:52 am        Reply with quote

Rud13 wrote:
Intentionally Wrong wrote:
Guys, can somebody answer my question?

Quote:
Say, exactly when did the old forums close? I'd like to know how much time elapsed between my last post on the old forums and my first post on the new ones.


You mean the hacking on like..June 16th 2005? I have a picture somewhere that should have the exact date. The new forums opened up in like August?


What? No. I mean... the date of the forum closure. The IC Forum archive has posts from November 24 of 2006, if not later; it's hard to tell whether I've found the last post or not. I just hoped somebody knew the exact date.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:57 am        Reply with quote

BenoitRen wrote:
You still fail to explain why you think I was being a douche in the first place. Stop making excuses. A closed format is a closed format, and I asked for an open format, which was provided.

By the way, unlike what you people seem to assume, I don't use GNU/Linux.


This post itself is pretty douchey, for the record.
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