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John Mc.
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 Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:06 am Post subject: MEGA MAN 7: KNOW WHAT IT IS TO FROTH FOR AN NES GAME |
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hey guys. i found this on another forum and have been playing it for about an hour now.
BELIEVE IT. |
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John Mc.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:07 am |
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| this also means all you HATERS have to stop HATING ( >:( ) on megaman 7! |
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wasted potential
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:52 am |
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wait what's this about HATERS hating on mega MAN 7
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mals marola
Joined: 21 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:04 am |
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| what's there not to like about megaman 7? |
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Judge Ito
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: IA
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:34 am |
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| mals marola wrote: |
| what's there not to like about megaman 7? |
Megaman looks like he's scowling constantly.
Fuck that noise.
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Eudaimon
Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Space City
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:54 pm |
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| I thought Megaman 7's physics felt kind of weird. I never really got into it, even though I got more than halfway through it. This remake seems pretty excellent though. |
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Chuplayer
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Location: mint = OWNED
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:48 pm |
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| mals marola wrote: |
| what's there not to like about megaman 7? |
The final Wily is more of a game of luck than anything else. |
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shnozlak
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: glueing googly eyes to everything
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:56 pm |
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zaku @ 2:09
This looks pretty rad.
Yuck music though
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mals marola
Joined: 21 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:25 pm |
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wily has always been impossibly hard though
it's only my 4th or so favorite megaman but i always enjoy the hell out of it when i'm playing. |
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Moogs
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
Location: filth in the beauty
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:55 pm |
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| mals marola wrote: |
| wily has always been impossibly hard though |
Only because they almost always force you to use the weapon with no range to damage him.
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wasted potential
Joined: 19 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:59 pm |
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shade man's level all NES-ized is bitchin
I want this game
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BIGJ420COOLDUDE
Joined: 04 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:20 pm |
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not sure what this is supposed to prove
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Mr Mustache
Mean Mr. Mustache
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: bushwick
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:00 am |
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Anyone have this in a .zip or something?
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dessgeega
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Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:20 am |
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you know, i feel the first four stages of the game are a lot stronger than the latter four, makaimuraman aside.
i like what the slightly more linear structure allows them to do, though.
also, that jester robot at the game's midpoint. it sticks out sorely, surrounded by older and more iconic robot masters as it is in the robot museum (though i guess, to capcom's credit, you battle it with skull man and ring man in the background). but in the megaman game with probably the most elaborate boss battles to (its) date, the jester boss is both very simple and pretty hard. it's a good midpoint boss, though i guess gutsman - the most iconic and lasting robot master in the series - is a tough act to follow.
neither that level structure or the boss fight are in this demake, of coursse.
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BenoitRen
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:17 am |
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I don't get it. So I followed the steps (I had to download the two other files too), and nothing happened. I looked at the .lzh file, and it seems to have everything. But WinZip can't handle LHA without a plug-in. Grr.
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Tokyo Rude
Joined: 28 Mar 2007
Location: Redundant
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:03 am |
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| BenoitRen use WinRar for .lzh files. Don't you dare give us your insane crap about WinRar. |
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extrabastardformula
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Joined: 01 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:04 am |
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7zip is fine too
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dessgeega
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Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:19 am |
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actually, i can't stand winrar either. 7zip!
edit: man, FUCK winrar.
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IceTyger
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:11 am |
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| A fact that I wrote: |
Megaman 7's version of Mega Man was used for legions of terrible sprite comics:
And that's terrible. |
Once that's taken out of the equation, 7 looks more interesting to play through!
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Kappuru
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Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:18 am |
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Winrar's an excellent program!
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dmauro
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:50 pm |
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But IZArc is better and free.
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mals marola
Joined: 21 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:53 pm |
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winRAR is free for me even though it continues to argue that it isn't.
it's always been like this.
and how could anyone complain about rockman's post-nes graphics? he couldn't have made a better transition. |
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BenoitRen
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:11 pm |
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| Tokyo Rude wrote: |
| BenoitRen use WinRar for .lzh files. Don't you dare give us your insane crap about WinRar. |
This is contradicting. But okay, I'll use WinRAR. I do have it installed.
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BenoitRen
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:33 pm |
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Okay, I extracted it, and launched the executable. Works on Windows 95! Cool.
This is quite neat. It's indeed a good NES port of Mega Man 7. However, I have some gripes...
It's designed with QWERTY keyboards in mind. Grr. Couldn't the developer have picked keys that are on the same place on both lay-outs?
Whoever programmed this must be a sloppy coder. The game runs in slow-motion on my machine. At least the music isn't slowed down, or it would be really annoying. And before you call me out on my machine, it can run Mega Man 7 (SNES) just fine in an emulator!
Also, frequent access violations.
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Kappuru
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:43 pm |
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what's your proc speed / ram?
You're still running 95 and not even 98se?
legendary curmudgeon.
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dessgeega
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:44 pm |
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benren, get a joypad and joy2key.
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BenoitRen
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:34 pm |
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| Kappuru wrote: |
| what's your proc speed / ram? |
Pentium II 233 Mhz with 160 MB of RAM. A NES is only 1.79 Mhz (and has an inferior instruction set)!
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| You're still running 95 and not even 98se? |
Windows 95 is better than Windows 98SE, and doesn't have mandatory IE integration.
And seriously, if it works, it works. I don't care about (misinformed) popular opinion.
I'll check out JoyToKey if I ever burst out in rage over the controls. As it is now, I only play in short bursts anyway. Still, thanks for the suggestion, dessgeega.
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Mr. Toups
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:40 pm |
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man are you one of those dvorak users or something or is there a dramatic difference in french keyboard layouts?
(I did not notice one when I was there)
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Dark Age Iron Savior
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:42 pm |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
| Pentium II 233 Mhz with 160 MB of RAM. A NES is only 1.79 Mhz (and has an inferior instruction set)! |
this is the part where we all laugh at you again, just so you know
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Kappuru
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Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:59 am |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
| Kappuru wrote: |
| what's your proc speed / ram? |
Pentium II 233 Mhz with 160 MB of RAM. A NES is only 1.79 Mhz (and has an inferior instruction set)!
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| You're still running 95 and not even 98se? |
Windows 95 is better than Windows 98SE, and doesn't have mandatory IE integration.
And seriously, if it works, it works. I don't care about (misinformed) popular opinion.
I'll check out JoyToKey if I ever burst out in rage over the controls. As it is now, I only play in short bursts anyway. Still, thanks for the suggestion, dessgeega. |
ah yeah. sorry i like oses where if an app crashes it doesn't bring home the whole goddamn system. it's also misinformed to like wi-fi. or millions of colors at high resolutions. or playing team fortress 2.
i mean, i'd love to run photoshop 3.0 and be limited to 300 dpi postage stamps, but I can't really bring myself to go back to having a 10 gb drive.
You, sir, are a curmudgeon.
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Kappuru
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:59 am |
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btw, just to be constructive, NESticle and GENecyst will run FANTASTICALLY on your system.
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BenoitRen
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:01 am |
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| Mister Toups wrote: |
man are you one of those dvorak users or something or is there a dramatic difference in french keyboard layouts?
(I did not notice one when I was there) |
My keyboard is set up as Belgian. Which is French with minor differences. French keyboards are AZERTY instead of QWERTY. This does make a huge difference!
In this game, Z is jump, and X is fire.
On QWERTY, the lay-out is like so:
QWER
ASDF
WXCV
On AZERTY, the lay-out is like so:
AZER
QSDF
WXCV
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| this is the part where we all laugh at you again, just so you know |
Idiots laugh at it, yes.
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Mr Mustache
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:25 am |
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I really thought BenoitRen was dais :/
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Dark Age Iron Savior
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:05 am |
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Also Benoit, Japanese doujin games near universally use the Z/X/C keys for most actions. And this is basically a Japanese doujin game, so...
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Adol
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:10 am |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
| Kappuru wrote: |
| what's your proc speed / ram? |
Pentium II 233 Mhz with 160 MB of RAM. A NES is only 1.79 Mhz (and has an inferior instruction set)! |
Well... it's obviously a win32 app, not an NES Rom. I'm guessing it uses DirectDraw calls, if it actually manages to run on a win95 machine. What I'm more amazed at is your machine. Honestly dude, I think you could probably get a better computer for free off of craigslist, if you just scoured the free pages for a little while. Do you do most of your browsing through a text based broswer? Does most of the internet even work on your pc? |
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Baines
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:39 am |
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| Kappuru wrote: |
| btw, just to be constructive, NESticle and GENecyst will run FANTASTICALLY on your system. |
The right NeoGeo emulators will do okay as well. I used to run NeoGeo emulation on a P1 200MHz. RAM was the speed issue there (as if you didn't have enough RAM, you were in for serious hard drive thrashing on later larger games.) |
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BenoitRen
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:20 pm |
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| Adol wrote: |
| Well... it's obviously a win32 app, not an NES Rom. I'm guessing it uses DirectDraw calls, if it actually manages to run on a win95 machine. |
Yeah. But incompetent often use silly APIs they don't need that aren't supported on Windows 95 (like IsDebuggerPresent, grr (see OpenOffice)).
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| What I'm more amazed at is your machine. Honestly dude, I think you could probably get a better computer for free off of craigslist, if you just scoured the free pages for a little while. |
It's the computer I bought 10 years ago, and it always works. I do have a WinXP laptop and a secondary PC (which has again decided to not work), but I don't really need the extra power.
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| Do you do most of your browsing through a text based broswer? Does most of the internet even work on your pc? |
What, you think people didn't browse the graphical web back in '98? Seriously, I hate it how people compare recent machines to mine and think it can't do anything worthwhile. Computers already were in homes since the early 90s, you know! And they became quite capable in the late 90s.
SeaMonkey works just fine. It's the latest version, even! It browses the web graphically, does mailing, newsgroups, IRC, and basic FTP. With my extension it even does MSN. I don't have Flash installed (used to have version 6), but I do have Flash Player 7 if I want to watch something.
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showka
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:48 pm |
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Does anyone know what the key for the subscreen is? I can't find it or the key that switches to the blue dots in the password screen.
Also, is there anyway to run this in full screen? |
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BenoitRen
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:16 pm |
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You use the Q key for the sub-screen. As for full-screen, it should be somewhere in the options for the config utility, but I don't know which.
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chevluh
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:35 pm |
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| So wait, this is a PC app looking like a NES game and not a hacked NES rom? Haven't tried it yet, so I didn't realize that. I'm kinda disappointed now. |
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