[diplo]

[aderack]

yup.

[Toups]

[lolipalooza]

[JamesE]

[haze]

i quite like 8-bit Castlevania's physics/controls and i don't find them that limiting or difficult. it's somewhat-realistic physics for a purpose. the same reason you don't get Bullet-Time Dante abilities in Silent Hill games.

it is interesting when in III you get Grant and he feels superhuman by comparison. just because he can FINALLY change direction in mid-air and not slow down when falling from tall heights, just like Mario does, not to mention crawling on walls. too bad he's so damn weak at attacking.

i haven't played "OMFG I HAVE A MAP THIS IS TOTALLY LIKE METROID"-vania so i'm too outdated here to be a fan :<


now if you want Sadomasochist controls i point to 8-bit Ninja Gaiden. fucking hell, i hated those games, and the controls aren't even slowed down! what's the point of playing a game as a ninja if every single enemy you meet is twice as fast as you are?

[Deets]

The infuriating difficulty in Ninja Gaiden stems primarily from the fact that enemies respawn constantly at the edge of the screen, and about 90% of them from about stage 5 on are placed on tiny platforms over bottomless pits.

[DarwinMayflower]

The biggest problem I seem to find with the IGA-vania series now is that most of the storyline seems just to exist for the pure sake of referencing some previous Castlevania in some shape or form. PoA references Bloodlines, AoS and DoS with SOTN and Dracula's Curse and HoD with CV2 in some shape or form. The problem I find is that it doesn't seem the series is concerned with advancing itself anymore as opposed to just putting in a lot of homages, references and trying to tie every non-IGA Castlevania together in some shape or form.

But I have to quote showka from the beginning of the thread:

[diplo]

[Laurel Soup]

So the modern Castlevania games aren't bad Castlevania games, but rather good Ninja Gaiden games?
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[aderack]

They're sort of decent sidescrolling Diablo, is what they are.

[firenze]

[firenze]

Note to self and rest of SB...

Firenze is now going to shut the hell up, because it seems the invariable result of his posting on a IC/SB Castlevania thread is angry accusations of artfaggery, reverse artfaggery, assholishness, IGA-worship, and people not understanding anything about video games.

[Toups]

This isn't about artfaggery or who's more "indie" or whatever else. It's just that citing overwhelming critical support is a really weak argument, especially in an environment like this.

Anyway it was still inappropriate of me to say that, so I'm sorry. I've been in a sour mood for personal reasons lately. No offense intended.
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[Shapermc]

[Ben Reed]

[dessgeega]

except that maria's way too easy.
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[JamesE]

[Toups]

[JamesE]

Yes but if you took a survey of people outside here they would be all boners ahoy and set sail for dick over it. This place has a weird fanboy factor. It does!

[Toups]

[JamesE]

Yeah, I think I'm going to have to say that's a really stupid precedent.

The games are generally acclaimed.

[JamesE]

And everyone here used to really, really like DoS! Then it became fashionable to hate on it, and the overwhelming negativity sucked in a whole bunch of people like a Katamari of tears!

[Toups]

[TheTigerHobbes]

[firenze]

[JamesE]

[JamesE]

[Toups]

james I should show you my aria of sorrow save game where I have 9 of every item with a level 99 Soma.

I maxed the fuck out of that game and I just got tired of DoS giving more of the same.
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[JamesE]

[Toups]

[JamesE]

Regardless, I think grinding has destroyed the part of your mind that will ever let you accept a new Castlevania.

[Toups]

[JamesE]

[Toups]

Well, we're going in circles here, because I still feel like grinding is ultimately the only thing entertaining about the game.
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[JamesE]

That doesn't make any sense what the hell

[Mr Stegosaurus]

James, he's saying that grinding is only fun for so long, and that DoS doesn't have much else going for it -- so once you're sick of Igarashi-style grinding (for example, if you've spent 40 hours on Aria), the game is no longer satisfying. How does that not make sense? Come on, man. I haven't even played DoS and I followed along just fine.

[diplo]

guys i really don't see the grinding problem in aria
you only have to harvest two souls and most of the time those enemies relinquish them the first time
if not it takes 10-20 kills before they give it up and they die with about three hits

if you avoid like 60% of the enemies yeah then you will have to grind i guess (not really though because i just played through the game a few nights ago on hard mode and no items and did the double jump sequence breaker and completed it all at about level 16 while dying twice) but isn't part of the fun of the castleroids using your weapons on the enemies and seeing the big numbers and watching them explode in satisfying bursts of flames

or maybe not! who knows different strokes

i'll agree with dawn though
what the fuck were they thinking with making me get souls to get new weapons
also hey i just got a soul wops i need to get a few more of the same soul before it's moderately useable
the worst part is that iron golem which will ALWAYS take 50 hits to kill

i know it's all optional but isn't that kinda the point of the games - options
considering that the fat of the game shouldn't be drab

[Toups]

I didn't have to grind in aria. But I did grind because it was fun.

Also because I was in France and that was pretty much the only game that I had with me for over a month.
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[showka]

[showka]