[chevluh]

[dessgeega]

oh, i think raidy is more interesting in concept than in execution. but there are little hints that the videogame medium could explore seduction in a way that is entirely unlike the way it is presented in other mediums. the boss encounters aren't just text dumps (though there's plenty of text, and plenty of dump); you're given three options, "look", "talk" and "fight".

when you talk to the boss she guides you through a small enactment of roles: "girls do not often come to me of their own accord." "i've come to defeat you, monster!" "i like your spirit. you'll make a fine pet." "p-pet? never! have at thee!" if you talk to her more she will continue to goad her into fighting her, until you pick "fight".

at which point the game will switch to the typical "battle display" familiar from the random encounters, and the boss will almost casually dispatches her secret weapon that renders you helpless, cackling at how you've stepped into her trap and created the outcome she expected all along. you stepped into the trap. you clicked the button, knowing the outcome.

in an abstract and limited way, it is almost like seduction. it is different than simply reading text (even though that is MOST of what you're doing); the nature of the medium demands a COMPLICITY from the player that isn't present in the same way in other media. raidy doesn't tread very far down this path - that's not its goal, after all - but it hints that such possibilities exist: to use player agency to engineer a more compelling presentation of seduction.

i've often compared the way a game author guides the player through a game to the way a top guides a bottom through a scene. and though raidy is far from the best example of either smut or videogame, the POTENTIALITY of applying that dynamic to an actual representation of flirtation and seduction is something that deeply interests and excites me. hell, i've been playing with the concept in my own games for a while now.
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[dessgeega]

also, domme restaurant intrigues me. tell me more.
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[Dark Age Iron Savior]

that interesting insight would've been a lot better in your previous post.
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[Dracko]

You can fuck along now, DAIS.
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[invisibleyogurt]

anyone ever play bible black? it features huge grotesque car crusher bazongas, futanari and ugly character designs so I'm not too interested in the arousal aspect of it; but it's the only eroge I've ever seen for sale at FYE (or any such store), and I hear it gets into some actual serious dark-psychological-drama stuff.

there was an OVA made out of it that's notorious for having the worst dub of all time too!

[Chuplayer]

[invisibleyogurt]

[RobotRocker]

[Takashi]

[dessgeega]

[DunklesAltersEisenRetter]

An der Furcht vor Geschlechtskrankheit und jüdischer starker Verbreitung, diese liegt meine nur sexuelle Freigabe.
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[BotageL]

Sup cocaine socialist!
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no fun allowed on botageL's watch!

[bloody heartland]

[Drem]

A while back I played Castle Fantasia 2 Renewal. When I started, I thought it was a regular "ADV" game with Ogre Tactics style battles, but one time while the main characters were discussing battle plans or something, the game suddenly cut to the protagonist's best friend having sex with his wife. After that scene, it cut back to battle plans discussion. It was pretty non-squirter, and pretty funny with how the developers didn't seem to really care how they threw the sex scenes in, as long as they were there. I think I only ever got 2 or 3 sex scenes though, which was less than half the girls, but overall they seemed pretty extraneous. It was a generic fantasy story about a war between two kingdoms, but it was actually a pretty amusing game.

The battle system was pretty basic, featuring only move, attack, and special attack choices, and maybe a defend command. You had all of your main character people in battle with their respective abilities versus random monsters or soldiers. Some battles were sort of difficult if I remember correctly, as the monsters were strong, but it was pretty even throughout. Many battles split your group across the map, as the solution to all battles seemed to be to use a "pincer attack." It became a bit of a running joke, intentionally or not, since you always knew the answer to any and all problems in the game.

"Heroguy! The enemy soldiers are attacking a local village! What will we do!?"
"Hmm... Our only option is a pincer attack."

"Sir, we've lured the enemy into our trap! What next?"
"We'll set up a pincer attack and wipe them out!"

"Oh no! We're surrounded!"
"Quick! Use a pincer attack!"

[alice]

[Intentionally Wrong]

That MxS game kind of reminds me of the old Princess Maker games, where you were responsible for scheduling this girl's training, education, and free time. It's also reminiscent of the newly-burgeoning management sim games like Diner Dash.

In terms of porn games, the two big variables are in terms of Structure and Narrative. While obviously these variables represent a whole spectrum of possible designs, for the sake of the discussion let's pretend they're binary.

So in terms of structure, on one end you've got the Task/Reward model, where you jump through one or more gameplay hoops, for which you're rewarded with an arousing picture, cutscene, or interactive sequence. The task itself may or may not have anything to do with reward you're pursuing; the classic example is Strip Poker, but the traditional h-game also falls in this category.

On the other end of the structural axis is the Participatory model, where the arousing content is immediately available and the player's involvement determines how the sequence plays out. You can find this a lot in flash and in adult interactive fiction. Sexualized fighting games (hello SCIV and DOA) do this, too. There's also a company called Illusion Soft that makes several games based on this structure; they wind up being little more than a "creepy digital sex doll" program.

There's a similar range in narrative approaches; without going into it too much, some games have a very specific setting or characters or scenario, while some games are extremely generic, unassuming affairs, presumably to encourage the player to come up with his own ideas about why these people happen to be doing whatever it is they're doing, wherever they happen to be.

SO TO SUMMARIZE:

The generic task/reward game is poker or pong or any other typical game with pornographic rewards for success.

Specific task/reward games include traditional h-games, some AIF, and hybrid games like Soul Calibur.

The generic participatory category contains Illusion Soft's products, among others.

The specific participatory category is the one I'm most curious about, because I'm having a hard time thinking of examples. There's some AIF, but probably the most interesting thing I've found that might qualify is this old series of KiSS dolls made by this obscure German guy who went by "the Owl." Equal parts fairy-tale, romance, and pornographic content, they told a variety of stories about this girl who got transformed into a scarecrow; using a variety of everyday items, some magic, and an indefatigable sense of trial and error, the player could transform her back, win her heart, and then try to sex her up without accidentally summoning a demon or destroying the world.
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[dessgeega]

that reminds me of my two favorite attempts to document the subject, luckykiss xxx and snow blossom house, both by anne-marie schleiner.
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[Intentionally Wrong]

So, I finally got around to checking these links out, and wow. Talk about a nostalgia trip. Back at KU I kind of went on a KiSS spree for a couple months back in late 2000, early 2001, just to try to figure out what the hell was going on here. It all came across as... really, really foreign, even when people were using western art designs or properties.
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[Rya.Reisender]

Just got linked to this thread which is supposely for porn games.

The best porn game I ever played was a porn version of Qix (not hentai, real porn). It played much better than the original and Qix just fits perfectly for revealing pictures. Can't remember its title anymore, though.

Otherwise I only know some dating sims which were pretty good and some shoot 'em ups.

Also, dating sims in Japanese kinda ruin their purpose. If I just wanna see hot pictures there are easier ways...

[Talbain]

Dividead, Season of Sakura and I guess Tsukihime. I've played others, but eh, most of them are just dreck, a thinly veiled excuse to promote the already mentioned sexual fantasies. Fate/stay night would probably end up here somewhere but it ultimately stops trying to be a love story and becomes some sort of "my stats are better than your stats" type bullshit halfway through. Still, the characters have personality, so I can fault it for that at least. I kind of want to see what Quartett is, just because I like Oyari Ashito's artwork, but I'm not even sure it's an h-game. I suppose I'd have more to say about this genre but the genre itself is either so thin that it's basically just outright pornography or so thick that you wonder why it was hentai in the first place. Dividead is the only h-game I've played that I've actually felt straddled both genres well, even if it was really strange (though that was the goal, so it succeeded as a game in that aspect).
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[RobotRocker]

Guys, I thought we agreed to do this for only one week a year?

You are looking for Gals Panic by the way Rya.
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[Rya.Reisender]

[chevluh]

Sengoku Rance is pretty good, though you'll need to understand japanese or have a good FAQ. It's a japanese strategy RPG parodying the japanese civil war.

[RobotRocker]

[Rya.Reisender]

[chevluh]

[extrabastardformula]

Miss World 96 Nude is what rya is likely thinking of, but I find the actial game of the Gals Panic series and the doujin tribute GalsPanixx series is a lot better. I kind of wish there were non porn qix type games anymore
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[Loki Laufeyson]

the first gals panic game has photos, and it is horrible. it has these really creepy voices encouraging you as you play.

the doujin gals panic game is excellent, though.
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[Rya.Reisender]

I blame the real life girls for sucking so much in terms of personality.

[Rya.Reisender]

Honestly, erotic and game doesn't fit really well together for me. It's better if I can use both hands for masturbation. You guys probably don't masturbate when playin those games, but then... why play erotic games to begin with?

[A New Duck]

I've played a few eroges in the past. The only one that really stood out above the rest (and I've bothered to replay) was True Love. Recently, playing Persona 3 with its time management and social link systems has me kind of longing for other robust life/dating sim games. Any others worth noting? Sexually explicit or not?

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[UnitedBiscuits]

[chevluh]

[A New Duck]