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General Eroge Thread: CircleJerk Ahoy (Ft. Eroge week '08)

 
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scratchmonkey
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:38 am        Reply with quote

antitype wrote:
glossolalia wrote:
i suppose that's a conversation better suited for the axe

As is this entire awful thread, I would say.


For reals? I haven't played an "erotic game" since I was 15 (when we were lucky to have greyscale gifs, mind you); I don't really see why the discussion of the frankly weird ero-game niche is automatically trash, something to be ghettofied.

Or, if it's not the subject matter, what is it about this thread that you find so distasteful?
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scratchmonkey
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:07 am        Reply with quote

So, you're reacting entirely to a few posts in the thread that you think are low-brow and ignoring the posts that are discussing the design and psychology and the why god why of erogames?

I mean, I've pretty much just skimmed the thread; looking at dess' posts on the second page, it seems like there's some pretty "legit" discussion going on that isn't really covered by your complaints.

Or, to put it another way, why is anything "less than pure ridicule" unacceptable?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:43 am        Reply with quote

It just seems like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Yes, pretty much anything that involves "erotic" content outside of pornography* begs the question of "why not just pornography" since it doesn't seem to serve any purpose separate from porn while obfuscating the traditional porn experience. Well, there's some discussion to be had as to whether this is true or whether the obfuscation has a vital role to play in the process, discussions that wouldn't happen if the whole mess was tossed in the garbage/Axe.

I'm also interested that the validation of our base natures is somehow sullying -- would you have the same reaction if there were a thread about FPSes where people were talking about how great and awesome it was in this particular part of the level when such-and-such happened and there was blood everywhere?

* - Which has been described elsewhere, accurately, as "cigarettes for the brain".
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:56 am        Reply with quote

Loki Laufeyson wrote:
desire and lust should not be celebrated.


Yet BenRen was the first to respond to the original thread.
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scratchmonkey
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:36 am        Reply with quote

Loki was making an in-joke.

And really, I think it would be disingenuous to argue that at least one of the main draws of FPS games isn't the human fascination with the taboo nature of violence. So while I don't think that "gore" is necessarily a major draw for an FPS, I do think that simulated violence is. And I say this as somebody who likes FPS games.

I feel compelled to point out that you didn't actually ignore my correlation of sex with violence, which I think is somewhat justified (the correlation), especially since many of the erogames mentioned here do intentionally have the act of rape (as well as other sexual taboos, such as incest) as part of their appeal.

I just find odd that it seems that the very existence of these games that you find to be banal and insipid precludes any sort of discussion of them, that any analysis must by default be worthless because the games themselves are worthless.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:16 am        Reply with quote

I don't think that you should stop posting about it in much the same way that I don't think the thread should have been Axed.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:27 pm        Reply with quote

I just don't get, if you would find something puerile and disgusting, why you wouldn't want to discuss and analyze it. Maybe it's just me, when I run into something that you react to in that way; I want to to know the whys and hows of my reaction as well as other people's reactions.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:13 am        Reply with quote

I really don't think the thread broke down at all. Then again, this is the kind of stuff that I like to discuss.

(Especially since I don't actually like/play erogames.)

I guess I have another question for you antitype, if you don't mind: What's the difference, if there is one, between h-games and regular hentai that makes the games more morally questionable/pathetic?
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