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psiga
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:31 pm        Reply with quote

manmachine plays jazz wrote:
do not buy a HP laptop, they are built terribly and it will be a nightmare to use and maintain.

Actually yeah. If I were to make that post all over again, I'd only link the Toshiba.

My first laptop was a Toshiba, and I liked it a lot (has MacBook Pro style keys!!); my second laptop was a Compaq (HP and Compaq are same), and I wouldn't recommend them to others; my third laptop is a Toshiba (basically a lighter-spec 15" version of the one that I linked) and it's pretty nice so far.

Wal-Mart, every handful of months, has a cheap laptop deal with very limited stocks. The last one was this for $398:
http://www.dodevice.com/toshiba-a205-s5000-notebook-398-at-walmart-on-july-20th/

It has a meager 1.82Ghz Celeron 540, single core, but that's enough for everything I do. Can run 1280x720 h.264 without stuttering, can have 50 tabs in firefox without choking, can run CS3 just fine. Has a gorgeous screen, excellent 24bit 192kHz sound chip, bluetooth, and a dual-layer DVD R/W drive. My complaints are that the fan runs all the fucking time (might be able to tweak that), and the mouse buttons are a little bit ungainly. Otherwise I like it a lot! Pair it with Wal-Mart's suspiciously inexpensive warranty ($50), and I'm a pretty happy puppy.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:18 pm        Reply with quote

I can vouch for HP laptops being shitty. I've had mine for about two years or so and it runs slow as shit, overheats when doing anything even minimally processor intensive (ie youtube videos??), and is noisy and unreliable.
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Kappuru
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:33 pm        Reply with quote

Try downloading speedfan, psiga, and lowering the fans RPM.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:35 pm        Reply with quote

i'd warn you though that a lot of laptop CPUs (i dunno about the celeron) run hot as fuck because of tight confines, and need that fan running like that to work correctly.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:55 pm        Reply with quote

manmachine plays jazz wrote:
i'd warn you though that a lot of laptop CPUs (i dunno about the celeron) run hot as fuck because of tight confines, and need that fan running like that to work correctly.


Yeah, the Core 2 in my Dell laptop at work hits 72~74C in an air-conditioned room when it's just sitting there sometimes (even with automatic throttling enabled). Not sure how that doesn't crash it, considering my desktop Core 2 will crash before it hits 65C.

Also, while I haven't tried it myself, I have a friend who seems to like Notebook Hardware Control.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:59 pm        Reply with quote

Thanks for recommending SpeedFan, Kap. I'll try it out.

The one time I checked the CPU temp, it was 40c, and the fans were 100%. They are always 100%, constantly. It's obnoxious.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:48 am        Reply with quote

your hardware should turn off to avoid damage, if the proc gets too hot.. besides, 60 or 70% is usally a hell of a lot less loud than 100%.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:10 am        Reply with quote

toshiba notebooks aren't too bad in the parts-for-money or ergonomics department, but be warned that they're pretty fragile and come with a lot of bloatware. asus is just about hands-down better nowadays.
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psiga
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:42 pm        Reply with quote

Felix wrote:
toshiba notebooks aren't too bad in the parts-for-money or ergonomics department, but be warned that they're pretty fragile and come with a lot of bloatware.

Mine wasn't so bad, honestly. For some reason they installed Google Desktop Search, which I probably wouldn't have, but if that's the worst thing I can say about what came pre-loaded, then hey. I think it has the usual Norton demos and things like that, which are easy to sweep away, but I wasn't getting a shitload of bloaty garbage all over the place or anything. Unless you wanna count Vista, ha ha ha etc.

Though yeah, I have heard good things about Asus in the past. I've had good experiences with Acer and Toshiba, too. Not a fan of Compaq or HP, unless they've made a conscious effort to change over the last year or so, which I'm not aware of.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:21 am        Reply with quote

I don't know shit about this shit, help me

I'm probably in the market for a cheap laptop. Would buying this be a bad idea? Seems like a good deal. I don't know anything about the brand though. One of the customer reviews says the battery only last an hour and a half. Did he just not take care of it or is that normal?

Or, I dunno, any suggestions?
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psiga
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:25 pm        Reply with quote

That one looks fine, honestly. I'd even say that it's an acceptable choice for Cuba to consider. As for battery life, just about everything in that range is going to have really dubious battery life.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:30 pm        Reply with quote

Hey guys, I'm the girlfriend who is in need of a new computer. Thanks for all the tips. In a round-about way, mostly through your suggestions, I found this Acer computer, which I just purchased. I'm pretty happy about finally owning a computer worthy of existing in this decade and can't wait to abandon this one.

Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:04 am        Reply with quote

Really solid choice!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:37 am        Reply with quote

holy fucking shit my girlfriend posted on selectbutton
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:48 am        Reply with quote

sup girl thread ^_~
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:56 am        Reply with quote

don't let joe talk to her :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:04 am        Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:07 pm        Reply with quote

The kind of Acer laptops I seem to like the looks of sell out fast, so I'm simply asking about a single facet.

I like the looks of this thing. I want something light, resistant, but still capable, essentially. So I'm wondering whether the Intel's GMA video cards are competent stuff?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:31 pm        Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:
The kind of Acer laptops I seem to like the looks of sell out fast, so I'm simply asking about a single facet.

I like the looks of this thing. I want something light, resistant, but still capable, essentially. So I'm wondering whether the Intel's GMA video cards are competent stuff?
They're good for anything that isn't 3D gaming. They're more than competent for the odd OpenGL/DirectX app, and dare I say it, faster than certain low-end Geforce/ATI mobile solutions that use shared memory. You should check the battery life on that Acer, however - if I recall, it's nothing amazing (a bit over 1 hour and a halfinternet says over 2 and a half hours, not bad), so take in account you'll drag that power brick everywhere.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:36 pm        Reply with quote

So, what? Half-LifeČ and Modern Warfare are out of the picture?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:37 pm        Reply with quote

I don't know what modern warfare is but Half Life 2 should be just fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:44 pm        Reply with quote

Call of Duty 4.

I wouldn't mind being able to play it on the go, and finally dick about with Team Fortress 2 with people.

I can live without these things, but I'm just curious.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:06 pm        Reply with quote

If you really like bloom and HDR and clicking on the "High" setting buttons on the video configuration pane, erm, then X3100 is not for you. It won't give you rock-steady framerate performance, either. Wouldn't advise any sort of FPS gaming, either. Search for "COD4 X3100" on youtube and you'll see what I mean.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:42 pm        Reply with quote

Takashi wrote:
Search for "COD4 X3100" on youtube and you'll see what I mean.

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Again, I could just as well live without. I don't mind having to play indie or ROM stuff until I get a 360 or a desktop proper.

And nah, I'm not into all that window-dressing mumbo-jumbo, really. If it doesn't look like a mess, and is clear to the eye, that's good enough for me.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:25 pm        Reply with quote

the x3100, basically, is the first intel chipset that's sort-of-viable for modern 3d stuff. it's not by any means good, but it's better than mine and everyone else's r300 derivates from ages ago, which is.. saying something.
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