[Harveyjames]

I don't give two shits about it either way, I just don't think he deserves the flak you're giving him.

BUT THEN I WOULD SAY THAT, I AM SO FAT ; _ ;

(that's me done in this thread by the way)
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[108]

hi k thor!
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[Kappuru]

Some of this criticism is rather harsh, but this is SB and it comes with the territory. As for your game, I think that some of the naysayers have a very good point.

You haven't shown much gameplay. I know, I know there's walking around and pressing the context sensitive a button. Where's the game? All this looks like at this point is talk-to-the person fetch quest land. I know there must be more.

Not that talking to people endlessly is bad, but the last time I honestly enjoyed that was Knights of the Old Republic's murder mystery. So aside from talking and finding items.. is there an actual game in here?
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[kthorjensen]

[kthorjensen]

[HJProject]

Seems like most people are just frustrated with the tired back and forth of


I made a game

Ok, show me

No, I made a game.

Can I see it?

You don't understand. I made a game.

I'd like to see it.

I was locked in my underground lair for 5 years. I was able to live by drinking water that dripped from a leaky pipe in the ceiling. And I made a game.

Sounds great. Let's see it.

I am only one person and I made a game ok.


It has less to do with the fact that you have to look at a shirt-less dude and more with the fact that game trailers don't show dudes sitting at computers no matter what the state of undress. If you came here to show your game then show it so we can be done with all this.

[Harveyjames]

[Talbain]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist%27s_Shit

Yeah, let's go there.
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[Focus]

[bleak]

kthorjensen has played bob's game all the way through and knows all about it
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[kthorjensen]

I have exactly the same information to go on as you do - the difference is that I am employing the tools of critical discernment whereas you are drowning yourself in a sea of recursive nostalgia. Point me to one thing in any of those videos or the myriad bloviatings of the creator that indicates that this is anything other than a dull slog through poorly-written text boxes with formulaic "puzzles" tossed in.
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[bleak]

look man i don't know who told you but unbridled cynicism isn't an acceptable substitute for genuine critical analysis
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[SuperWes]

[kthorjensen]

[kthorjensen]

Even more quotes:

"I obsessed over the thing for half a decade, there's parts that'll make you cry, there's parts that'll make your heart beat out of your chest. There are things that have never been done before, and things that have never been done quite so well."

This is a game that has, by the creator's own admission, NEVER BEEN PLAYTESTED BY ANOTHER LIVING PERSON. Do you really want to sit through twenty hours of dialogue written by this man?
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[bleak]

Do you honestly think that his game is going to read just like his press releases?
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[Focus]

I don't want bad grammar in video games.
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[bleak]

Square had a bit of a problem localizing games circa 1998. Even in spite of that, people still loved the shit out of them. I hated 'em*, but whatyagonnado.

*the translations, not the games themselves, though final fantasy 7 was pretty bad
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[kthorjensen]

Oh Jesus Christ, you really think I'm picking on the fucking GRAMMAR? Are you that obtuse?

"I obsessed over the thing for half a decade, there's parts that'll make you cry, there's parts that'll make your heart beat out of your chest. There are things that have never been done before, and things that have never been done quite so well."


Do I have to make that blink to make you get it?
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[glossolalia]

kthor whether the game is bad or not - and i'm fully willing to admit that it may be bad - you seem way, way too invested in it being bad. christ.

i mean, you're calling what is mostly cautious, critical discussion a "circlejerk" because it isn't quite as negative as your response.

[Tokyo Rude]

kthor is beating the point over the head.

[taidan]

Thanks for trying K Thor.

Let's have a beer.

Seems like this guy is getting attention simply by being persistent. If he wants to be so secretive and selective, he should have to wait for proper evaluation when he can deliver a proper build. Gamers are still f-ing software.

[ionustron]

I never understood the concept of hope for independent games being published. I think it's the money part of it.

Also sad about the RPGMaker hate in this thread. Though understandable, I always really enjoyed playing with 'makers for trying to get them to do effects they weren't intended to do...

Then again, I never used the PC platform ones.

[Daphaknee]

[108]

i don't know man shigesato itoi didn't release a single screenshot of mother 3 until two weeks before the game came out, and nintendo published absolutely no details on the game's plot, structure, flow, or . . . anything. all we knew was that the game would inhabit an established genre and do very little new on the mechanical front.

it turned out pretty well!
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[Cossix]

That's a really bad comparison!

I mean like

-Mother 3 was made by a team of people at NINTENDO. This was made by one guy in his mom's attic.
-Mother 3 was playtested. This has been played by AS FAR AS I AM AWARE no one
-Mother 3 is the third entry into an amazing series. Bob's Game is the first game this guy seems to have released.
-Robert isn't Itoi.
-Gameplay footage of this HAS been shown. Like 8-10 minutes or so of it. It basically shows you... walking around and talking to people, presumably for a lot of fedex quests.

And that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there's lots more that other people could come up with.

[gooktime]

"fedex quests"

I like that

[SuperWes]

[sawtooth]

holy cr*p i can move the camera :heartbeatsoutofchest:
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[monaco]

Tim, that was probably because they had already put up screenshots and movies of the game back in 1999, so maybe the 2 or 3 people who remembered those could wonder if Itoi was up to something new (instead of having one of the most fuck-amazing palettes in 2d games replace a n64esque world of vomit).
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[Red 0]

[zak]

[haze]

Eric Chahi made Another World by himself while living with his mother
it was also the first game he ever released

he MIGHT'VE taken his shirt off, but I'm not sure. [citation needed]

[Laurel Soup]

[rye]

I don't understand all the fuss. It looks like something someone could have pulled together in RPG maker. It sort of seems like you kind of just wanted to make this big world and populate it with characters, which is neat i guess, but i'm not sure if it makes a good game.

however, i shouldn't talk much shit i guess, since i haven't played it.

bob, upload a demo for us to try.

I will say, though: A major publisher will not pick this up. It's like pushing for EMI to release your experimental psych-folk album that you made in your basement. Just do what the Noitu Love 2 guy did and release it yourself.
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[rye]

[quote=]"fedex quests"[/quote]

make this a word filter.
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[chevluh]

[haze]

[chevluh]

I actually don't have any shirt-related data. I'll see what I can get.

I'm not sure what you mean by "released". AW was released by Delphine Software. He actually pitched it first to what would become Cryo, but they redirected him to his Delphine pals (from Future Wars). If you mean the game's designed and almost entirely done by him, his earlier Oric 1 games predate that.

Or are you talking about the 2005 rerelease? If so, yes it's the first and only game he released by himself, but yeah, it's really a rerelease.

[Mrow]

Bob might as well have designed Earthbound! Tim Rogers is a sped.

[Kappuru]