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Onideus_Mad_Hatter
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Really that's the exact thing that you say gets you so upset about poe users.
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Huh? PoEtards don't "upset" me in any way. On the contrary it's actually quite fun mocking them and their incredible hypocrisy.
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So why not just stop being a hypocritical douchebag and stop shitting up this place?
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Again with the blaming me for the way that *YOUR* posting. If you'll stop attacking me, I'll stop attacking you. And I've got no problems at all with continuing seeing as how I enjoy the invective word art aspects of it.
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Trolling is not masterful manipulative behavior because it involves the easiest responses to evoke from people.
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There are dozens of different types of trolls, tactics, etc. Not all trolls are designed to make you all angry and pissy and really, most people like yourself merely use that as an excuse for your bad behavior. I'm not "trolling" anyone here at all, those who are trying to attack me are doing it all on their own without any help from me at all.
Hrmmm...that reminds me of something I created a long, long time ago...
*searches*
Ughh...fucking picture maze...
*tries to remember the path*
*searches*
Ahhh, here it is, on the third floor:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_test_platform/old_insanity_now_site/_drinkme/3rd.html
Click on the computer. It's a bit out of date, but that describes some various forms of trolling, represented with video game sprites. I should change the disk link to like the Mother 3 rom instead of Zelda. LOL I really do need to remake that site. I don't remember how I created the labyrinth maze though...the picture maze should be fairly easy to replicate though.
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And being deliberately unlikeable so you never have to take a chance on people getting to know you is a kind of sad adolescent defense mechanism.
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Not really. I act a bit egotistical and certainly over the top, but most of the "unlikability" comes from lessers who retard onto Special ED and then believe everything they read. kirkjerk even admitted that he had been taken in. Rather than reading exactly what I wrote, in which I never claimed to be God's gift to graphic design or anything else, he had read on ED where *THEY* claimed that I had said I was God's gift to graphic design...and then automatically attributed that to what I had said here, even though I hadn't ever said it all in the first place.
I mean, honestly, all ya gotta do is *NOT* be attackful. Why should that be so difficult for people? Do you really think that if someone acts like a braggart that, that gives you the right to start poppin off at them with teh verbal fireworks? And then you act all fuckin surprised when they turn right around and start givin you the same in return? I told you right from the start *DON'T* fucking take me seriously, especially not anything I brag about or act like an egotistical bastard about. But, sho'nuff, several people just weren't the fuck paying any attention and started popping off in retardation (although I guess there is some speculation as to whether some of them had a history with me in some other froups and were just carrying their baggage on over to here).
Personally though, one of the reasons I act like an egotistical bastard is to weed out the lessers so to speak. There are over six BILLION people on this planet, so when it comes to friends one can and should be pretty discerning. Quite frankly I wouldn't *WANT* anyone to be my friend if they actually took this egoist crap seriously (especially not the fuck after I tell them point blank *NOT* to). To me it's almost a kind of a test, to see whether the Internet is ~serious~ business for you or not...and if it is, well fuck you, sincerely.
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Onid is so smart though, extrabastardformula, I mean his code is ABOVE professional, especially his yoga page. I mean I didn't know that I had flash player 0 installed, instead of flash player 10, that's a real shock and I thank him for letting me learn this through his brilliant site.
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*looks at source code for the yoga site*
meta name="copyright" content="Backwater Productions 2006"
...so Flash 10 was released before 2006 was it? LOL
Keep looking like an idiot, Sparkles. I'm not gettin tired laughing at your stupdity and I doubt anyone else is either.
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And there's nothing as smart as using flash for everything,
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Ahhh yes, I love this one, it's the mark of a perma-n00b, someone who visits websites but they really have no fuckin cl00 at all as to what it is they're even looking at. If Tulpa hadn't been such a dipshit she would have been able to tell that the majority of my sites use a form of web design called Flash LAMP or LAMP FX...a Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP backend with a Flash, XML front end. And in fact my main Backwater site is using VBScript, javascript, PHP, CSS and HTML in conjunction with Flash. Tulpa doesn't know the first thing about web coding, hell she doesn't even know how a web page works (it's all like magic to her), so obviously I'm not surprised by her idiocy here.
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I mean holy shit that's badass. Nothing's as usable as Flash with text that cannot be highlighted. I can see why his web design work is ubiquitous on the interernet!
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And again she shows off her retardation and lack of knowledge regarding everything web site related. It's very easy to make text selectable in Flash (assuming the developer wants you to be able to select the text). For example on my new CB site I made the the text in the lyrics section selectable...and I'll probably make the fanfic text selectable as well at some point here.
Really child, if there's something you think that *CAN'T* be done in Flash...it's not that it can't be done, it's just that you don't know how to do it. Your blazing ignorance is no hindrance at all to the capabilities of Flash and ActionScript 3.
Ultimately at this point Flash represents the be all and end all of website front ends. Here's a list of twenty things that can *ONLY* be done in Flash. A few of these ~technically~ can be done using very clunky javascript code however you'll run into a whole slew of problem regarding browser and OS detection and some will *ONLY* work on IE without the use of Flash:
1. Support of 32 bit JPEGs (more specifically you can import 32 bit PNG files, use JPEG compression on them and Flash will keep the transparency layer intact).
2. Fully cross operating system compatible with all major operating systems.
3. Fully cross browser compatible with all major browsers.
4. Support of the On2 VP6+ codecs.
5. Support of color matrices.
6. Support of audio spectrum analysis.
7. Support of alpha transparent video.
8. Fully cross browser support of alpha transparent image files (possible with a bunch of extra javascript...even then though there are compatibility issues and it's far less efficient).
9. The ability to track the number of bytes loaded on a particular object.
10. The ability to dynamically control the loading of media files
11. Direct connection to ports with the ability to "talk" directly with a particular protocols language.
12. Ability to analyze and manipulate image pixel data in a whole variety of ways. (Java/PHP are comparable in that respect)
13. Ability to stop a media file from being loaded during the loading process.
14. Ability to control the resizing of elements, being able to turn on and off smoothing for specific elements and making use of bilinear and bicubic resampling. (can be done with a combination of PHP and javascript, but it's less cross browser compatible and uses 10 times the amount of server resources and is about 700% slower, even with server side image caching.)
15. Fully custom cursors (can be done with SOME versions of IE using CSS, but even then yer limited to cur files and can't use larger images).
16. Custom context menus.
17. Custom scroll bars.
18. FIFTY TIMES FASTER than javascript when dealing with animated elements.
19. Custom video/audio controls (can be done ~somewhat~ with javascript but ONLY with certain browsers like IE...and even then with only about half the functionality that you can get with Flash.
20. Direct support, creation and control over vector based graphics.
There's TWENTY different things that can only be done with Flash. There's a couple that ~sorta~ can be done without it...but only if you want to make your sites so that they only function on Internet Explorer or overly bloated/clunky and frequently crashing...and even then you can't get ALL the functionality that Flash offers.
Even for just a PLAIN TEXT site Flash is VASTLY superior to using HTML and CSS; mostly cause you can use embedded fonts, you can have liquid sizable text as opposed to just liquid space stretched text and you get proper font antialiasing in Flash. And really, why bother with a deficient form of page styling like CSS when you can use its big brother, XML? Flash can be integrated easily with a whole variety of forms, including XML, PHP, even CSS, HTML and javascript.
Flash also takes up *WAY* less space than HTML, even for an incredibly basic site like this:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_test_platform/URAMORON.swf
(do note that Flash doesn't even require any HTML to work off of)
That was proven in this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.2600/msg/ba7201c5147d82dc
The guys identical version of the site in basic HTML with no meta tags or even header tags was 716 bytes. My Flash version of the site, which looked EXACTLY the same...only 280 bytes. And do note that the text is selectable, Moron.
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By the way that is such a charming description of me I think I should put it in my signature.
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The part about you being a three year old throwing a tantrum? Yeah, I thought that was pretty funny too...kinda sad though too. |
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Onideus_Mad_Hatter
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:06 am |
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Oh hey, for anyone who is tired of the grade school kiddies trying to muck things up with multiple embedded media files you can blister that tantrum right out of their little asses with this:
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Ness
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:07 am |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:15 am |
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"..." - terra, FFVI
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sawtooth
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"..." - terra, FFVI
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sawtooth
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:24 am |
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"..." - terra, FFVI
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CubaLibre
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:28 am |
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GET IT MAD HATTER ALICE IN WONDERLAND
that is some edgy shit
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:42 am |
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| Not really. I act a bit egotistical and certainly over the top, but most of the "unlikability" comes from lessers who retard onto Special ED and then believe everything they read. kirkjerk even admitted that he had been taken in. Rather than reading exactly what I wrote, in which I never claimed to be God's gift to graphic design or anything else, he had read on ED where *THEY* claimed that I had said I was God's gift to graphic design...and then automatically attributed that to what I had said here, even though I hadn't ever said it all in the first place. |
Well, I was surprised after that exchange to find that some details like "perfect liquid" were pretty much just like ED described...ED is grotesquely exagerrated, but most of the personal pages seem to have a root of truth. With your own admission of being a braggart, it's very easy to believe you've come across as "God's gift" to some community somewhere.
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| I mean, honestly, all ya gotta do is *NOT* be attackful. Why should that be so difficult for people? Do you really think that if someone acts like a braggart that, that gives you the right to start poppin off at them with teh verbal fireworks? |
It kind of does! It's, you know, not the way you approach a community you're not a part of. Like on Usenet -- you lurk, you make a post, on-topic, with the spirit of whatever group you're, another post, you establish your credentials, you build a reputation. I see some of your points but you can't totally disclaim responsibility, and blame it ALL on people you have a history with on other sites.
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| And then you act all fuckin surprised when they turn right around and start givin you the same in return? I told you right from the start *DON'T* fucking take me seriously, especially not anything I brag about or act like an egotistical bastard about. But, sho'nuff, several people just weren't the fuck paying any attention and started popping off in retardation |
But saying "ignore me, I might be acting like a delusional dickweed" really doesn't excuse acting like an delusional dickweed.
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| Onid is so smart though, extrabastardformula, I mean his code is ABOVE professional, especially his yoga page. I mean I didn't know that I had flash player 0 installed, instead of flash player 10, that's a real shock and I thank him for letting me learn this through his brilliant site. |
*looks at source code for the yoga site*
meta name="copyright" content="Backwater Productions 2006"
...so Flash 10 was released before 2006 was it? LOL
Keep looking like an idiot, Sparkles. I'm not gettin tired laughing at your stupdity and I doubt anyone else is either. |
For some reason switching to IE let me see the yoga site and I gotta side with Tulpa on this one. I don't think the Yoga site was doing anything that you wouldn't expect future versions of Flash to support - they're pretty good about backwards compatability, and I would expect a professional site to be reasonably future proof and use simple "this version or greater" logic.
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| Ultimately at this point Flash represents the be all and end all of website front ends. Here's a list of twenty things that can *ONLY* be done in Flash. A few of these ~technically~ can be done using very clunky javascript code however you'll run into a whole slew of problem regarding browser and OS detection and some will *ONLY* work on IE without the use of Flash: |
Here's something that can't be done in Flash: work on my fuckin' iPhone.
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| There's TWENTY different things that can only be done with Flash. There's a couple that ~sorta~ can be done without it...but only if you want to make your sites so that they only function on Internet Explorer or overly bloated/clunky and frequently crashing...and even then you can't get ALL the functionality that Flash offers. |
But almost nothing you list is that important for functional, useful, usable websites.
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| The guys identical version of the site in basic HTML with no meta tags or even header tags was 716 bytes. My Flash version of the site, which looked EXACTLY the same...only 280 bytes. And do note that the text is selectable, Moron. |
A. But I'll bet you for those 20 things you listed, the size goes up, up, up. That a single toy page is a bit smaller than an HTML equivalent doesn't matter so much, it's that Flash sites, to make themselves feel worthwhile, tend to throw in LOTS of shit
B. The typical Flash site will be a bitch to get SEO on. Even if Google is search SWF files, or looking at metakeywords, you're like at a severe disadvantage.
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:47 am |
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The game of breaking the page is fucking retarded.
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Ness
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:21 am |
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eskaibo
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:06 am |
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OK Bob forget what I said before this is the best game of 2009.
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robertpelloni
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:27 pm |
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Hey Chris-chan, my offer for SA still stands. I'd appreciate it.
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:09 pm |
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Lets see, this would need about 18 bumps to get it to a new page.
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:10 pm |
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another bump
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:11 pm |
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the quote bombing pretty much takes out firefox
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:12 pm |
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rips out the style sheets, or whatever.
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:13 pm |
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so i'm using a different browser with scripts disabled
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:16 pm |
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So I'm probably a sucker for trying to fix this thread
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:16 pm |
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since it wouldn't be that hard to rebreak
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:18 pm |
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i'm kind of throwing myself and the thread on the mercy of the rogue's gallery
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:23 pm |
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at some point i want to go back to where hatter started posting
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:24 pm |
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i'm not saying i'm a big fan
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:25 pm |
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but he's just obnoxious in the context of a forum, not meta-obnoxious in terms of trying to make the forum difficult to read
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:26 pm |
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it's weird, like a self-fulfilling prophecy thing
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:29 pm |
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the whole "we had to bomb this thread in order to save it" deal...
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:30 pm |
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i guess that's one of my habits. I try and take people at face value. give them the benefit of the doubt
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:30 pm |
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i don't want to sound like an emo fuck
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:32 pm |
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i find the "for chrissake don't try and have a conversation with it" attitude disturbing.
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:33 pm |
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on the other hand i disliked being used as "even kirkjerk was fooled at ED" meta-example--
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:36 pm |
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because i thought bringing out the ED page on women and black people as a rehetorical tactic of "if you think the information at ED is in any way based in truth, you're racist and sexist" was underhanded, and ED only works as well as it does when it's grounded in truth or pre-existing stereotypes.
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eskaibo
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:48 pm |
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kirkjerk, you seem very patient.
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kirkjerk
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:50 pm |
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I've been told it's a virtue.
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shrugtheironteacup
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:06 pm |
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I liked page 42.
It sounded like one of the chaotic walls of sound in ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space-era Spiritualized.
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belthegor
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:18 pm |
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posting in a legendary thread
*nods*
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eskaibo
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:01 pm |
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guys i don't think these auto-embeds are a good idea
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