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The only converters left with less than ~3 frames of input lag are getting harder and harder to find. Bottom line is that the Wii simply does not support the genre in the way the other consoles do, and the investment of the import price tag and the shitty Hori stick or even a decent converter do not really ever justify themselves again because TvC is all there is. Then after that you have to have another friend willing to bite the bullet too.

Placing it on the Wii may have won it some impulse buys, but it really seems to be about as unideal as possible in the bigger picture.

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A lot of the reason why the versus games have simplified special move input is because everything else about the games are so frenetic that it's pretty much the only thing that allows humans to still be able to play the damn things.

In any case, that TvC uses the appeal of its IP to its advantage in the same way the other versus games did before it just calls to mind the fact that nobody really pretends the other versus games aren't still ultimately pretty fucking impenetrably hardcore regardless of what concessions they seem to make to one fanbase or another. MvC2 was initially bitched at by purists as a pandering simplification when it trimmed itself down to four buttons, and now it's just about the most intimidating fighting game there is.

I just don't really get why more than zero words were spent in an attempt to hash this out. It's pretty simple. It's not surprising or wrong that the Wii successfully facilitates people who just enjoy having qcf+pp produce a large beam from a robot, and shit. It's also not surprising or wrong that there are people who will feel mildly alienated by the fact that because it's on the Wii, they might not be able to just use whatever stick they have lying around their house to play the game, if they are so inclined. That's about all there is to this.

Really.

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How did either of you get any of that out of him saying a decent player will be quick to punish openings (the kind of openings left by the big flashy laser attacks you guys are trying to establish entry-level players will enjoy relying on) with air combos?

I don't know how much of an issue this is anyway, though. With no online for the Japanese version and possible (but definitely shitty) online for the US version, people of drastically different skill levels are probably not going to be playing each other in this game very often in the first place.

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Maybe if you guys would say what you meant the first time around, you could avoid those kinds of redundancies.

And no, Beckham isn't analogous to an intermediate player. extralife's point was that SF4's rules are actually more forgiving in a beginner vs. intermediate context than TvC's are in the long run. Joe's point is that TvC is kinetically and mechanically more fun for a beginner to play period.

Basically, you're all arguing completely different interpretations of what "beginner-friendly" means and are happy to just keep talking over each other about mostly-unrelated things.

Edit: Yeah.

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Yeah. This covers it, though.

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The more breathing room between it and Blazblue's release the better, as far as I'm concerned. Wouldn't be surprised if that's what inclined them to push it back, actually.

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Top 3 most common childhood aspirations:

Fireman
Astronaut
On Cuba's Radar

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luvcraft,