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 Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:28 am |
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| I climed down a ladder in an area connected to the Guidance Gate and it disappeared behind me. There was a stone tablet at the bottom, but I had no way of reading it at the time. I imagine it was some kind of ancient veiled insult towards my n00bersc00berosity. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:41 pm |
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| Mr. Business wrote: |
| From what I've seen, the d-pad of a dual shock works extremely well with this game. I've been using one, and it has yet to steer me wrong. |
If I played this game with a gamepad, I doubt I would have accidentally discovered how to use the Goblet/Chalice/Whatever |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:27 pm |
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| Yep. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:48 pm |
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Grail (because it's an incredibly helpful item):
In the east side of the Guidance Gate is a room with two pushable blocks, and a skeleton against the east wall who mentions a "shortcut" between ruins. Push against the wall that he's lying against and you'll warp to the opposite side of the map, next to a block. Push the block on to the weight to open the chest that holds the Grail. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:12 pm |
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| Just read a bunch of tablets and you should be able to figure it out, I think. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:00 pm |
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| If you've already done the thing with the armor display, then you should be able to find the ankh jewel at this point by simply revisiting some rooms you haven't been to in a while. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:57 pm |
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| Dracko wrote: |
But does anyone know what those massive red eye blocks are? |
They're entrances to... other areas. You'll need another item to open them up. I'm sure you'll figure it out in time.
Toups: The game has two sets of files in the music directory - one set for the midi mode and one set for the PSG mode, which I imagine uses an emulated MSX sound format (.sgt). You can switch between the two modes via the options menu. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:59 am |
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| Yeah, it just looks like the 1.01 patch only fixes the changes between the original patch and the new one, but doesn't actually include everything that was in the original patch. So! I uploaded the original patch here for the time being. It should work for you. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:53 am |
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Spoiler answer time!
| professor_scissors wrote: |
I am another person who is stuck as all hell, and needs a nudge in the right direction!
I've defeated the first boss, haven't found any others. I've explored all but one of the rooms of the Mauloseum (I can't get to the last one), and I have no idea what I'm trying to do for the puzzle with the three pedestals. |
Try whipping the symbols in the pedestals.
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| I feel like I've come as far as I can in the Temple of the Sun without the Boots. I have a helmet, but can't explore most of the Spring of the Sky without a way to swim. |
The solution to all of the above problems lies within the Spring of the Sky, actually. First, you're going to have to get wet and take some damage in order to get the item that lets you breathe underwater. Obviously you can't live long enough to make it through the huge expanses of water that make up most of the area, but you can survive long enough to reach the chalice warp-point, and one other area that leads to where you need to go.
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| As a side note, there is a hand scanner available in a shop I found for 150 coins. Is this at all different from the hand scanner I have now, or is it a scam? |
It opens up another shop in the vincinity.
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| Incidentally, was I supposed to get some sort of item for killing the first boss? Because I didn't. |
Nope! (that's probably not a spoiler)
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| Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:00 am |
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| Get all the symbols to match up. Each set of symbols effects the area in a different way, as well. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:31 pm |
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| Oh no, it's just a fake that traps you in a tiny cage with no way out. It throws off the risk-reward balance by giving you no indication if something is a reward or not. |
Are you referring to that trap in the Temple of Moonlight? There's plenty of indication - there's a ceiling of spikes directly above the pedestal, and even when I tried it out for kicks thinking it was there to screw me and got trapped, I just reloaded, warped back and walked 4 rooms to where I was before-hand. The game has generally been extremely consistent about this so far in my experience.
I'm having a hard time relating to your complaints about the puzzles, though - I didn't have any trouble with the pedestal puzzle, for example, and every time you hit something and hear a pinging noise that means you probably have to use a different weapon to destroy it. Your comments about the controls are hard to argue with, but they strike me as being one of the things that make the game what it is inextricably, and if you find yourself incredibly frustrated by them to the point where you're not having fun any more, you should probably just stop now. I haven't run into a situation as difficult as the climb up the Spring of the Sky, but while you sounded incredibly frustrated by it, I just tried it a few times, made it to the top and thought that it was a very well paced and intense bit of platforming.
By the way mauve is there a way to get anywhere in the Confusion Gate via the entrance in the Temple of Moonlight, or do I have to find an alternate entrance via another area connected to the Graveyard? |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:55 am |
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Thanks for the nudges, mauve/klez.
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Some of the "find a hidden path" puzzles are annoying, though, especially when you get zapped for hitting a fairly innocent looking wall. Like that one in the Temple of the Sun in the room with the knife.
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Yeah, that room was total bullshit.
dmauro, you can download the original patch here. It should work for you. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:11 am |
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The solution to my problem was a genuine head-slapper.
EDIT: Ok, I got the endless key after suffering through some absolutely insane puzzles that made me want to punch someone. I am now slamming my head against this new one in the Endless Corridor. I think now would be a good time for a break. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:37 am |
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| klez wrote: |
| Deets: now it's a good time to read the manual again...also somewhere in the dungeon is a tablet with numbers, if you can relate that to the writings in la-mulana... |
Yeah, I figured I'd have to do something like that. I just felt kind of drained at the time (as dracko said in the gamer's quarter forum, you don't play La Mulana, you endure it). Problem solved now, though. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:27 am |
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Toups: Match 'em up, 3-of-a-kind. A tone will sound when you do. Then check the other areas. Stuff will have changed.
klez: Why did going through the Endless Corridor bring me to a ladder to nowhere at the bottom? If you could just flat-out tell me what I need to do to get the ladder to go somewhere, that would be great. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:45 am |
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| Another edit to deet: now that I'm thinking are you still on the "third" floor |
No, I went down to the bottom and cleared it out. There's a ladder down but it just hits nothing, so I assume I need another item to open it.
Edit: Ok, I made it to the Shrine of the Mother and it still doesn't feel like I'm anywhere near the end of the game. I'm beginning to really appreciate how remarkably well designed the game's structure is in terms of how non-linear it is, but goddamn, the game is just insanely huge. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:49 pm |
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professor scissors: Pretty much everything you mentioned requires a seal, except for the Endless Corridor, which requires an item that you won't get for a while. You'll want to try standing on top of the minecart at some point. The solution to the drain in the spring of the sky is in-between the two things you have already tried beating the fuck out of. It's small. You'll probably want to use shuriken.
Oh, and the glove increases the speed at which you push blocks. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:00 am |
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| dmauro wrote: |
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| Then just find a weight holder to open up the ruins. |
(I thought maybe they were hams)? |
Man, that's awesome. HAMS. I'm just going to refer to the weights as such from now on. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:35 pm |
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| Clueless Gamer wrote: |
La Mulana is truly a test of endurance. |
You have no idea. I mean, you seriously don't, if you're still in the Guidance Gate.
Speaking of which I need some pointers, klez/mauve: I'm in the Twin Labyrinths, and feel as if I'm at the verge of solving several puzzles on my own, but at the same time I'm really at a loss. I already found the ankh jewel, but there's a twin gate that I can't reach on either side near the top of the map. It seems like I should be able to get down there from somewhere else, but all of the usual stuff hasn't worked. There's also a block puzzle which I can't solve because I need a weapon that I don't have to break a wall open. It's in a room with a shop in the top right corner. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:17 am |
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| klez wrote: |
If you need spoiler:
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Ok, that solved it. I just didn't think to use the flare gun. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:31 pm |
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Bats are pretty much annoying forever. It doesn't matter what weapons you have when they blend into the background/water and are placed directly on places where you are likely to jump. This doesn't happen very often, but just enough to remind you that they're out there.
Also klez when the hell does the lamp of time recharge? I was terrified of saving my game in case I totally used up the one use I had of it ever and was screwed for life, as unlikely as that seemed. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:19 am |
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| Swimmy: I just now killed that dude. My lifebar is pretty much maxed out, I have all the weapons besides the super upgraded whip, over 150 spears, and he was still a pain in the ass. He never glitched out on me though. What I'm trying to say is that you should definitely come back later. Much later. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:33 am |
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I didn't kill that guy for a long, long time. If a boss has you stumped, chances are good that your best bet is to come back much later.
Also yeah, this game pretty much crushed by soul around the point when I finished going through the Goddess Tower. I don't know why, either. It's been significantly less annoying lately, but I can't muster up the strength to finish. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:56 am |
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| I uh, actually figured out the weight on the skeleton without getting help anywhere else. I looked up the solution to the 7-dias puzzle just so that I didn't run out of hams, though. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:08 pm |
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| You need an MSX rom combination that's listed in the manual to warp to back areas. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:00 am |
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| As it says in the manual, it plays a sound when you put both carts in. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:22 pm |
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| There are bombs in the Graveyard of the Giants, yeah, but you can only get to the area where they're held through an exit from somewhere else. So uh, don't worry about it too much. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:00 am |
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| alice wrote: |
does killing the guidance gate boss (which I just did) open up the gates in the twin labrynth?
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Nope.
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| is it worthwhile buying the bronze shield? |
Also no.
I uh, honestly can't remember the answers to your other two questions, haha. Sorry :( |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:51 pm |
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| The grapple claw is just a total pain in the ass to use effectively. You'll... get it eventually, but not before swearing and falling down a lot. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:19 pm |
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| Yes, sketchpanik, people have already asked the question about the star/moon/sun puzzle. Multiple times. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:41 am |
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| The best easy money cheat in the game is to just crack open all the pots you find, which will eventually lead you to 100-coins and other shit. Spending time to make 30 coins a go just seems like a waste of effort. Money isn't even that useful for the most part, anyway, at least in the sense that I always had enough money for the necessary items when they came up. At least, after I purchased the glyph reader and shit. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:37 am |
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| You might simply not be hitting the eye, alice. You have to whack the eye directly, which is hard to do and it can seem like you're just missing, especially when the eye closes and stuff. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:39 pm |
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| I stopped playing a while ago and have no intention of finishing, but I enjoyed what I played. The problem is that the game is just too damn long. You can only string the player along for so long before making breakthroughs against insane game-logic stops being satisfying. As far as I'm concerned, anyway. |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:19 am |
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[quote="klez"]
| dmauro wrote: |
The game is long but not THAT long. |
For a game of this genre and design, it's definitely THAT long. |
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:43 am |
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| I was under the impression that all or most of the people interested in playing did so earlier in the thread! |
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