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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject: Link to the Past out on VC -- |
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This and MST3K will help me through the flu.
Creating this topic as a public service announcement. This is one of the few games I've been agog that hasn't been available on VC yet. Now if they'll put out SMW and Super Metroid.... _________________
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aerisdead
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:16 pm |
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Link to the Past can suck my balls. _________________ "Did you read that mr. ignorant new games journalist? YOU JUST DON'T FUCKING GET IT. "
-Alex Kierkegaard, better known as "Pikachu", irrationally responding to the wonderful gentleman who wrote the post you just read. |
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Toto

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:17 pm |
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Yeah, well suck on this America, Australia got Mario Kart 64 today.
For the VC that is. |
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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Q*Bert Killscreen Nightmare
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:25 pm |
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| aerisdead wrote: |
| Link to the Past can suck my balls. |
Oh come now. LttP is the first game where the hero and player make strategic use of Stockholm Syndrome! A gameplay first! _________________
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JamesE banned
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:31 pm |
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| Adilegian wrote: |
| Oh come now. LttP is the first game where the hero and player make strategic use of Stockholm Syndrome! A gameplay first! |
I try and do this whenever I LARP |
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Cossix submersible administrator

Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Location: San Jose
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:29 pm |
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| I don't see why this is a huge deal considering it just came out on the GBA a while ago and it's still really available with like bonus optional shit? |
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Deets

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:13 pm |
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The GBA version has link yelling every time you swing-a the sword, and the bonus optional shit requires multiple GBAs and copies of the game, so. It's also almost certainly more than $8, and you can't just download it onto your wii, y'know?
It's not a big deal, but it's certainly a good game unless your heart is cold, black and made of basalt or something. Basically, the fact that it's a huge Nintendo 1st-party game on the VC after weeks of niche-shooting games and shit is a big enough deal for most people to care. |
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aerisdead
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:31 pm |
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You can play the GBA version while someone else watches the TV though
Also you can trade it away/throw it down a well when you realize how annoying it is
You're stuck with it 4 lyfe if you get it on the Wii _________________ "Did you read that mr. ignorant new games journalist? YOU JUST DON'T FUCKING GET IT. "
-Alex Kierkegaard, better known as "Pikachu", irrationally responding to the wonderful gentleman who wrote the post you just read. |
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Deets

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:34 pm |
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| I'm really not seeing what's more annoying about A Link to the Past in comparison to every other modern Zelda game - or at all, really. |
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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Q*Bert Killscreen Nightmare
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:29 pm |
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| Cossix wrote: |
| I don't see why this is a huge deal considering it just came out on the GBA a while ago and it's still really available with like bonus optional shit? |
Because this is the most recent Nintendo handheld system I own:
Hiding your garishly painted stuff from summer camp counselors ITT _________________
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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Cobrastan
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:45 pm |
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| Adilegian wrote: |
this is the most recent Nintendo handheld system I own:
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My mind reels that you own a Wii but no DS or even GBA. |
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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Q*Bert Killscreen Nightmare
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:20 pm |
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| luvcraft wrote: |
| My mind reels that you own a Wii but no DS or even GBA. |
When the GBA came out, I was living in a camper with no running water in the middle of a subtropical forest in Florida--on-site grounds crew--with only a filthy dog named Raffikki for my daily company, so I wasn't wholly of the means to keep up with a portable console at the time.
Can't really tell you why I don't own a DS, though. _________________
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another coma NeoGAF Reject

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: the wrong museum
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:58 pm |
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I know I could make it through the whole game again on nostalgia alone (which probably isn't a great reason to buy anything since I've played it so many times), but I've been thinking about suggesting the game to my girlfriend as a kind of experiment - to see how far she might get in it before totally losing interest - after she's done with Twilight Princess. I'm seriously thinking this will be somewhere around the outside of Link's house. _________________
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Mr Stegosaurus
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:13 pm |
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| I'm seriously thinking this will be somewhere around the outside of Link's house. |
That's exactly where I lose interest too. I don't know what happened -- I loved this game when I was a kid.
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| LttP is the first game where the hero and player make strategic use of Stockholm Syndrome! A gameplay first! |
Are ... are you talking about capturing the bees? What are you talking about? |
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remote

Joined: 11 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:33 pm |
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Oh, man. Now when I see "VC" I don't think Virtual Console — I think VanCleef.
What has become of me _________________
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RyogAkari

Joined: 22 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:43 pm |
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| Adilegian wrote: |
| luvcraft wrote: |
| My mind reels that you own a Wii but no DS or even GBA. |
When the GBA came out, I was living in a camper with no running water in the middle of a subtropical forest in Florida--on-site grounds crew--with only a filthy dog named Raffikki for my daily company, so I wasn't wholly of the means to keep up with a portable console at the time. |
I had a similar experience. It was around the time of the gas crisis from the Gulf War. My dad lost his job as a manager of a plastic company (need oil to make plastic) and we lived poorly for a long time. I had an NES and a Gameboy and played the living shit out of them, but when we couldn't afford new consoles, we couldn't afford it. We didnt get another system until late in the N64's life but by then I had gotten used to not playing games. It wasn't until college when Halo came out that I got back into video games and had a surge of obsession that led me to buy multithousand dollar arcade machines and every game and console I could get my hands on.
Anyway, I've been playing LttP on my super nintendo recently and am going to be getting it for the Wii. I'd much rather play it on a TV than a handheld (though my wife and I did own a couple of copies of LttP to play 4 swords). I'm still holding out for ChronoTrigger, but I'm not too hopefull being that it's a major 3rd party game. |
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diplo

Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Location: Brandy Brendo's bungalow
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:47 pm |
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| Cossix wrote: |
| I don't see why this is a huge deal considering it just came out on the GBA a while ago and it's still really available with like bonus optional shit? |
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rabite gets whacked!

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:00 pm |
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| diplo wrote: |
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Broco

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Headquarters
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:44 am |
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| RyogAkari wrote: |
Anyway, I've been playing LttP on my super nintendo recently and am going to be getting it for the Wii. I'd much rather play it on a TV than a handheld (though my wife and I did own a couple of copies of LttP to play 4 swords). I'm still holding out for ChronoTrigger, but I'm not too hopefull being that it's a major 3rd party game. |
Yeah, I suspect Square has got something bigger in mind for CT. I'm actually rather surprised they've done so little with the game so far, seeing as it's arguably their best. Why are we seeing endless Final Fantasy rereleases and inferior Secret of Mana sequels but nothing Chrono Trigger-related? Not that I'm complaining, mind you. |
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Intentionally Wrong

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:15 am |
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Every time discussion of Chrono Trigger and the prospect of sequels come up, I am compelled to link this feature. _________________ JSNLV is frequently and intentionally wrong. |
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haircute heteronormative jerk

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Topeka, KS
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:42 am |
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| aerisdead wrote: |
You can play the GBA version while someone else watches the TV though
Also you can trade it away/throw it down a well when you realize how annoying it is
You're stuck with it 4 lyfe if you get it on the Wii |
Christ. Get a small tv for like fifty bucks from anywhere?
What is wrong with you? _________________ Get Wild and Tough! |
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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Q*Bert Killscreen Nightmare
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:23 pm |
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| Mr Stegosaurus wrote: |
| Are ... are you talking about capturing the bees? What are you talking about? |
I'm talking about the faeries. I'm always struck by the discord between (1) Link's capture of the faerie and (2) their regard for the situation. I don't imagine any of them would be terribly happy! Especially after having been gored by the Hookshot, as I like to procure them in LttP.
What I'm saying is that some powerful neurosis must reside in their mystic, mystic minds that leads them to help the manboy who kept them in a glass bottle under duress.
| RyogAkari wrote: |
| I had a similar experience. It was around the time of the gas crisis from the Gulf War. My dad lost his job as a manager of a plastic company (need oil to make plastic) and we lived poorly for a long time. I had an NES and a Gameboy and played the living shit out of them, but when we couldn't afford new consoles, we couldn't afford it. We didnt get another system until late in the N64's life but by then I had gotten used to not playing games. It wasn't until college when Halo came out that I got back into video games and had a surge of obsession that led me to buy multithousand dollar arcade machines and every game and console I could get my hands on. |
Ouch! Yeah, I finally saved up enough to buy a Gamecube when REmake came out, and that was pretty much the only franchise I was interested in pursuing at the time. I figured it would make sense since (I figured, based on my research at the Brandon Public Library) all of that generation's Resident Evil games were getting released on the GCN. Woo!
One time I was playing REmake in that camper when the following things happened at once: a Floridian cockroach ran across my foot; I spotted a vinegaroon in the corner of the "kitchen;" a fox clumsily ran into the golf cart parked outside; and Raffikki (formerly mentioned freondeshund) went batshit crazy because THERE IT IS THERE IT IS THERE IT IS. This was around the time that my first Crimson Head/V-ACT came back to life. Talk about tense gaming!
EDIT: This, by the way, is a vinegaroon.
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aerisdead
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:26 pm |
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Christ. Get a small tv for like fifty bucks from anywhere?
What is wrong with you? |
I like having only one TV in my apartment
what is wrong wit chu _________________ "Did you read that mr. ignorant new games journalist? YOU JUST DON'T FUCKING GET IT. "
-Alex Kierkegaard, better known as "Pikachu", irrationally responding to the wonderful gentleman who wrote the post you just read. |
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Rud31 forum ruler of Iraq

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: SanAnTex
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DaleNixon

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: dirty dirty south
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:26 pm |
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| Adilegian wrote: |
EDIT: This, by the way, is a vinegaroon.
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Oh sweet Jesus! I would have burned the place down. I once put a shoe on and noticed a scorpion climbing up the front of it. I swear I thumped him 40 feet down the hall. _________________
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sethsez
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:43 pm |
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| Rud13 wrote: |
| Intentionally Wrong wrote: |
| Every time discussion of Chrono Trigger and the prospect of sequels come up, I am compelled to link this feature. |
Oh OK. I guess I made the right decision in never playing Chrono Cross. |
Yep.
The other problem is that between Cross and Trigger, an absolutely massive amount of time and space has been covered. Hell, it even covered alternate dimensions and dead timelines. There's really nowhere to cram another story worthy of the Chrono name without contradicting the previous games in some fashion, or bending backwards trying to accommodate them and in the process making a boring, contrived plot. Unless it takes place on a different planet or something, I'm not really sure how Square could continue the series in a satisfactory way. |
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skelethulu

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: OAKLAND
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:12 pm |
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| sethsez wrote: |
| I'm not really sure how Square could continue the series in a satisfactory way. |
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| it takes place on a different planet or something |
Problem solved. Chrono Break might have been good! Or, at least, would have had good music. |
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Persona-sama artistically unofficial

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: cosmic eternity
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:54 am |
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Guys, I just put an hour and half into LTTP using a freshly bought Classic Controller since I didn't have an old Gamecube controller lying around. I just conquered some jumping statues and unearthed from their remains a Pendant of Courage and I am now booking it to the East of Lake Hylia to do something I totally don't remember to do.
Playing through Zelda again after all these years makes me feel like some kind of speed-running pro, dodging obstacles and blowing open secret passageways as if it was second nature. It does make me kind of sad discovering how easy everything is now when before I had such difficultly just crossing a dungeon, not to mention the unwavering fear that shook me when I heard that menacing beeping of having only one heart left. Damn this growing older and improving hand-eye coordination business.
Anyway, it felt mighty good to move little Link around on an analog stick. I kept pressing A instead of B to swing the sword though; I blame the Gameboy version for throwing me off. Still, the controller is really nice and I hope new Wii games actually get developed to use the thing as it's pretty solid and very comfortable. I was originally thinking that LttP would be just fine on a Wiimote, and was really annoyed I needed a GC or Classic Controller to play it, but now I'm very satisfied that I went out and just bought the controller since I can use it to play the other VC games in comfort. I just wonder if it drains the Wiimote's batteries any faster than using the Wiimote itself.
SO IN CONCLUSION, Classic Controller is boss and Link to the Past is pretty easy but still charming. _________________
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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:05 pm |
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I almost forgot about this thread!
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| Oh sweet Jesus! I would have burned the place down. I once put a shoe on and noticed a scorpion climbing up the front of it. I swear I thumped him 40 feet down the hall. |
Tell me about it! I looked up info on this thing the very next day, and I discovered a few things that helped me disinfect the place. Basically, vinegaroons are almost entirely harmless. They look ferocious, but their only real defense is to spray a vinegar-smelling substance lightly around them. It's not even poisonous! It's just mildly stinky.
I got a shovel off the maintenance golf cart parked out front, hefted him into it, and slung him WAY the hell into the very dark forest. (I killed a coral snake once while I was down there and never felt right about it, so I didn't want to kill the vinegaroon just because it was...well, doing whatever it was doing in my goddamn kitchen.)
| Persona-sama wrote: |
| SO IN CONCLUSION, Classic Controller is boss and Link to the Past is pretty easy but still charming. |
I need a Classic Controller for Contra III. Having that massive green A-button between the Fire button and the (sometimes) clitoral B-button just doesn't work. _________________
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negativedge banned
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:11 pm |
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| antitype wrote: |
Oh, man. Now when I see "VC" I don't think Virtual Console — I think VanCleef.
What has become of me |
Just wait until your character pops into your head whenever you read or hear the word "wow" /cry |
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Felix unofficial repository
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: vancouver
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:05 pm |
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| Adilegian wrote: |
| I need a Classic Controller for Contra III. Having that massive green A-button between the Fire button and the (sometimes) clitoral B-button just doesn't work. |
yeah, snes is the only console where they were obstinate enough to do button name-for-button name mapping, which is not really the best idea in the world if you're going to rotate them all one step clockwise. |
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Toups tyranically banal

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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:40 pm |
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| Rud13 wrote: |
| Intentionally Wrong wrote: |
| Every time discussion of Chrono Trigger and the prospect of sequels come up, I am compelled to link this feature. |
Oh OK. I guess I made the right decision in never playing Chrono Cross. |
Fuck, now I want to play Chrono Cross.
It sounds like Final Fantasy 8 on CRACK _________________
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Felix unofficial repository
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: vancouver
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:18 pm |
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i actually really, really love chrono cross.
tell me if this makes any sense:
in the same way that dq7 and 8 are diametrically opposed archetypal jrpgs, chrono trigger and chrono cross are diametrically opposed archetypal jrpgs.
i've written this same not-quite-snappy line too many times on various iterations of IC by now, but: at one point you kill a giant robot named FATE and as such the characters are suddenly free to make all of their own decisions from then on, only nothing ever really comes of it; might just be a translation oversight but tell me that's not some wonderful videogame symbolism.
also, the music is totally wonderful. i really like chrono cross.
then again, i also really like golden sun (and uh in retrospect haven't really enjoyed a straight jrpg since then), so what do i know. |
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Toto

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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:13 pm |
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| I agree with Ethnoscapade, I really enjoyed Chrono Cross, and the combat made you think (if only for 5 minutes). |
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Intentionally Wrong

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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:33 pm |
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I'm going to attempt to be coherent.
Chrono Cross demonstrates how not to do optional content.
Look at the system for equipping your characters with magic and abilities. At first, the system looks like a handy way to customize and modify your characters--until you realize that most of your modifications are arbitrary decisions made in the service of, maybe... two effective character builds. A dedicated enthusiast can and probably will contradict me, but that only serves to reinforce my underlying point: these ability frameworks would be more compelling if they were an immutable part of the character. (Then you'd even have a reason to have all those characters!) The system as it stands is almost pointless. Why bother spending five minutes to manually assign elemental attacks to your grid, when using the Autofill option results in nearly identical effectiveness?
(Don't even get me started on the parasitic bartering system. If your hoop-jumping exercise is only meaningful because it allows another hoop-jumping exercise to work, you might want to rethink your design.) _________________ JSNLV is frequently and intentionally wrong. |
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special blend

Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:22 am |
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Also -- and this is one of my favorite games here -- it's kind of bullshit that there are around 40 characters, yet only 8 dual techs and 3 triple techs. _________________ http://portuguesefoodbank.blogspot.ca/
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Mr. Apol king of zembla

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:22 am |
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guys i like link to the past does this make me uncool in the eyes of insert credit _________________
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aerisdead
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:32 pm |
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yes _________________ "Did you read that mr. ignorant new games journalist? YOU JUST DON'T FUCKING GET IT. "
-Alex Kierkegaard, better known as "Pikachu", irrationally responding to the wonderful gentleman who wrote the post you just read. |
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