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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:10 am    Post subject: Pinball - My Analog Obsession    Reply with quote

Is anyone else a pinball fan? I've been getting pretty obsessed with it lately, though not in a collector sense... i'll just dump around $10 on any pinball machine i find, improve my skills, etc. There's something so tactile about it. I spend my days on the computer and go home to my PS2 (via my DS) but pinball is physical and real
there's also the attraction of mastering a sorta arcane skill. i guess you could compare it to schump players, though i'm only moderatly skilled
there are probably lessons that can be learned for game design in pinball, though i'm not sure what they are. its worth noting the game has a seemingly high degree of randomness, though as you get farther into it you realize how much conrol the player has
also: are there any good pinball simulations? i think they defeat the point but i'd love games that expand the pinball concept, like those two with the aliens and the fantasy thing

inspired by one of des' blog post:


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and while we’re stepping outside the realm of strictly digital games, the lucky juju pinball museum is both a wonderful place and a wonderful institution. pinball games are interesting to me because they’re conceptually similiar, in some ways, to videogames - they both involve the manipulation of an avatar (the ball) through a designed space to complete goals - but the physics that drive the game are the same physics that make our hearts beat and our world spin. they’re not artificial, they’re physical.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:02 am        Reply with quote

chompers po pable wrote:
you could download alien crush and devil crash to tide you over between forays. seems like the keyboard input would be fine, if not ideal.


those are the games... i've played them and i'd love an updated version
but honestly i love pinball games because they AREN'T videogames. they're tactile and clanky and analog and REAL
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:31 pm        Reply with quote

shnozlak wrote:
Judge Ito wrote:
The T2 machine is both godly and legendary. It could be because I've had very little exposure to pinball machines...

When I somehow managed to get Visual PinMAME going a few years ago (which seemed to be an incredibly convoluted process) I played the fuck out of Black Knight 2000. The soundtrack was incredible, and it was the first table I was ever able to master.


Dose the emulated black Knight throw the ball around? I loved that table becasue you could launch the ball on top of everything yet it never seems to get stuck.

Has anyone here played the extra huge LOTR tables? Ive yet to run into them But I have seen an interview with the creators and they look pretty snazzy.


yeah... Sydney is amazing for pinball. i've played Adams Family, Twilight Zone, Austin Powers, LOTOR (giant Balrog!), Guns N Roses, Theatre of Magic... heaps
there was a gay bar that had like 20 pinball tables but it got shut down (i'm not sure why. sydney's really gay friendly, so it wasn't 'cause of that) but the pinball tables circulate around all the local venues and pubs, which is neat. i see alot of live music so once i've mastered, say, Adams Family or Austin Powers its cool to have it replaced by something else
i love the feeling of mastery i get. if you put me on Street Figher 2 i'll be beaten by anybody but put me on pinball and i can usually hold my own
i've played Metroid Prime pinball and Pokemon Pinball and they're fun but i dunno... i want computer pinball to be more insane. anyone played that pinball RTS that came out for the computer? is it any good?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:23 am        Reply with quote

Mikey wrote:
http://www.pinball.com/games/bash/


yeah i played that in Melbourne at a venue called the Arthouse... its a little place that has alot of punk and metal shows
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:26 am        Reply with quote

boagman wrote:
Tlon wrote:
yeah... Sydney is amazing for pinball. i've played Adams Family, Twilight Zone, Austin Powers, LOTOR (giant Balrog!), Guns N Roses, Theatre of Magic... heaps


Oz was great for pin when I was there, that's for sure! Absolutely loved being there, and playing a pin in a gambling parlor, *for money*, was one of the highlights of my pinball-playing "career". Nothing like being *paid* to win. And on World Cup Soccer, of all games. Why not just give me the money up front?

But yeah: Sydney rocked for more than just pinball reasons, but it certainly did rock for pinball.


er, how else does it rock? great pub rock bands that are constantly ignored? overpriced food? unforgiving heat?
but yeah pinball was originally a gambling game in the States
Australians love gambling... they've got electroic poker machines ('pokies') in every pub... horrible little things

i'd love Nintendo to come out with Wii Pinball. motion control tilt sensor. insane tables that bare very little relation to real physics. stupid amounts of Nintendo fan service
basically, Super Smash Brothers for pinball
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:43 pm        Reply with quote

yeah South Park pinball has easy multiball - Mr Hanky and Kenny. or Chef
i can usually go for an hour on most pinball machines
Austin Powers, South Park, LOTR... all really fun
but man i think pinball would actually benefit from the Nintendo Mascot Fanservice Treatment. its a simple game, so assuming the ball physics are decent it would be hard to screw up....
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:18 am        Reply with quote

i've got a vision of pinball combined some some sort of isometric Sim City thing where the movement of the pinball triggers random shit like monster attacks
im not sure if it makes sense but i see it as a casual flash game type thing using pinball as the mechanism to interact with sprite art
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:39 am        Reply with quote

that game is so shit as a pinball game. and as a videgame. and as a sucessor to minsweeper/mousetrap/solitaire
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:23 pm        Reply with quote

i got a high score on Theatre of Magic this weekend! But i used a continue so its on a second high score board so i'm not fully elite

anyone ever 'beat' a table? i haven't...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:25 pm        Reply with quote

i went out to a pub with the gal i've been in love with for like 11 months on thursday but i still had to stop and play Twilight Zone 'cause its Twilight Zone
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:33 am        Reply with quote

well my friend's girlfriend is a big pinball fan so there will be challenges
but yeah i should take a picture of the room in that pub.. its got Twilight Zone and like 8 other machines
there's a nice construction themed machine at the station i'm at now
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:07 am        Reply with quote

its owned by local singer/songwriter/twee pop guy Darren Hanlon, who lends it to the station
i once interviewed a local band and halfway through the (live on air) interview we ran out of stuff to talk about so we just talked pinball. it was really fun
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:46 am        Reply with quote

oooh nice! i should put something like that together
i'm trying to convince my hosts to let me do a thing on Cult Gaming but they're pretty old... they love cult movies but don't really like games
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:42 am        Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:52 am        Reply with quote

http://cheeptalk.wordpress.com/2009/11/17/the-economics-of-pinball/
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:45 am        Reply with quote

Mario's Pinball Adventure for the GBA is pretty fun! nice bold graphics and cool adventury bits, though all the playfields are a bit small and so far consist of 'beat these enemies'. still it knows its a videogame and dosen't even try to simulate real pinball

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hot-Pinball-Rock-Vol-1/dp/B00004THNV/ - check this shit. bands like the White Stripes and The Bellrays recording pinball themed songs for Multiball Magazine

found it while looking for a good iPhone pinball game
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:29 pm        Reply with quote

http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/pinball/pinball1.html McSweeney's has a pinball column. neat~
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