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[Dracko]

I'm actually more worried about it slavishly following its predecessor as far its story and themes go; Millennial angst and Illuminatus! nods and pastiches aren't as compelling or relevant as they were a decade ago.

That and potentially under-delivering on its apparent openness and variety if the previews are to be believed, but this was also an issue with the original, which slowly but surely seemed to peter out on just how consequential your actions ultimately are or even just how many options were at your disposal in overcoming obstacles.
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[ella guro]

[Iacus]

[ella guro]

[Iacus]

[ella guro]

[shrugtheironteacup]

all is vanity
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[Dracko]

[BotageL]

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/deusex3/video/6304183/deus-ex-human-revolution-gameplay-walkthrough-trailer

Still not a fan of the distance and range at which useable objects are highlighted. I ain't got a problem with usable object highlighting in Deus Ex -- it was all over the original -- but I'd prefer an option to make it behave like it does in the original. Highlight usable objects when they're in range to be activated and the crosshairs are near/over the object, and not any other time.
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[Dracko]

Thankfully the highlighting doesn't look as awful as the leaked footage made it appear. I can easily imagine that if there isn't an option to remove it in-game, it'll be one of the first things modders tackle.

That was a pretty short introduction, though. Good to see some unadulterated footage for sure, and the Pritchard rivalry got a chuckle (he even looks like a prick), but it only really materialised the core basics we already knew about. Hopefully they'll give more in-depth demonstration down the road, since there's nothing at this juncture to alleviate any fears of it being too simple or closed-up.

Yeah, it's the first concrete mission and all, but they only showed off a route within the centre proper and I still fondly remember how much playtime I got out of the original Deus Ex's Liberty Island demo.

It does look neat however that even the direct combat approach seems to be tempered by a degree of stealth and toying with the enemy.
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[Mr. Mechanical]

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=117122

Apparently the glow on the interactable objects cannot be turned off. Damn. Not a good sign, hopefully there'll be a mod to turn it off.
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[Mikey]

This all just reminds me of the sparkling loot in Thief 3 which didn't turn out to be that much of a big deal, in the end.

[internisus]

[Dracko]

Just like Deus Ex, then.
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[BotageL]

Yeah, again, the only real difference here is that Deus Ex was slightly more subtle about it. Not that I don't miss the subtlety.
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[internisus]

[Dracko]

You'd think even justifying it as part of his augmented reality upgrades, Jensen could toggle it off. Hell, even a straight-up shooter like ODST offered that much. Even this late in development they should be able to implement such a thing. They already can via their debug menus, if much earlier leaked footage is anything to go by.

Or maybe it isn't and is thus a clever meta-comment against encroaching capitalism and later in the game you have to deal with invasive spam blurring your HUD! (This won't happen.)

I would say that though that purely in contrast to the original game, the interface does appear to be overall less busy. But on its own merits? Yeah, it's not inspiring total confidence about what they're going for.

Not sure about what you mean by creativity in this instance nonetheless, internisus. There's always going to be limitations on just what you and can not interact with, especially in a game like this. Just because such things are clearly indicated doesn't mean you can't find novel ways how to use them (For instance, designers found out via playtesting that some players would use bodies to clear minefields, or that you could keep tossing items at turrets and that this actually did chip away at their health and lead to their destruction overtime. I'm actually curious whether explosive barrels and crates will have similar properties as in the first game, where you had to be careful putting them down because if thrown from too high, they'd detonate).

Oh, and here's that walkthrough embedded:


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[Tulpa]

I feel that no game that adds a minimap where the original had none could be said to have a less busy interface.

In any case, minimap, constant button prompts, constant mini cutscenes for the takedowns, and the total death of exploration because everything is glowing is kind of exactly why everyone was skeptical in the first place.
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[Levi]

Have I already mentioned that it confuses me they'd decide to make this a first person game and then constantly be going into third person?

[Dracko]

[internisus]

[Tulpa]

yeah the only really egregious thing in the original hud is the inventory toolbar and that's the only real improvement HR has over the old hud. Everything else in the HR hud is busy worthless garbage. An ever present TUTORIAL AVAILABLE block, a minimap, an irrelevant objective marker, contextual button prompts. This is Nextgen AAA bullshit: the hud. I'm surprised they trusted the players enough not to put a STEALTH marker for the stealth route, an EXPLORATION marker for the exploration route in addition to the ACTION marker that functions as a default.
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[internisus]

[Dracko]

[Tulpa]

No game should have minimaps or objective markers as a start.

I don't fathom how the redundancy of having an always visible minimap AND an on screen augmented reality display showing the exact same information gets a pass. Even Bioshock didn't stoop to using a minimap.
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[Dracko]

Not a Metal Gear Solid fan, then?
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[Tulpa]

I've only ever played the first one so I can't say.
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[shrugtheironteacup]

WHY DON'T YOU JUST BURN MY DAMN HOUSE DOWN UBISOFT
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[internisus]

[analogos]

[ella guro]

[Dracko]

Call of Duty :(

Seriousness aside though, I'm still hopeful. I just think it was an inept walkthrough, especially since they stop it just when you enter a seemingly vaster environment where things have more potential to be interesting. It'd be like if they demoed the original Deus Ex with the first minute of the gas station hostage situation or the MJ12 facility when you first enter Hong Kong.


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[Iacus]

Minimaps have their place, sometimes. It can work in the right context.

That said, I'm not usually one to decry dumbing down or "consolification", but the constant button prompts and even highlighting the ladders it's a bit much. Too bad it can't be turned off. Even Mirror's Edge let you do that.
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[Dracko]

ahahaha the ending



This is a game with a serious tone, and you can kill people by throwing guns at them. 8)

Definitely getting echoes of the Yakuza massacre scene in Innocence.
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[smartblue]

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=117197

A poll is going on right now that could impact how highlighting works in this game.
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[Mr. Mechanical]

[negativedge]

it's just part of the gross misunderstanding of the source material that this game exhibits. the band down the street might do a dead-perfect cover of your favorite song, but they still suck. I mean, they're reading the back of Deus Ex's box just fine, but I don't think they're really playing the game.

[smeggy]

plato taught us that art is mere imitation, an inferior copy of reality. let us assume for the sake of our argument that Deus Ex is "reality", and as reality goes it is pretty fuckin sweet. any copy of that sweet reality is only that: a copy, and being a copy of another thing (with value) it is inherently without substance or value. we can say, definitively, without ever having substantive experience of this copy, that it is an absolute pile of dog shit and dismiss it for all of time. ergo: if you anticipate this game you are pathetic.

[negativedge]

flattered