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Dracko
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Where are the retarded Obama supporter videos?
Incidentally, I like that people have this idea that a terrorist would be able to run for candidate for any extended period of time.
You know, like that's something that would be allowed to happen in the real world, and not an Arny movie.
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DonMarco
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:51 am |
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C'mon, man. You know they asked 50 people the same questions over a span of three hours. Then picked the best shots and responses. I've been to McCain and Obama parties, and for the most part they're all pretty well informed and able to rationally explain their opinions.
"Don't answer his questions unless he submits them in writing" was probably the best part.
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| Where are the retarded Obama supporter videos? |
The fun starts at 1:47. This was during the primaries, but it still counts because the interviewees were Democrats.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:06 am |
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Dracko
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taidan
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:03 pm |
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Holy...
Bless you Dracko. |
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Broseph Stalin
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Oh Sonichu~ <3<3<3
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rabite gets whacked!
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:39 pm |
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Why does it go from bottom to top?
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boojiboy7
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:46 pm |
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it doesn't.
obama controls spacetime. |
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rabite gets whacked!
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:51 pm |
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Oh, so he is the Prince of Persia.
His middle name's Hussein! Why didn't I see it before? Terrorist Arab scum!
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CubaLibre
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:42 pm |
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| rabite gets whacked! wrote: |
| Oh, so he is the Prince of Persia. |
ahahaha
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:32 pm |
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it doesn't.
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Yeah, this is getting fucking ridiculous. McCain's really a piece of shit, not condemning this stuff, even as people yell "kill him!" and "hang him!" during speeches.
At this point he's just ruining his reputation, it's certainly not helping him in the polls. |
here he is at a rally saying obama's a 'decent american' and getting booed for it:
it's kindof a no-win situation for the guy.
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Dracko
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:07 am |
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You can't trust Arabs, okay!
Jesus fucking Christ...
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BalbanesBeoulve
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:17 am |
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Yeah, this is getting fucking ridiculous. McCain's really a piece of shit, not condemning this stuff, even as people yell "kill him!" and "hang him!" during speeches.
At this point he's just ruining his reputation, it's certainly not helping him in the polls. |
here he is at a rally saying obama's a 'decent american' and getting booed for it:
it's kindof a no-win situation for the guy. |
No sympathy, considering his campaign is the one saying "he's pallin' around with terrorists."
It's been pretty obvious that the Democrats were going to take the white house for years now. He could have at least tried to lose with dignity.
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Dracko
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All of this really just reminds me that politics is unsavoury and should not be humanity's cross to bear. It's undignified and appalling. :(
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BalbanesBeoulve
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McCain lost this race when he decided to pander to the far right. The guy had a pretty good reputation before this. The mainstream media fucking loved him. But then he started licking Jerry Falwell's butthole, and flipped on his own beliefs, like on immigration, and picked Sarah Palin, and decided to shit on the MSM.
McCain should have said "fuck you" to the far right. "I fucking DARE you to not vote for me" and picked Lieberman as his running mate, and be all mavericky up in here. Even if he lost, at least he wouldn't hate himself, which I'm pretty sure he does at this point.
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BalbanesBeoulve
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West Virginia is now a swing state. Palin's giving speeches there and a recent poll shows an Obama lead.
Next up? Georgia. Recent poll gives McCain only a 3 point lead.
Mccain is so so fucked.
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DonMarco
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| sam wrote: |
here he is at a rally saying obama's a 'decent american' and getting booed for it:
it's kindof a no-win situation for the guy. |
Wait, so he's not arab. He's a family man??
Arabs can't be family men??
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:45 am |
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They're probably also in Strongsville. This would be ten times funnier if they took the cameras to Parma. |
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CubaLibre
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| BalbanesBeoulve wrote: |
| McCain lost this race when he decided to pander to the far right. The guy had a pretty good reputation before this. The mainstream media fucking loved him. |
The funny thing is, he never was a maverick, and always merely a reckless opportunist. But you're right that the media used to love him, and it was an error to try to "energize the base." He could have kept his maverick image alive, banked on it even, instead of exposing it for the fraud it always was.
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| McCain should have said "fuck you" to the far right. "I fucking DARE you to not vote for me" and picked Lieberman as his running mate, and be all mavericky up in here. Even if he lost, at least he wouldn't hate himself, which I'm pretty sure he does at this point. |
That assumes McCain's earlier positions were somehow his "true" ones and not the result of an equal amount of base opportunism. I think he sleeps great at night, except for course for losing the Presidency, and never being able to surpass his daddy's four stars.
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BalbanesBeoulve
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:44 am |
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Oh for fuck's sake.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/10/1529529.aspx
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Earlier today, Obama remarked on recent outbursts of "Traitor!" "Terrorist!" and "Kill him!" at McCain campaign events. "It's easy to rile up a crowd," Obama said. "Nothing's easier than riling up a crowd by stoking anger and division. But that's not what we need right now in the United States."
In response, McCain senior adviser Nicolle Wallace released this statement, NBC's Kelly O'Donnell reports. "Barack Obama's assault on our supporters is insulting and unsurprising. These are the same people obama called 'bitter' and attacked for 'clinging to guns' and faith. He fails to understand that people are angry at corrupt practices in Washington and Wall Street and he fails to understand that America's working families are not 'clinging' to anything other than the sincere hope that Washington will be reformed from top to bottom."
"Attacking our supporters is a new low for the campaign that's run more millions of dollars of negative ads than any other in history."
*** UPDATE *** McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers adds in another statement: “Barack Obama’s attacks on Americans who support John McCain reveal far more about him than they do about John McCain. It is clear that Barack Obama just doesn’t understand regular people and the issues they care about. He dismisses hardworking middle class Americans as clinging to guns and religion, while at the same time attacking average Americans at McCain rallies who are angry at Washington, Wall Street and the status quo." |
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Adilegian
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In my darker moments, I feel like McCain's campaign is sowing aggression that might result in Obama's assassination. Every man who assassinated an American President believed that he (the assassin) was exterminating a leader who had betrayed America.
Probably just a misdirected gut feeling. I hope.
I fucking loathe the Republican party on most days.
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negativedge
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| BalbanesBeoulve wrote: |
| McCain lost this race when he decided to pander to the far right. The guy had a pretty good reputation before this. The mainstream media fucking loved him. |
The funny thing is, he never was a maverick, and always merely a reckless opportunist. But you're right that the media used to love him, and it was an error to try to "energize the base." He could have kept his maverick image alive, banked on it even, instead of exposing it for the fraud it always was.
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| McCain should have said "fuck you" to the far right. "I fucking DARE you to not vote for me" and picked Lieberman as his running mate, and be all mavericky up in here. Even if he lost, at least he wouldn't hate himself, which I'm pretty sure he does at this point. |
That assumes McCain's earlier positions were somehow his "true" ones and not the result of an equal amount of base opportunism. I think he sleeps great at night, except for course for losing the Presidency, and never being able to surpass his daddy's four stars. |
This is a viewpoint that seems to be gaining in popularity of late. Where is it coming from? I ask this genuinely, because McCain always did seem like a good guy to me. I am more inclined to brush off some of what has happened in the last few months as misguided attempts to unify the party than as par-for-the-course baseless opportunism. He seems to stick to his guns more often than most. |
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Adilegian
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:39 am |
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About the woman who appears in the preview cap for this video....
Does anyone else feel like she's a perfect model for a Ricky Gervais series involving an election? I feel this way.
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rabite gets whacked!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:35 am |
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| Adilegian wrote: |
In my darker moments, I feel like McCain's campaign is sowing aggression that might result in Obama's assassination. Every man who assassinated an American President believed that he (the assassin) was exterminating a leader who had betrayed America.
Probably just a misdirected gut feeling. I hope. |
Well, it's similar to what happened with Rabin's assassination in Israel. And it's pretty fucking scary.
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| McCain lost this race when he decided to pander to the far right. The guy had a pretty good reputation before this. The mainstream media fucking loved him. |
The funny thing is, he never was a maverick, and always merely a reckless opportunist. But you're right that the media used to love him, and it was an error to try to "energize the base." He could have kept his maverick image alive, banked on it even, instead of exposing it for the fraud it always was.
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| McCain should have said "fuck you" to the far right. "I fucking DARE you to not vote for me" and picked Lieberman as his running mate, and be all mavericky up in here. Even if he lost, at least he wouldn't hate himself, which I'm pretty sure he does at this point. |
That assumes McCain's earlier positions were somehow his "true" ones and not the result of an equal amount of base opportunism. I think he sleeps great at night, except for course for losing the Presidency, and never being able to surpass his daddy's four stars. |
This is a viewpoint that seems to be gaining in popularity of late. Where is it coming from? I ask this genuinely, because McCain always did seem like a good guy to me. I am more inclined to brush off some of what has happened in the last few months as misguided attempts to unify the party than as par-for-the-course baseless opportunism. He seems to stick to his guns more often than most. |
This is the likely source: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/
It surprised me too. I imagine there's spin to it, but even so he's done a remarkable job crafting his image.
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I'm reading this, now, and all it sounds like is Karl Rove and swiftboat turned the other way now that the Republicans are on the defensive. Yes, like all politicians McCain has bent over in order to earn his party's nomination and attempt to reach the White House. This assertion that it is only McCain that "puts himself first" in an attempt to be President is absurd. Barack Obama has no personal interest in being President? You telling me someone couldn't write the same article about how an opportunistic neophyte saw his opening to put a face to civil unrest after how well received his speech was in '04? Say something about his finding Jesus in the pulpits of Chicago politics as a way up, if not out? These arguments strike me as naive. More narratively compelling than structurally sound.
That said, I haven't finished reading this. It doesn't help that the tone is so bile, repeatedly calling McCain mediocre, selfish and desperately trying to outshine his upbringing (because, of course, the W comparisons are both narratively compelling and democratically on point).
edit: lol they rag on him for telling them his father's name while captured. Some other military dude that obviously hates him says John would be dead if he didn't talk. The implication is that he should have taken one for the team. Well, I'm convinced! Really, this piece is complete garbage and makes me feel bad for even reading it. And I'm not even voting for McCain! |
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Jam
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McCain is a brand built on the idea of his Maverick status and some notion of principles. If those traits can just be tracked to opportunism and as you observed he's just like every other politician, then that would make sense to bring up. Obama's lack of experience actually gives him the edge here, since his short career gives few examples of him trying to work the system for his benefit.
And as I understood they criticized his war record for being inflated. He was a POW but only became the poster boy for them because of his connections. That doesn't change that he was a POW, and I certainly don't fault him for cracking. Hell, before they even brought him into the camp he already had two broken arms and a broken leg right? On the other hand "war hero" does seem a bit inflated and deserves to be addressed. |
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Jam
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| That said, I haven't finished reading this. It doesn't help that the tone is so bile, repeatedly calling McCain mediocre, selfish and desperately trying to outshine his upbringing (because, of course, the W comparisons are both narratively compelling and democratically on point). |
I was curious about this as well. They often back up these assertions by citing McCain himself. Anyone maybe possibly read one of the McCain memoirs? If he really referred to himself as an opporunistic lazy asshole kid with a giant temper, I wouldn't see rolling stone doing the same to be problematic. |
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Talbain
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I'd just assume that both the candidates are genuinely "bad guys." They couldn't have succeeded in politics if they weren't. Which basically means we're still fucked at the end of the day. Even though I'll probably vote for Obama, I have less and less confidence in him with each passing day. The reality is that I simply like McCain even less.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:29 pm |
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Oh for fuck's sake.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/10/1529529.aspx
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Earlier today, Obama remarked on recent outbursts of "Traitor!" "Terrorist!" and "Kill him!" at McCain campaign events. "It's easy to rile up a crowd," Obama said. "Nothing's easier than riling up a crowd by stoking anger and division. But that's not what we need right now in the United States."
In response, McCain senior adviser Nicolle Wallace released this statement, NBC's Kelly O'Donnell reports. "Barack Obama's assault on our supporters is insulting and unsurprising. These are the same people obama called 'bitter' and attacked for 'clinging to guns' and faith. He fails to understand that people are angry at corrupt practices in Washington and Wall Street and he fails to understand that America's working families are not 'clinging' to anything other than the sincere hope that Washington will be reformed from top to bottom."
"Attacking our supporters is a new low for the campaign that's run more millions of dollars of negative ads than any other in history."
*** UPDATE *** McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers adds in another statement: “Barack Obama’s attacks on Americans who support John McCain reveal far more about him than they do about John McCain. It is clear that Barack Obama just doesn’t understand regular people and the issues they care about. He dismisses hardworking middle class Americans as clinging to guns and religion, while at the same time attacking average Americans at McCain rallies who are angry at Washington, Wall Street and the status quo." |
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| Anyone who assassinates obama will probably be assuming they're killing Sadam's brother. |
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Adilegian
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| I'd just assume that both the candidates are genuinely "bad guys." |
Why? Obama has been playing the necessary games, and I honestly think that he's given concessions to the Machiavellian reality of Super Walmart Sized presidential campaigns rather than an implicit endorsement of those trends.
I find myself unabashedly respecting the holy fuck out of him. He's one of the few Presidential candidates in the past 100 years (I'm guesstimating that) who grew up in a polylingual community which he participated in. (I know America's polylingual, but I want to clarify that I'm not talking about rich white boys who learned how to say "pussy" in Spanish during high school.) He's extremely intelligent, and he knows how to use language morally. (As opposed to the evil use of language that Plato wrote about, the kind that lurks like a gelid slug behind and between the Bush administration's lips.)
I actually trust the son of a bitch.
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Adilegian
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| Anyone who assassinates obama will probably be assuming they're killing Sadam's brother. |
If that happens, I will probably want blood. =(
I mean, the general sluck-mind that our hypothetical assassin falls into is the same that claims the dude who, at McCain's own rally, overtook the mic and said he's angry about socialists taking over America.
Which amounts to saying that, if Obama gets elected by a democratic vote, and if that democratic process establishes that the majority -- insofar as ballots can indicate -- want more socialist policies... then to be truly American is to say "Fuck the electoral process. Time to kill me a towelhead."
And now I feel like a MGS monologue, so I'm going back to my work. =(
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| Adilegian wrote: |
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| I'd just assume that both the candidates are genuinely "bad guys." |
Why? Obama has been playing the necessary games, and I honestly think that he's given concessions to the Machiavellian reality of Super Walmart Sized presidential campaigns rather than an implicit endorsement of those trends.
I find myself unabashedly respecting the holy fuck out of him. He's one of the few Presidential candidates in the past 100 years (I'm guesstimating that) who grew up in a polylingual community which he participated in. (I know America's polylingual, but I want to clarify that I'm not talking about rich white boys who learned how to say "pussy" in Spanish during high school.) He's extremely intelligent, and he knows how to use language morally. (As opposed to the evil use of language that Plato wrote about, the kind that lurks like a gelid slug behind and between the Bush administration's lips.)
I actually trust the son of a bitch. |
I suppose I'd ask you the same question? How can you trust a person who allows himself to falter under the Machiavellian political trends? To say that you’re better and then do the exact thing you say you’re “above?” How do you trust that? I can trust a person as much as anyone, but I can’t trust a person who lies continually facing the American people, no matter whose microscope they’re put under. The problem is that we don’t have any people in politics who even give a shit about people. We have criminals who run our country with a gelatin fist and we praise the fact that they can’t create change while mocking it at the same time. We simply have a farce in the realm of which would impress Shakespeare.
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| criminals, really? talbain, the president can't affect sweeping change because the office is not designed for that. the president is an executor, not a law maker. the line has been blurred a lot recently, but it still holds true. |
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| criminals, really? talbain, the president can't affect sweeping change because the office is not designed for that. the president is an executor, not a law maker. the line has been blurred a lot recently, but it still holds true. |
Yes, criminals. No they're not the small time criminals who download music or the big-time criminals who go on mass-murdering sprees, but they're still criminals. The list is as long as your eyeballs can stand from reading all the court cases, committee hearings and all the insanity in-between. You don't get to public office by being a good person anymore. Though it's arguable that you never did, shit's definitely changed in the character of the Presidency if we're being specific and elected office if we're being more generic.
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| I suppose I'd ask you the same question? How can you trust a person who allows himself to falter under such Machiavellian trends? To say that you're better and by do the exact thing you say you're "above?" How do trust that? I can trust a person as much as anyone, but I can't trust a person who lies continually facing the American people, no matter whose microscope they're put under. The problem is that we don't have any people in politics who have or even give a shit about people. We have criminals who run our country with a gelatin fist and we praise the fact that they can't create change while mocking it at the same time. We simply have a farce in the realm of which would impress Shakespeare. |
I can trust someone who does that because it's necessary in order to have any kind of significant impact upon politics whatsoever.
I'm tempted to use the cliche "You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs," but that phrase is pretty worn out and, frankly, retarding. I think it's kind of juvenile to equate "morality" with "ideality."
If you want a position of power within any organization with power -- be it economical, political, or some other venue -- you have to mimic the organization, structurally, in order to achieve a position of influence. Both campaigns talk plenty about how the government doesn't listen to the people anymore, and the flipside of that is that the polis barely listens to politics. I think that the gradual decline of the Presidential race toward a version Project Runway -- one that is superior than its progenitor series because it is not confined to cable! -- testifies to the overt overwhelming of style over substance.
So how the fuck do you serve a country where the polis thinks that the government doesn't care -- and those with political ambition think that the polis cares more about zingers and sensationalist controversy than political discourse (cf. McCain's campaign)?
Answer: you get elected.
How do you get elected?
You shovel the shit that's in your way, always remembering that -- when you reach your destination -- you're going to try and change the way the horse that put all that shit there is pastured.
Cynicism only helps satirists, and we get maybe two or three good ones per generation. So I think it's worth the effort to quit finding ways to feel defeated.
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| the president is an executor |
This is correct. I believe one of the smaller articles in the Constitution guarantees him round-the-clock access to a scramsax.
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Talbain
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| Adilegian wrote: |
| I can trust someone who does that because it's necessary in order to have any kind of significant impact upon politics whatsoever. |
The problem with this? The system changes people. In the case of our system? It turns them into the very thing we claim to despise.
I don't want someone willing to change simply because there's a system that "requires" them to. I want someone willing to change because there's good reason to. There's no good reason to take on a poor system. If the system doesn't change, the ultimate result, whether in 1 year or 1000 is failure of that system.
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Adilegian
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:21 pm |
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| Talbain wrote: |
| I don't want someone willing to change simply because there's a system that "requires" them to. I want someone willing to change because there's good reason to. There's no good reason to take on the system used today. |
This is vapid. In order to remain a tenable position, it has to ignore the different identities of the American government over the course of history.
This might sound awfully close to "love it or leave it," but if you've already decided that human beings have no moral agency whatsoever, what exactly are you doing with your life? And why?
EDIT: There's also a deep semantic problem what the way that "system" seems to be used in this conversation. Again, recourse to history shows that the American government is anything but calcified.
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Dracko
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Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:35 pm |
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| BalbanesBeoulve wrote: |
Oh for fuck's sake.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/10/1529529.aspx
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Earlier today, Obama remarked on recent outbursts of "Traitor!" "Terrorist!" and "Kill him!" at McCain campaign events. "It's easy to rile up a crowd," Obama said. "Nothing's easier than riling up a crowd by stoking anger and division. But that's not what we need right now in the United States."
In response, McCain senior adviser Nicolle Wallace released this statement, NBC's Kelly O'Donnell reports. "Barack Obama's assault on our supporters is insulting and unsurprising. These are the same people obama called 'bitter' and attacked for 'clinging to guns' and faith. He fails to understand that people are angry at corrupt practices in Washington and Wall Street and he fails to understand that America's working families are not 'clinging' to anything other than the sincere hope that Washington will be reformed from top to bottom."
"Attacking our supporters is a new low for the campaign that's run more millions of dollars of negative ads than any other in history."
*** UPDATE *** McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers adds in another statement: “Barack Obama’s attacks on Americans who support John McCain reveal far more about him than they do about John McCain. It is clear that Barack Obama just doesn’t understand regular people and the issues they care about. He dismisses hardworking middle class Americans as clinging to guns and religion, while at the same time attacking average Americans at McCain rallies who are angry at Washington, Wall Street and the status quo." |
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So when are these people going to start acting like grown ups instead of children fighting over a mudpile?
Living under the yoke of institutionalised bigotry and ignorance is enough reason to slay democracy as a holy cow.
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