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Toptube
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 Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:59 pm |
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| ghostsghostsghosts wrote: |
| beveled everything, cheap looking gloss effects everywhere, obnoxious icons. Vanilla XP was ugly, but it was at least possible to change just about everything around to your liking. |
Jesus I hate reading posts where people complain that its not automatically setup exactly how they want it.
You can turn on or off everything and change your themes etc etc just like any windows. Hell, there's even a version of Vista that its impossible to ever have aero. |
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Toptube
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:11 am |
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| Panoptic wrote: |
| Perhaps I wasn't clear, but my intent wasn't to say that you need a monster system to run Vista - I was just making light of the fact that most people's problems with the new OS are because of antiquated hardware (referring to the Mojave Experiment ads). |
I get what you are saying, but Mojave was mostly geared to beat down the hear say. To target those people who had never seen and never ever considered Vista for a moment because James in the cubicle next to them said it sucks, or Wendy at knitting class heard from her friend's husband Daniel that no sane person would ever buy it or----etc. |
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Toptube
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:17 am |
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| DonMarco wrote: |
| I built mine for around $350 after rebates. |
Guys I just wanted World of Warcraft to look its best. :(
DM, that's about the same that my new build would cost me, if I bothered with the mail-in rebate stuff. $400 flat as is (mobo, video, cpu, ram, case, cooling). I bought Vista a long time ago, but had to reinstall XP when ASUS wouldn't bother to release drivers for my mobo. |
Maaaaan, you are crazy to be getting Drivers direct from a mobo company. figure out who makes the actual chipset (Intel, ATI, Nvidia) and get the drivers from them. Component vendors are notorious for being way behind with their own driver re-hashes.
Also, Vista pre SP1 ran just fine on my single core Athlon 64 with 2GB of DDR ram. |
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Toptube
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:19 am |
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| DVD Shrink and DVD decrypter work fine in Vista. Decrypter throws up some errors when you try to close it, but it closes. |
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Toptube
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:43 am |
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there's a lot of little new functionality things in Vista that add up to so much more.
Vista benchmarks equivalent to XP, so all of this perceived intensive overhead is out the window. Vista uses unused ram and extra processor cycles for all sorts of caching and prefetching so that when you want something, you get it now. That's not overhead, its making your hardware work for you, instead of sitting idle. Its not perfect, but most of the time it works rather well. Even better after SP1. When you do need all the power you possibly can throw at something, Vista dumps all of those caches freeing your ram up and prioritizes processor cycles on the main task at hand. |
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Toptube
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| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:54 am |
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| The only change I make to Vista's look is I make the Aero glass a nice green color. A green that is somewhere between green and easter-green. |
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Toptube
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| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:09 am |
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| TheUser wrote: |
Guys, I went to Vista recently and now I just crash a lot :(
So even though my account is an administrator, I have to run applications as administrator when I need admin privileges? Also, is there a way I can keep the new alt-tab and taskbar thumbnails while still getting rid of the rest of Aero? |
Update or fresh install?
Did you let Vista automatically install drivers for anything from its own built-in pool of drivers?
how much ram?
Nvidia or ATI?----and, what model?
have you for certain, ruled out a ram problem? |
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Toptube
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| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:25 pm |
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First off, thanks for taking an interest!
I was using XP Pro 64-bit before and I installed Vista over it. |
That is most likely the problem right there. Doing upgrade installs with Windows is sort of like Russian Roulette for your computer.
Just in case though, the drivers you installed, did you download the latest from their respective websites? or were they just drivers you've had sitting on a disc for a few months?
Vista 64 is a much much better product than XP 64 and has and will have more support than XP 64 ever had. I wouldn't worry about it being any less good than Vista 32 or XP 32. |
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Toptube
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:00 am |
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| That is most likely the problem right there. Doing upgrade installs with Windows is sort of like Russian Roulette for your computer. |
I just reformatted and reinstalled Vista. First thing I did was install video drivers and reboot. Next I installed my PCI wifi card's drivers. Then I tried to do Windows Update. After the first update it asked me to reformat. While doing Windows Update the second time, it froze again. Event log shows a bunch of errors with Windows Update too. |
I've got 2 things that may help you.
One person who had this problem turned on automatic updating and allowed it to download a couple of updates, which happened to be for IE7. After they installed the updates, they rebooted and were able to use the windows update site.
Another person who had this problem received the following suggestion in a forum post:
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Make sure that these Services are set to Automatic:
Automatic Updates
Event Log
Make sure that Background Intelligent Transfer Service [BITS] is at
least set to Manual and can be Started in the Services console
[ Start > Run > services.msc ]
Then open Internet Options in the Control Panel
Click the Programs tab
Now click the Manage add-ons button
Make sure that the WuWebControl Class add-on is not disabled
Make sure that any add-on associated with BOClean *is* Disabled
If the DataStore.ebd has become damaged then the only recourse will be
to delete it and start over. All that does is delete the History that is
viewable on the WindowsUpdate site |
Hopefully this helps you!
**for automatic updating, I recommend setting it to automatically download updates, but you manually decide to install them. When the updates are downlaoded and ready, a little symbol will appear in the taskbar. You can either click it to install them right then, or the shutdown button in the start menu will change and allow you to install the updates as you are shutting down the computer. Very convenient. |
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Toptube
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| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:02 am |
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| If you really feel that your hard drive may be dying, get the manufacturer's diagnostic tools from their website. Check disc doesn't warn you about/or fix your hardrive, it just fixes file system errors that may have resulted from hardrive problems. |
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Toptube
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| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:47 am |
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When you were running WoW off the external during your upgrade-install, did you have service pack 1? Because, SP1 fixes some issues Vista had with file transfer from external devices. Nvidia also release several hotfixes before SP1 to fix problems that their Geforce 6, 7, and 8 cards were causing in Vista. SP1 includes those hotfixes by default.
Its also possible that your computer just has a really cruddy USB controller and could explain why running games over USB works fine on other computers.
Also, check to see if you have this MS hotfixe installed:
KB940105
A lot of people are saying it hurts game performance and stability a lot, so maybe try removing it if you have it. |
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