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Windows Vista: How to make tolerable?

 
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Panoptic



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:24 am        Reply with quote

I prefer XP myself, as the interface seems like a tighter, snappier experience (plus some of my programs just don't work right in Vista) but Vista isn't terrible assuming you have enough power for it. What I find funny about the Mojave Experiment ads is the people seeing the demos don't realize the demo systems would probably smash their systems out of existence.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:28 pm        Reply with quote

Unless SP1 gives Vista an enormous boost to interface speed, I disagree with you on how snappy the GUI is. Yeah, a fully accelerated GUI is nice - it may render without (or at least with less) tearing and not have the artifacting issue that XP's blitter graphics have, but in my opinion it doesn't have the speed or responsiveness of XP (Note that the "worst" GPU I've used Vista with on one of my own systems is a GeForce 7800GTX). I stopped using Vista about a month before SP1 officially dropped, and kept it updated, but if you're adamant that the performance difference is there, I might try installing it again.

Perhaps I wasn't clear, but my intent wasn't to say that you need a monster system to run Vista - I was just making light of the fact that most people's problems with the new OS are because of antiquated hardware (referring to the Mojave Experiment ads). Back when Vista came out there was a camp that was outraged that the accelerated GUI required PS model 2.0 to run. I seem to recall Apple poking fun at this aspect of Vista as well (isn't DirectX more feature-laden than OpenGL?), but the way I see it, it's a necessary step forward. They just haven't implemented it in a way I'm willing to change operating systems for yet. I'd bet most of the people whose computers aren't up to the task of running Vista are the same people who're happy with XP that you refer to, but my system is DX10.1 capable, and I happen to be happy with XP, myself. Well, not completely happy with it, but I find it's better than all the alternatives for what I do on my PC.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:55 pm        Reply with quote

shnozlak wrote:
DonMarco wrote:
BenoitRen wrote:
shnozlak wrote:
I think computers should have flat uninteresting interfaces. Especially if Im trying to get work done.

I strongly agree with this. An OS should be just a tool that doesn't get in my way.

There's this scene in the movie Charlie Wilson's War when a contributor's waiting in Charlie's office and he notices that all of Charlie's pages and secretaries are beautiful, sexy women. One of them tells the man, "Charlie always said- 'You can teach them to type, but you can't teach them to grow tits.'"

So if you're going to spend 4, 8, 10+ hours a day five days a week, why not something that's a little aesthetically pleasing? Even if it isn't exactly perfect at first, eventually Vista will be better. For example, when I install it on my computer, it only recognizes 3GB of my 4GB installed. A few updates later, it recognizes all 4GB. Wow!


I lok at a pretty OS and think to myself: Why waste all that man power getting transparencies to work when you cold have been focusing on fixing crippling bugs, improving sound playback/recording quality or reducing processor overhead. Form is cute, form is for web pages and entertainment. I want function in an OS; speed is sexier than colors.

Would you rather have a flat gray boxy sports car with perfect handling or a sloppy bloated slow minivan that looks like a Lamborghini?


That's a pretty terrible analogy, but I digress - I agree with DonMarco here. I spend a lot of time on a PC and I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting the environment to look good. Besides, it's not like the people who designed Vista's GUI are the same ones writing the codebase.
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