[Ronnoc]

B)

[Ymer]

So, Normal or Expert for my first ever run? (managed to mangle up my name something awful at the name entry which I didn't notice until the second save point, doing a quick restart)

[Schwere Viper]

Romanji-nize your last name so you can truly be a japanese high school student.

Also Normal is enough.
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[Ymer]

[HarveyQ]

you don't pick Hard in an SMT game unless you're playing NG+ or you're crazy.

see: Nocturne (oh hey limited item capacity and everything costs 3x the makka and enemies give more damage and take less. why would you do this to yourself)
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[Ymer]

The songs are getting stuck in my head waaaay to easily.
Learnt a couple of lessons the hard way when going up the castle and getting completely devastated at the knight. I like this combat system though!
Fused myself a horse and some sort of grey slugbear. The horse shall be my new best friend.

There seems to be some weird audio skipping at times during the animated cutscenes. Could this be a PAL issue? Is there a fix? Also, why do the portraits look like they've been resized slightly vertically with no filtering? Oh, and as usual the everyone's "S"-es sound compressed as hell but this is just the way audio is done for the PS2, ain't it? (remember FF12 having the same issue)

[Ymer]

MilleNNium.

[special blend]

I picked up P3P again

I've decided that once I am done, I shall seek out a PS2 and P4

also, Shinjiro as an S-Link!?!?!? I'll check this thread again when I find out whether or not he dies when you're playing as the female MC
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[Persona]

I can tell you if you want
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[smartblue]

[Ymer]

So should I just fuse kind of haphazardly or try actually to wrap my head around all the laws that Igor talks about and the fusion chart in the manual?

[Persona]

In general, I try to fuse up but make sure to keep a few necessary things in my party like having one of each elemental spell, a healer, a physical attacker - that kinda thing. I usually have a few I care about/use the most and a bunch of side guys I collected in the dungeon that I just fuse into each other afterwords.
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[thestage]

Yeah, I wouldn't worry about really getting into the nuances of the fusion system or targeting specific things until the end part of the game. Just take all your trash and make the highest level stuff you can get out of it. You'll actually learn a good bit doing that. oh, and get a black frost for the middle part of the game.

[Persona]

And if you want to complete Margaret's requests, use a Gamefaq because that shit ain't worth it otherwise. Though her S-link end is pretty good.
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[8128]

hey I got all margaret's s-links without an faq and you know it was kind of fun

also if I hadn't done that I would never have figured out all the weird rules that determine how fusion works

also game owns
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[Toptube]

[thestage]

well, it's not quite random. there are some skills that cannot be transferred (and I believe it's on a demon by demon basis, though all the unique ones and a couple others besides are universally off limits), and every combination/demon has some skills that are very heavily weighted in the transfer process. I don't remember if there's a rule to it or not.

[Toptube]

right. The general point is that any given fusion has a few possiblities that change each time you cancel and re-do it. So you should re-do your fusions until you get the skills you want, from what's possible with that specific fusion. Figuring this out gave me a ton of confidence in the fusion system and overall, confidence in my control over the game. Before that I was just kind of blindly fusing for higher level personas. Also, check the calendar all the time for fusion bonuses. They are totally worth paying attention to.

[Persona]

Oh damn, I totally forgot about that. I remember spending literally an hour trying to get a good spell combo, skipping over it by accident twice just because I was so in the rhythm of accepting/canceling.

Man, where is the Vita version???
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[thestage]

[Ymer]

[thestage]

yeah whenever you are s-linking with someone you should have a persona of that arcana. it makes them numbers go up significantly faster, and that bonus exp on fusions becomes a big deal as the game progresses, because personas take a loooooooooooong time to level and there are a number of personas that have extremely good skills hidden at levels that are not feasible to reach without powered up fusion conditions.

[Toptube]

[Ymer]

[Lucaz]

Finishing a link get unlocks the last persona of that arcana, and those are the best ones. For example, Ongyo-ki is totally worth completing hermit for, for firm stance alone (you receive half damage, but can't dodge).

[thestage]

[Ymer]

There is an intense satisfaction in fusing two separate demons with your max lvl., great moves carried over that gain lots of exp from your links as well as additional bonuses from the fusion forecast, all this on 2 straight days.

[Ymer]

I am fucking terrible at cooking. Mayonaise in the potato salad, flour in the curry, these all seemed like good ideas at the time!

[Ratoslov]

Playing through again on Expert difficulty. I am pulling out all the stops and am attempting to fuse a Victory Crywan, because fuck you, game.

How to break the game in half in an incredibly tedious manner:

Step 1: Reach level 24. (Optionally, also have a good bit of cash.)
Step 2: Wait until a Skill Change fusion forecast day. Check out two Personas which will make a Kaiwan. (This is easy, since Kaiwan is the lowest-ranked Star arcana.) Save.
Step 3: Fuse up a Kaiwan.
Step 4: After you fuse the Kaiwan, the Skill Change effect will randomly choose a skill from all the skills the Kaiwan knows, and randomly alter it to another skill of the same 'skill rank'. Tetrakarn, which Kaiwans know natively, is of Rank 7, which is the same skill rank as Victory Cry, along with a number of very nice end-game skills like Mediarahan, Myriad Arrows, Arms/Spell Master, and all of the Repel (Element) skills.
Step 5a: If the skill change resulted in a awesome skill which was not Victory Cry, fuse the Kaiwan with pretty much anything and migrate the skill out of there, then pull out another pair of Persona to fuse the Kaiwan with, save, and return to Step 3.
Step 5b: If you didn't get a decent skill, reset and go back to Step 3.
Step 5c: If you got Victory Cry, congradulations! You just broke the game's economy.
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[Persona]

Whoa.


Also I thought Die for Me was inheritable? I thought so in P3 at least.
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[Lucaz]

It is, in p3. I put quite some effort into making personas with it, although not nearly as much as growth 3. Having Belzebu with die for me and victory cry was good. Really shortened my endgame grinding.

In p4, I suspected it wasn't after 15 minutes of it never appearing in the fusion. Then I read it was never gonna happen, and was all :(
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[Ymer]

So I'm sort of also carefully reading this thread as I go along and I have a another question, where does our dear Persona get all the descriptions of the various arcanas from? Can I read them in the game?

[Persona]

I googled them! I put *some* effort into making the thread entertaining/informative. I wonder if the links/images to the foods and historical facts still work.


Also now that you mentioned it, Lucaz, I recall doing the same thing too and realizing after a while that Die for Me wasn't gonna happen. Alas.
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[smartblue]

gamemp3s.net has a new Persona 4 soundtrack with extended versions and new arrangements. It's pretty nice!
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[lofighost]

whoa cool awesome, thanks!

edit: man "reach out to the truth" always makes me pretty excited. i wonder how long they've been working on these arrangements, though.

[idle]

Meguro really went nuts on that Specialist remix. I love it.

[Ymer]

[HarveyQ]

[lofighost]

geez.... now the game's getting a theatrical adaption

the cast looks pretty good though. apparently before each show they will ask people on the street what the name of the hero should be?

[Rud31]

Oh man I totally missed that theater thing. That sounds awesome/will probably be mediocre.

KUMMMAAAAAAAAA


Hey guys I'm about 10 hours into P3P. It's not grabbing me by the throat like P4 did. I know everyone said P4 is so much better than P3 and it's true! I'm just wondering if there is something worth playing for. Like I don't mind playing it, it's just making want to play P4 again. Also with "simplified" menus it's still really confusing to get around town. Also I completely forget what I was doing because I pick it back up about once a month play it for 2 hours then set it down.
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[Persona]

Dunno, I couldn't play through P3 again even in FES or in P3P despite the female protagonist. The characters just aren't as likeable in comparison to P4 :/
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