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JamesE
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:52 am    Post subject: Resident Evil 4    Reply with quote

Mention of this game sent me scurrying for the Cube to shoot some shit in the head with guns. I love this game so much.

I first played this paralytically drunk in the early hours of april 15th, 2006. A drunken man had wedgied my pants halfway off my arse, and I had been described by at least one person as "some fucked up guy". I had eaten a delicious lamb and chicken kebab. I can't remember much, except that my first spinkick decked four zombies.

The next day we spent a shameful amount of time (I was sleeping round a friend's house) screaming and laughing and shouting and passing the controller. Highlights were the lake boss, the cabin seige and the entry of the parasites. In my opinion no game is as stupidly fun and exciting to play.

Share your resident evil 4 happy times here!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:03 am        Reply with quote

Man, James. And here I'd almost resisted the urge to play from that ridiculous article. But no, you had to go and start a thread, and now I've gotta pop Four Swords Adventure out of the Wii and find my copy of RE4.

Sometimes, I'd just stop and spend a minute reorganizing my inventory.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:39 am        Reply with quote

Man, I made my ex-girlfirend almost throw up from playing resident evil 4! Really!

Yeah!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:40 am        Reply with quote

I stayed home instead of going to a New Year's Eve bash just so I could play this. I don't regret it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:45 am        Reply with quote

Intentionally Wrong wrote:
Sometimes, I'd just stop and spend a minute reorganizing my inventory.


It's nice to have someone who understands me.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:02 am        Reply with quote

this was the game of the dorm last year

much screaming and laughing was had

especially in mercenaries where the chainsaw dude follows you around faster than you can believe
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:16 am        Reply with quote

Double Donger is my vote for best arch nemesis ever.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:37 pm        Reply with quote

I'm pretty glad that I didn't play any of the Resident Evil games that came before this one. This game is the perfect entry point to the series for anyone else who missed the boat like I did.

Incendiary grenades probably put too big of a smile on my face for it to be completely healthy. For some reason, I always felt safer when I had them in my inventory. They filled me with a weird bravado.

The shady arms dealer should have his own game.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:59 pm        Reply with quote

And here I thought I might never find something to agree with you on JamesE.

My favorite moments of the game have to come from the Mercenaries mode. I once found double donger asleep in a room.

"Is he asleep?"
--"I don't know."
shoots double donger with the shotgun
-Then runs, literally screaming, from the room as double donger springs to life revving up his two chainsaws.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:18 pm        Reply with quote

There really are too many "moments" in this game to lay out here, but I absolutely loved the boss fights. I even went sofar as to keep a save file handy before each one, just in case I wanted to show any of my nonbelieving friends. Shame about the low-capacity GC cards though (at least the older ones, aka all of mine).

I also maintain the highest score in Merc mode that I've seen without cheats, hacks and other such tomfoolery, in the village w/Wesker and some 179,000 pts or so last I checked.

Heres to hoping 5 brings with it some form of coop play....
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:18 pm        Reply with quote

Mikey wrote:
The shady arms dealer should have his own game.


It should be a playground flasher economic simulator in which you sell drugs and guns to people on a creepy Spanish playground while fake flashing all the kids. The kids finally figure ou that you are wearing clothes under there, until the very end of the game, when you aren't, and they all cry.

Man, that dude is creepy as hell.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:26 pm        Reply with quote

He should be a playable character in Marvel Vs Capcom III
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:55 pm        Reply with quote

I love this game so much I bought it twice.

Yeah, analysing it's Freudian tendancies may be craptastic, but this game, this GAME, is so fun and cool and jugular...I really, really enjoy it, from the camp to the homages it pays to the jump-scares to the feeling you get when you finally have enough ammo and weapons to kick the ever-lovin' crap outta the base enemies.

High Point: Fighting two giants in a lava pit and dumping one into said pit, then running around like a fool trying to kill the second one without getting stomped or thrown from the scaffolding. First off, it's scary and exciting. Secondly, why was the scaffolding and zip-line there in the first place? To make a fun set piece is why! So I could have videogamey fun. Thanks, Capcom!

I'm not sorry I linked that other article. Good for a laugh. Not necessarily good. Whatevah.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:00 pm        Reply with quote

Okay, so for all RE4 lovers (I count myself among them); if you had to go back and play it, would you:

a) play the PS2 version?
b) play the GC version via Wii?

I've only played the PS2 version, as I didn't have a GameCube at the time.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:03 pm        Reply with quote

Play the GC version on the Wii. The Wii makes a very sexy game even sexier.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:08 pm        Reply with quote

I'd say play the GC version for your first playthrough. Better graphics and the controls feel perfect. PS2 version is a good game with lots of extras, but it's a port, there's a slight downgrade to the graphics and... Hell, it's still great. Plus, the extra's are very worth it to me. I really liked what they added for the PS2 release.

But I won't get rid of my GC version. I'm dumb like that.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:23 pm        Reply with quote

I already played and finished the PS2 version, though I found myself a lot less interested in the extras than I thought I'd be.

Does the GC version support Dolby Pro Logic II like the PS2 version does?

EDIT: Never mind, I answered my own question.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:00 pm        Reply with quote

Mikey wrote:
He should be a playable character in Marvel Vs Capcom III


Hahahahahaha! Yes, you are soooo right.

unhappy days wrote:
Man, I made my ex-girlfirend almost throw up from playing resident evil 4! Really!


My wife actually wouldn't ALLOW me to play RE4 unless she was there. One of only two games I've ever encountered where that happened (other one was Eternal Darkness). I said I'd go back and load a save file to replay sections she missed, but she didn't go for that either. I was sort of afraid of what she would do if I didn't obey, especially with chainsaw guys putting ideas in her head. She really liked that game. Didn't want to play it, just watch - she actually played Eternal Darkness.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:44 pm        Reply with quote

Lestrade wrote:
Okay, so for all RE4 lovers (I count myself among them); if you had to go back and play it, would you:

b) play the GC version via Wii?


I am currently doing this! I'm trying to improve my aiming skill in FPSs and shooting games in general, and I think I'm getting better at it. Right now I'm going through with only a pistol/shotgun combo.

For some reason I recently realized how fun the game was. And I still haven't seriously tried Mercenaries or Assignment Ada yet, which people seem to be having the most fun playing.

The Wii is good for playing your Gamecube games in progressive scan, since they stopped making component cables for GC or something.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:50 pm        Reply with quote

The only problem with RE 4 is that the village is so awesome is makes the castle disappointing. If the castle had been before the village the game would probably have been perfect.

The jump from classic RE to RE 4 is one of the biggest and best in a franchise, though. I'd like to see the GTA series get the Resident Evil 4 treatment - you know, great controls and great gameplay without taking away any of what made the previous games awesome.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:56 pm        Reply with quote

Ebrey wrote:
The only problem with RE 4 is that the village is so awesome is makes the castle disappointing. If the castle had been before the village the game would probably have been perfect.

The jump from classic RE to RE 4 is one of the biggest and best in a franchise, though. I'd like to see the GTA series get the Resident Evil 4 treatment - you know, great controls and great gameplay without taking away any of what made the previous games awesome.


But then you invade, um, I don't know, the Mexican Nazi revolutionary forces? I really don't know how else to explain that quasi-military part, but it was still pretty sweet.

Edit: And come to think of it, I never realized how well the bosses of RE4 matched with the stages leading up to them. Bravo RE, bravo.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:25 pm        Reply with quote

Ebrey wrote:
The only problem with RE 4 is that the village is so awesome is makes the castle disappointing. If the castle had been before the village the game would probably have been perfect.

The jump from classic RE to RE 4 is one of the biggest and best in a franchise, though. I'd like to see the GTA series get the Resident Evil 4 treatment - you know, great controls and great gameplay without taking away any of what made the previous games awesome.


This is arguable -- I think the atmosphere and general "scariness" of REmake is far far superior to RE4, in my opinion.

Part of the problem is that you ARE so badass, so you never feel like the zombies are much of a threat.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:58 pm        Reply with quote

Iron Maidens, dude. Those things freak the shit out of me every time. Although yeah, the set pieces start loosing their sense of urgency after the long walk in the rain and the cabin defense.

And the hedge maze.

And the right hand..!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:20 pm        Reply with quote

firenze wrote:


My wife actually wouldn't ALLOW me to play RE4 unless she was there. One of only two games I've ever encountered where that happened (other one was Eternal Darkness). I said I'd go back and load a save file to replay sections she missed, but she didn't go for that either. I was sort of afraid of what she would do if I didn't obey, especially with chainsaw guys putting ideas in her head. She really liked that game. Didn't want to play it, just watch - she actually played Eternal Darkness.


You know, you'd be surprised how many people (male and female alike) really enjoy watching a game be played instead of playing it themselves. For example, I love to watch my friend play Beatmania but never really want to do it myself.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:45 pm        Reply with quote

dark steve wrote:
Iron Maidens, dude. Those things freak the shit out of me every time. Although yeah, the set pieces start loosing their sense of urgency after the long walk in the rain and the cabin defense.

And the hedge maze.

And the right hand..!


yeah, there's definitely some great moments. but it's only temporary. when you aren't at a major setpiece the game is actually rather relaxing.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:17 am        Reply with quote

REmake is actually amazingly well done. In my mind 4 and REmake are equally as good as each other. It probably helps that I didn't play the original before REmake.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:20 am        Reply with quote

I just played through this game for the first time about a week ago. And I really loved it, as a guilty pleasure of sorts. It's mastered the idea of throwing a lot of different gimmicky gameplay scenarios at you for short enough periods of time where they're fun without actually feeling gimmicky, even if you know that they really are (Dynamite Headdy!).

The ending as contrasted to the beginning of the game really sucked (if you don't compare it to the beginning of the game, though, it was pretty good; the final boss was okay, and the second-to-last boss was awesome). In the beginning, upon getting the rifle and feeling amazingly all-powerful while at the same time fearing the very real possiblity of getting my head chopped off, I decided that, henceforth, if a game does not grab my attention within the first fifteen minutes, I will stop playing it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:25 am        Reply with quote

Ebrey wrote:
The only problem with RE 4 is that the village is so awesome is makes the castle disappointing. If the castle had been before the village the game would probably have been perfect.


The castle gets awesome, though - from the sewers through to Salzaar is a real high point of the game. I remember seeing giant clockwork marble Salzaar and thinking "oh fuck yes".

I unlocked Krauser in the Mercenaries last night. I really love his arm attack. Krauser needed a side mission :(
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:33 am        Reply with quote

Mister Toups wrote:
dark steve wrote:
Iron Maidens, dude. Those things freak the shit out of me every time. Although yeah, the set pieces start loosing their sense of urgency after the long walk in the rain and the cabin defense.

And the hedge maze.

And the right hand..!


yeah, there's definitely some great moments. but it's only temporary. when you aren't at a major setpiece the game is actually rather relaxing.


Two games in "different goals" shocker!

Seriously, man. I know we talked about this last night, but you're basically saying that you don't like Mario Land because it isn't enough like Bubble Bobble. The old style games are just backtrack-laden fetch questing - the player being scared is subjective and seemingly pretty rare - no actual fun to play. I know you tend to have a somewhat perverse perspective on a lot of games, but c'mon. REmake's devoid of many, many things and almost killed my Gamecube gaming before it even started. It's just some dumb puzzles, man!

Leon being a hyper-competent badass was such an awesome inversion of genre/J-gaming stereotype that I wanted to fucking applaud it. Standard operating proceedure would have had him act like a castrated douchebag.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:35 am        Reply with quote

JamesE wrote:
I unlocked Krauser in the Mercenaries last night. I really love his arm attack. Krauser needed a side mission :(


5 staring all of mercenaries with Krauser is way too easy but way too much fun. The arm is a godsend.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:39 am        Reply with quote

RE5's protagonist should be able to grab two zombies by the head and bash them together. That's pretty much the only way you could wind up with someone more bad ass than Leon.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:43 am        Reply with quote

boojiboy7 wrote:
JamesE wrote:
I unlocked Krauser in the Mercenaries last night. I really love his arm attack. Krauser needed a side mission :(


5 staring all of mercenaries with Krauser is way too easy but way too much fun. The arm is a godsend.


The bow is also a godsend in terms of keeping your ammo up. I wonder if that's a pun - Krauser's a B.O.W. himself in game terminology, right?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:50 am        Reply with quote

Wait till you unlock Hunk and Wesker. Krauser is still the best, especially since he can make clouds of blood, but those two have some fantastic quick time events.

And I really wish they would have let you play through the game with those characters. It wouldn't have made any sense, but it's not like I care about silly things like that.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:51 am        Reply with quote

STRAIGHT PUNCH
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:54 am        Reply with quote

JamesE wrote:
STRAIGHT PUNCH


Dude, try the axe kick. That's probably my favorite ('cept for Hunks stun attack - best when used in a crowd of zombies)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:17 am        Reply with quote

We all talk and talk and talk about the Silent Hill games, and at least a couple of those are really, really great, but none of them pack the sheer visceral punch that RE4 does. In no other videogame do you see a potato sack-headed motherfucker run at you screaming and chainsaw your head off, then drop your jaw and babble about how fucking awesome that was — and probably burst into a fit of laughter because of it.

A friend of mine told me that he actually couldn't continue playing beyond a point because he was terrified of being attacked from behind.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:27 am        Reply with quote

I remember vividly the end of the cabin seige first time through my health was at it's lowest ebb, and a plaga was swinging at me from some dude's neck. I'd just got the red9 sight on it when they called retreat.

Man, that was some shit.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:28 am        Reply with quote

I kick so much arse with Hunk, it's ungodly. He's just so God damn brilliant.

I think the island was underwhelming after the castle. They should have set it beforehand or something, and the castle be the last area.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:11 am    Post subject: The Suplex    Reply with quote

This game totally defined the dynamic between me and my roomates for 2 years. I think the game (both ps2 and GC version) has been beaten about 25 to 30 times between all of us. Classic moments have been:


The Suplex. Seriously, if you haven't done it yet, pop the game in and get a zombie to kneel (shoot the lower leg), run up, and enjoy.

The first time a truck starts driving towards you while other zombies are coming at you. This was our first time, and we had already met Luis. So I see him coming, and I say, "Hey, that's my buddy." Like, he'd run over the zombies for me. Boom. Crash. I'm dead. "......Hey buddy"

Fuckin a, the double donger was awesome.

We'd just pop in this game whenever we needed to get out stress. Man it's made things great. That and god of war
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:24 am        Reply with quote

Ebrey wrote:
The only problem with RE 4 is that the village is so awesome is makes the castle disappointing. If the castle had been before the village the game would probably have been perfect.


The Castle is the worst area of the game. It has some good parts, but it also has a lot of weak parts. It also feels disconnected from the rest of the game. I think that is because it also feels the most like a classic RE game area, with weird area designs and wonky puzzles and the like.

The castle does suffer from another thing, beyond bad design. Around the castle is where it really sinks in that Leon has more than enough ability to handle what the game throws at him. This particularly comes through in the various ambushes that the game resorts to (a swarm of monks entering a room after Leon triggers them, the cage fight with the Garrador and monks, the sheer volume of enemies in Water Room) and relying on Ashley as a weak link (because in most cases Leon is fine).

The Castle does perhaps make an okay transition from the first half of the game to the military base, which is a completely different feel. Maybe nothing would have survived that transition unscathed.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:18 am        Reply with quote

I find it interesting that Half-Life 2, MGS 3, and RE 4 came out in relatively close proximity to each other. All three are inspired by a lot of the same American movies - blockbusters and cult classics, as opposed to arthouse stuff. All three are especially great installments of series that were already respected. All of them have FPS elements but are about more than just shooting things.

I personally love the types of movies that Kojima and Mikami and Valve are inspired by, and I like that these games evoke them in ways only a videogame could. On the other hand, there is the danger that action, sci fi and zombie flicks have been mimicked so well that people will think that's what video games do best, in the same way that for a long time people thought superheroes were what comics did best.
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