[boojiboy7]

[Mr. Pointy]

[RussianLullaby]

[parkbench]

[Ebrey]

The GTA 2-> 3 jump was in immersion, not in controls. The RE series was always immersive but clunky, so the PS2 GTAs are in a similiar place right now.

[Adilegian]

[Mikey]

[boojiboy7]

[Adilegian]

[boojiboy7]

Yeah, even the aiming system isn't that different, just refined to allow a bit more freedom in how you go about it. This doesn't diminish the game for me at all. Hell, it is still the only RE I have finished. Twice.

[Baines]

There are some differences beyond the camera.

The areas are designed to be less restrictive, for one. Prior REs flat out abused the fixed cameras in enemy placement.

Leon is more mobile. Prior RE characters would have to walk around the smallest objects. When I first saw a low fence in RE4, I was certain that I'd have to walk all the way around to the opening. But then I found Leon could just hop right over it. (And the enemies as well.) There were all sorts of mobility touchs that classic RE games did not allow.


Still, it is mostly the camera change. Which is understandable. The problem with classic RE controls wasn't the controls themselves. It was those controls combined with that view system.

[SuperWes]

Here to request a Dino Crisis 3 with an RE4 camera.

-Wes
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[boojiboy7]

True enough baines, there were some other minor changes, though the game did make effective use of going back to the old more closed spaces of the other RE games at times.

[Sklabah]

[Frequent Pilgrim]

Playing assignment Ada, I realized that it pretty much plays like a classic RE except with the new controls. Enemies you dont have the right weapons for, narrow corridors and limited ammo. It's also got the classic lock and key progression mixed with cheap scare tactics and extremely limited health.

I liked assignment Ada more than the whole rest of RE4. Not that I didn't think the main game was pretty amazing on its own, but I kind of wish they had made the whole game like assignment Ada. It kept that whole "Oh god, I really can't survive this. I'm just not going to make it, even if I had ammo I probably can't kill the enemy before he gets to me. The situation is so hopeless" that only Resident Evil has really been able to capture.

[another coma]

[Slonie]

Bitch this ain't a cutscene indeed...

Okay guys, you're really making me want to finish RE4 now. I started it on a borrowed gamecube and got up to the first time you're forced to play as a defenseless little girl. Ashley, I mean (to show I really did play it). Despite the utter awesomeness of the game, I just couldn't pick it up and continue at that point. Then my friend sold his GC so I had to give it back.

Now I've got a Wii and a hankering to make good on my previous behavior!
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-Slonie

[dongle]

I bought this game solely on your recommendations and I do not regret my purchase one bit.

[JamesE]

[Baines]

[dongle]

my friend on resident evil 4: "this game is better than girls. i mean, i can't shoot my girlfriend in the head and get such a visceral response"

(he got dumped recently)

(we felt really guilty about the misogyny afterward)

[shrugtheironteacup]

This thread inspired me to go back and make a run at Professional Mode on GC.

As it turns out a year or so of not playing plus the fact that my last few playthroughs were with chicago typewriter/infinite RPG has left me in no state to try Pro Mode.

My ass was handed to me in the village. Repeatedly.
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[Pavement]

I thought the game effectively maintained tension throughout. In the beginning you'd be relatively low on firepower, and every battle is tactical and intense. Right after getting into the castle, when Leon becomes a one-man army, the game throws more inventive set-pieces and enemies at you, preventing you from abusing your stats in rote combat. The castle is like a bottleneck, holding you back from plowing through the rest of the game. When the island comes in, the arcadey pump-up feel kicks in, and the ending of the game becomes cathartic run and gun. It's very well-paced.

I did think the difficulty levels were badly managed, however. Professional is not all that much harder than Normal, and New Game++ does not have a corresponding raise in enemy stats. I wanted more of the original, first-time-through-the-village feel, so I did a Pro run without using the Merchant. That was a perfect recreation of classic Resident Evil.

Also I just finished a playthrough without using any healing items, but it wasn't as gratifying. Almost all of my 200+ deaths were from being hit by random projectiles, and almost all of them occured in the same room.
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The longer you play this game, the worse it gets.

[EU03]

I felt the same. Whenever I got a new shotgun or pistol, I felt like the king of the world...until ammo got sparse really quickly. Though I never did run out, there were times that I felt compelled to use only the knife. There were some seriously nerve-wracking moments in the castle, especially in the large room were the priests seem to spawn endlessly (though they do stop). I would restart if I felt that I used too many bullets and shells. I ended up using up almost all of my grenades and using the rocket launcher in the initial rush of baddies with the shields.

Or maybe I just suck with ammo conservation.

Then again, the last sequence was pretty easy, seeing how I sold everything except for my Blacktail and Striker to get a Broken Butterfly (yes, I missed the free one) and pump it up to 50 damage.

Man, I really need to go back and actually finish Mercenaries!
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[BotageL]

This game is just damn fun. It did oh-so-much right - the controls are simple and easy to grasp, combat's a thrill, the cutscenes are the good and awesome kind of campy, context-sensitive actions are awesome, and it led to my GOTY 2006, God Hand. Hell yeah.

One of my favorite moments of my original RE4 playthrough was the time I spent all my ammo fighting the (GC) disc 1 ending boss, in a challenging and lengthy showdown, and then I went to #IC to talk about the fight and found out that he went down in about two rocket launcher blasts. Then I loaded my next-most-recent save, charged through the area leading up to him, grabbed me two rocket launchers, and blew the everloving fuck out of him. It felt good. So good.
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[les meat]

I could never stand the RE games, all that fixed camera and videos of doors opening and not scary at all because all the events were so predictable because the room would be so obviously set up for it.

But RE 4 fucking hell everything about it is perfect

I love the restricted control system, I can't believe some fools were moaning because it wasn't fps style controls. Can they not see that things are not scary if they're easy to get away from, fuck circle strafing its a ridiculous concept.

A friend of mine shot the shopkeeper first time he met him then saved and I think he than had to play through without a shop.

I would love Silent Hill if it played like this.
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[boojiboy7]

BUt if Silent Hill played like RE4, it would not be Silent Hill.

[les meat]

[Baines]

[Kriv]

I've avoided this on the grounds of the god awful control schemes of the previous versions on the cube. Has RE4 actually come up with a decent scheme?
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[Dracko]

It's managed to work with its tank controls to make it something else altogether. It's really quite brilliant.
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[BotageL]

[Baines]

Indeed, the few classic RE puzzles present really stick out. Mainly I think of the one behind the church.

[winkerwatson]

Resident Evil 2 is still brilliant guys.
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[Toto]

I very much like RE4,, but the highlight is most definitely Mercenaries.
Apparently REWii is modelled after the Mercenaries so I'm quite excited.
RE2 is good but I was always bad at the old RE games.
Maybe I should go back, 6 years later, and HAMMER this game.
Like get the Gatling Gun.
And unlock Tofu.

[Predator Goose]

[Adilegian]

[another coma]

[SuperWes]

[another coma]

regarding dino crisis 3,

It's like they tried to apply a band-aid to the fixed angles by having it swoop all over the place, but they actually made it worse because even then the camera seems to pick new dramatic angles to sit at constantly, making it difficult to work around the problem through memorization.

It's like they couldn't let go of that damn camera but developed a game that was built around a fixed one anyway. and then they had to go and retain some of the arcade like stuff from part two on top of that to make you feel more hopeless! it's a shame, because blasting dinosaurs IN SPACE is such a good concept but the game is so unplayable.
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[Baines]