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Toto
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:04 am |
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Loose women sackings crisis
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spinach
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:17 am |
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In other news: Top ISPs agree to become copyright cops
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Some of the top ISPs, including Comcast, Cablevision, Verizon, and Time Warner Cable, have officially agreed to step up efforts to protect the rights of copyright owners, a move first reported last month by CNET.
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The new system of enforcement looks a lot like the old system. The ISPs send out a series of notifications and warnings--which many ISPs have done for years--to someone suspected of illegally downloading films and music. What is new is that if the warnings are ignored, then the ISPs will eventually implement a series of tougher measures.
Those suspected of chronic abuse of copyright laws will face penalties. Multiple warnings are supposed to be followed up by one of several responses that ISPs can choose from, such as throttling down an accused user's Web-connection speed to blocking them from surfing the Web altogether.
"These Mitigation Measures may include, for example: temporary reductions of Internet speeds, redirection to a landing page until the subscriber contacts the ISP to discuss the matter or reviews and responds to some educational information about copyright," the parties said in a statement.
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ISPs had balked at adopting a graduated response plan for years. But last month, CNET reported that the White House was instrumental in encouraging the parties to reach an agreement, sources with knowledge of the talks said at the time. President Obama has said intellectual property is important to the country's economy and has vowed to step up the fight against piracy and counterfeiting.
His administration has lobbied Congress for the past several years to pass new pro-copyright legislation while instructing federal law enforcement to make antipiracy a priority. |
Should you fear new ISP copyright enforcers?
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For the past three years, many of the big ISPs have declined to adopt "graduated response" programs. That's the term coined by big media to describe when ISPs ratchet up pressure on the people suspected of acquiring intellectual property without paying for it.
The respective trade groups for the top music and film companies, the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and Motion Picture Association of America, naturally wanted the toughest penalties they could get. Originally they had asked that the ISPs adopt a "three-strikes" plan, which would would mean a user received three warnings from a bandwidth provider before service was suspended or terminated. The ISPs said no way.
In the end, the ISPs held their noses and began looking for ways to cover themselves against PR hits. Instead of three strikes, the ISPs opted for six strikes. They also padded the program with so-called educational aspects but regardless of all the distractions, there's no way to cover up that the ISPs have agreed to levy punishments on customers.
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Among McSherry's greatest fears is that this is only the first step. She sees the potential, now that big media firms have the ability to push ISPs into copyright enforcement, that they will continue to pressure them to keep ratcheting up the penalties against suspected file sharers.
Is McSherry sympathetic to the ISPs who have faced government pressure to do more on antipiracy? Not so much.
"I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that the ISPs are under tremendous pressure and that's why they're knuckling under," McSherry said. "But their first loyalty should be to their subscribers. Not Hollywood.
"At the end of the day," McSherry said, "this is unlikely to accomplish much. All it will do is intimidate a lot of lawful users. Are we going to see the end of online infringement? I doubt that very much. It will be more valuable for the White House, ISPs and Hollywood if they found better ways to getting artists paid instead of focusing on punishment." |
I wish there was a list somewhere that laid out exactly which ISPs agreed to this but all I can find so far is just mentions like in these articles where it says "top service providers including etc.". Wording it that way makes it seem like there are more that have signed on to this that they aren't telling you about. |
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Mr. Mechanical
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:31 am |
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Come on dude what's that supposed to mean.
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spinach
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:12 am |
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a bunch of things, mostly that this doesn't actually mean anything. more thoughts as they come up:
-lawsuits have become an alternate revenue stream for rights holders
-the suits have finally started going after the peers and not the servers, responding to "they can't arrest us all" by trying to do just that
-the most heavily pirated media products also happen to be the highest selling, across the board, without exception
-a friend relayed to me a conversation with an elderly southern gentlemen wherein he (the gentleman) expressed the whole point of law is to protect property and its owners, and when he (the gentleman) was younger, one couldn't even vote if one held no property
-prince makes an ungodly amount of money giving his albums away for free
-free media is gaining an increasing amount of popularity on the web (wolf gang)
-it's still incredibly easy to hop on free connections to pirate media
-i wonder if royalties get paid out from lawsuits and settlements?
-the music and movie industries are both just a century old but people had already been making music forever and stageplays were totally a thing
-copyright has recently received yet another extension and does not lapse till 150 years after the death of the author
-fuck the police
RIP music and movies 1890-2011 it's been real
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spinach
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also there's that video of harlan elison talking about suing a guy that downloaded a copy of his book and he's totally getting off on catching this goddamn dirty thief and at one point he screams FUCK YOU and it's hilarious 'cause he's really just having a moment of vindictive satisfaction after years of declining book sales which began long before the internet and he's just completely fucked up an opportunity for genuine human connection with one of the dwindling numbers of people who honestly enjoy his books still. fuck, man, so few people pirate his books, he was actually able to pin one of them down!
that sort of thing right there, it is goddamn hilarious.
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Mr. Mechanical
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:21 am |
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Oh I see. Yeah, I agree with you in that it probably doesn't really change much. They can fine me and threaten me with jail all they want, I just don't want my bandwidth throttled.
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spinach
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:27 am |
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all our bandwidth is throttled already, man. can you believe these fucks convinced washington our broadband is the best in the world, even as our own army currently makes use of the far superior network infrastructure of south korea?
what's up with that community isp out of south carolina from a couple years back, is anybody current on that? i think it was called greenlight? comcast sued them for offering up ten times its own bandwidth for cheap.
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Mr. Mechanical
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:23 am |
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Whoa I had not heard about the community isp thing. We should all start shit like that in our areas.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:27 pm |
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Welp...has the brief window of opportunity finally been shut, locked and boarded yet? |
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Mr. Mechanical
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:26 pm |
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| The King wrote: |
| America launched their last shuttle mission. The pilots were fitted for cosmonaut gear, because if anything goes wrong they need to come back in Russian spacecraft as there won't be any American shuttles to rescue them. |
Welp...has the brief window of opportunity finally been shut, locked and boarded yet? |
Nah it seems the mantra from now is "Let the private sector handle it". So the window of opportunity will still be there but attempts to open it and pass through it will only happen when it's profitable and only for those who can already afford it.
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allensmithee
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:33 pm |
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Yeah man, I have a friend in a band and he knows guys in bands and one of these guys in bands was bitching and whining that Oh no, people are pirating our music! and basically my friend in a band was telling him how This is the best thing that can happen to you anyway, since you only really make money on shows and the odd shirt and really it means that people actually want to hear your shit, I wish people pirated our music!
If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery then piracy is the sincerest indication of fans.
After all, only Lady Gaga and Kanye West make money on record sales and DING DING DING their albums get pirated the most as well.
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parker
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:34 pm |
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| what's up with that community isp out of south carolina from a couple years back, is anybody current on that? i think it was called greenlight? comcast sued them for offering up ten times its own bandwidth for cheap. |
Yeah I was wondering what happened with that too
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Mr. Mechanical
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:36 pm |
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Anonymous Hackers Breach Booz Allen Hamilton, Dump 90,000 Military Email Addresses
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The summer of anti-security rolls on.
As part of the spree of data breaches that the loose hacker movement Anonymous is calling AntiSec, the group announced Monday that it had penetrated a server belonging to the defense contractor Booz Allen Hamilton and released what it claims are 90,000 military email addresses, encrypted passwords and an assortment of data related to other companies and government networks. It also claims to have accessed and deleted four gigabytes of the firm’s source code.
“In [Booz Allen Hamilton's] line of work you’d expect them to sail the seven proxseas with a state-of-the-art battleship, right? Well you may be as surprised as we were when we found their vessel being a puny wooden barge,” reads the group’s statement posted to the Pirate Bay. “We infiltrated a server on their network that basically had no security measures in place.”
Though the passwords included in the leak are scrambled, Anonymous’ statement claims that the passwords are encrypted with an MD5 function that is widely considered to be insecure. |
This could turn out to be pretty major considering Booz Allen is one of the big fish contractors in the military-industrial-complex.
And here's the Pirate Bay torrent of the emails, if you're so inclined.
| Code: |
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__| || |__ _____ _____/ |_|__| ______ ____ ____ #antisec
\ __ / \__ \ / \ __\ |/ ___// __ \_/ ___\ #anonops
| || | / __ \| | \ | | |\___ \\ ___/\ \___ #laughing
/_ ~~ _\ (____ /___| /__| |__/____ \ \___ \ \___ | #at_your
|_||_| \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ #security
/*******************************************************************************
*** MILITARY MELTDOWN MONDAY: MANGLING BOOZ ALLEN HAMILTON ***
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Hello Thar!
Today we want to turn our attention to Booz Allen Hamilton, whose core business
is contractual work completed on behalf of the US federal government, foremost
on defense and homeland security matters, and limited engagements of foreign
governments specific to U.S. military assistance programs.
So in this line of work you'd expect them to sail the seven proxseas with a
state- of-the-art battleship, right? Well you may be as surprised as we were
when we found their vessel being a puny wooden barge.
We infiltrated a server on their network that basically had no security
measures in place. We were able to run our own application, which turned out to
be a shell and began plundering some booty. Most shiny is probably a list of
roughly 90,000 military emails and password hashes (md5, non-salted of course!).
We also added the complete sqldump, compressed ~50mb, for a good measure.
We also were able to access their svn, grabbing 4gb of source code. But this
was deemed insignificant and a waste of valuable space, so we merely grabbed
it, and wiped it from their system.
Additionally we found some related datas on different servers we got access to
after finding credentials in the Booz Allen System. We added anything which
could be interesting.
And last but not least we found maps and keys for various other treasure chests
buried on the islands of government agencies, federal contractors and shady
whitehat companies. This material surely will keep our blackhat friends busy
for a while.
A shoutout to all friendly vessels: Always remember, let it flow!
#AntiSec
/*******************************************************************************
*** BONUS ROUND: BOOZ ALLEN HAMILTON KEY FACTS ***
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For the Lazy we have assembled some facts about Booz Allen. First let's take a
quick look of who these guys are. Some key personnel:
* John Michael "Mike" McConnell, Executive Vice President of Booz Allen and
former Director of the National Security Agency (NSA) and former Director of
National Intelligence.
* James R. Clapper, Jr., current Director of National Intelligence, former
Director of Defense Intelligence.
* Robert James Woolsey Jr, former Director of National Intelligence and head
of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
* Melissa Hathaway, Current Acting Senior Director for Cyberspace for the
National Security and Homeland Security Councils
Now let's check out what these guys have been doing:
* Questionable involvement in the U.S. government's SWIFT surveillance program;
acting as auditors of a government program, when that contractor is heavily
involved with those same agencies on other contracts. Beyond that, the
implication was also made that Booz Allen may be complicit in a program
(electronic surveillance of SWIFT) that may be deemed illegal by the EC.
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/booz-allens-extensive-ties-government
-raise-more-questions-about-swift-surveillanc
https://www.privacyinternational.org/article/pi-and-aclu-show-swift-auditor-
has-extensive-ties-us-government
* Through investigation of Booz Allen employees, Tim Shorrock of Democracy Now!
asserts that there is a sort of revolving-door conflict of interest between
Booz Allen and the U.S. government, and between multiple other contractors and
the U.S. government in general. Regarding Booz Allen, Shorrock referred to such
people as John M. McConnell, R. James Woolsey, Jr., and James R. Clapper, all
of whom have gone back and forth between government and industry (Booz Allen in
particular), and who may present the appearance that certain government
contractors receive undue or unlawful business from the government, and that
certain government contractors may exert undue or unlawful influence on
government. Shorrock further relates that Booz Allen was a sub-contractor with
two programs at the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), called Trailblazer and
Pioneer Groundbreaker.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/12/151224
If you haven't heard about Pioneer Groundbreaker, we recommend the following
Wikipedia article:
"The NSA warrantless surveillance controversy (AKA "Warrantless Wiretapping")
concerns surveillance of persons within the United States during the collection
of foreign intelligence by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) as part of
the war on terror."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_Groundbreaker
* A June 28, 2007 Washington Post article related how a U.S. Department of
Homeland Security contract with Booz Allen increased from $2 million to more
than $70 million through two no-bid contracts, one occurring after the DHS's
legal office had advised DHS not to continue the contract until after a review.
A Government Accountability Office (GAO) report on the contract characterized
it as not well-planned and lacking any measure for assuring valuable work to be
completed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/27/
AR2007062702988.html
* Known as PISCES (Personal Identification Secure Comparison and Evaluation
System), the ΓΓé¼┼ôterrorist interdiction systemΓΓé¼┬¥ matches passengers inbound for the
United States against facial images, fingerprints and biographical information
at airports in high-risk countries. A high-speed data network permits U.S.
authorities to be informed of problems with inbound passengers. Although PISCES
was operational in the months prior to September 11, it apparently failed to
detect any of the terrorists involved in the attack.
Privacy advocates have alleged that the PISCES system is deployed in various
countries that are known for human rights abuses (ie Pakistan and Iraq) and
that facilitating them with an advanced database system capable of storing
biometric details of travelers (often without consent of their own nationals)
poses a danger to human rights activists and government opponents.
http://multinationalmonitor.org/mm2002/02march/march02corp3.html
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*** BONUS ROUND TWO: ANONYMOUS INTERESTS ***
*******************************************************************************/
Back in February, as many may recall, Anonymous was challenged by security
company HBGary. One month later - after many grandiose claims and several pages
of dox on "members" of Anonymous which were factually accurate in no way
whatsoever - HBGary and its leadership were busy ruing the day they ever
tangled with Anonymous, and Anonymous was busy toasting another epic trolling.
And there was much rejoicing. However, celebration soon gave way to
fascination, followed by horror, as scandal after scandal radiated from the
company's internal files, scandals spanning the government, corporate and
financial spheres. This was no mere trolling. Anonymous had uncovered a
monster.
One of the more interesting, and sadly overlooked, stories to emerge from
HBGary's email server (a fine example to its customers of how NOT to secure
their own email systems) was a military project - dubbed Operation Metal Gear
by Anonymous for lack of an official title - designed to manipulate social
media. The main aims of the project were two fold: Firstly, to allow a lone
operator to control multiple false virtual identities, or "sockpuppets". This
would allow them to infiltrate discussions groups, online polls, activist
forums, etc and attempt to influence discussions or paint a false
representation of public opinion using the highly sophisticated sockpuppet
software. The second aspect of the project was to destroy the concept of online
anonymity, essentially attempting to match various personas and accounts to a
single person through recognition shared of writing styles, timing of online
posts, and other factors. This, again, would be used presumably against any
perceived online opponent or activist.
HBGary Federal was just one of several companies involved in proposing software
solutions for this project. Another company involved was Booz Allen Hamilton.
Anonymous has been investigating them for some time, and has uncovered all
sorts of other shady practices by the company, including potentially illegal
surveillance systems, corruption between company and government officials,
warrantless wiretapping, and several other questionable surveillance projects.
All of this, of course, taking place behind closed doors, free from any public
knowledge or scrutiny.
You would think the words "Expect Us" would have been enough to prevent another
epic security fail, wouldn't you?
Well, you'd be wrong. And thanks to the gross incompetence at Booz Allen
Hamilton probably all military mersonnel of the U.S. will now have to change
their passwords.
Let it flow!
/*******************************************************************************
*** INVOICE ***
*******************************************************************************/
Enclosed is the invoice for our audit of your security systems, as well as the
auditor's conclusion.
4 hours of man power: $40.00
Network auditing: $35.00
Web-app auditing: $35.00
Network infiltration*: $0.00
Password and SQL dumping**: $200.00
Decryption of data***: $0.00
Media and press****: $0.00
Total bill: $310.00
*Price is based on the amount of effort required.
**Price is based on the amount of badly secured data to be dumped, which in
this case was a substantial figure.
***No security in place, no effort for intrusion needed.
****Trolling is our specialty, we provide this service free of charge.
Auditor's closing remarks: Pwned. U mad, bro?
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We are Antisec.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us. |
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allensmithee
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:41 pm |
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Why do people have to do stuff like that?
Maybe it is a statement and an urging or something and I can get behind that (not to sound like an iconoclast). It is that it risks hurting so many people for a message or statement or even a gain that I can't wrap my head around.
Maybe they're making like Penguin and selling information? I don't know. I don't really want to know.
Well, reading that sort of creepy manifesto, it seems like some kind of radical political attempt at bettering the world, like Guy Fawkes or something.
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Mr. Mechanical
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:48 pm |
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It's basically trolling with some idealism mixed in. Or maybe the other way around. It's hard to tell sometimes.
There's a chance good stuff will come of this, like uncovering actual evidence of the kind of shady stuff we all just assume is par for the course at a company like BAH.
But there is also the chance for blowback. I can just see antisec's activities this summer being used as the pretext for even stricter laws that place tighter controls on internet freedom and such. The US government/military-industrial-complex isn't going to take this sort of thing lying down. They will respond and probably overreach in their response, and the rest of us will have to suffer for it.
Makes me wonder what the internet will look like a year from now. We might just all find ourselves living under Chinese or Saudi Arabian style internet censorship.
As for the risk of this information hurting innocent service members by being released, well, I guarantee you if it does hurt any of them in any way we will hear all about it for several weeks on every major news network. Remember all those people who were supposedly at risk of danger when Wikileaks released their documents? Pretty interesting that we never actually heard of a single confirmed instance of that happening, outside of that ambassador from Nigeria.
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CubaLibre
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:35 am |
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My cousin is a Booz Allen shill. Wonder what she thinks of this.
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parker
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:54 am |
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| spinach wrote: |
| what's up with that community isp out of south carolina from a couple years back, is anybody current on that? i think it was called greenlight? comcast sued them for offering up ten times its own bandwidth for cheap. |
Yeah I was wondering what happened with that too |
Found this http://savencbb.wordpress.com/
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:23 pm |
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| parker wrote: |
| spinach wrote: |
| what's up with that community isp out of south carolina from a couple years back, is anybody current on that? i think it was called greenlight? comcast sued them for offering up ten times its own bandwidth for cheap. |
Yeah I was wondering what happened with that too |
Found this http://savencbb.wordpress.com/ |
Relevant bits of the bill that was passed
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(a) A city‑owned communications service provider shall meet all of the following requirements:
(3) Limit the provision of communications service to within the corporate limits of the city providing the communications service.
(8) Shall not price any communications service below the cost of providing the service ...
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Essentially the cable company is limiting the damage the better service that Wilson County has provided on its own. What still can happen is each city/county doing the same thing: start their own broadband service. Enough places do that, the established companies are going to have to rethink their strategies. |
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CubaLibre
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| What still can happen is each city/county doing the same thing: start their own broadband service. |
But they can't subsidize it.
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A Visit to the Warehouse of Soul-Crushing Sadness
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A few days later, I had breakfast with someone who coincidentally works with the CEOs of logistics companies. Telling him about the conditions and the sterility and the mind-numbing sadness of the warehouse made him almost too bummed to eat his oatmeal. "Somebody did studies and spreadsheets and crunched those numbers," he said, "and figured out that the cheapest way to get that job done is to treat people like that." Which is important, he explained, because "the profit margins on those contracts are razor thin." Of course. A lot of the Internet retailers' merchandise is nearly worthless—ice princess star-shaped ice cube trays, cheap sunglasses, anthropomorphic stuffed bacon toys—and is sold for nearly nothing, often with free or reduced-price shipping.
Susie told me it's pretty dispiriting to act as though her workers are as disposable as the products they're shipping. But that's just the way it is, she said. The logistics clients aren't interested in spending money on a better or more sustainable work culture. Nor do they need to. There are 100 people employed in the warehouse I visited, and Susie could fire every one of them today without costing her bosses a dime of lost profits. She has applications from hundreds of people ready to take the job. |
Phone-hacking: US senator calls for News Corp probe
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Senate Commerce Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller said the authorities should consider whether journalists working for the media giant had broken US law.
He warned of "serious consequences" should that be found to be the case.
The 168-year-old News of the World shut down on Sunday after numerous accusations of phone hacking.
Other papers owned by Rupert Murdoch have faced similar allegations.
Mr Rockefeller, a Democrat, was the first major voice in the US Congress to call for an investigation into the scandal, which has gripped Britain.
The BBC's Steve Kingstone in Washington says these are the first signs that the hacking story is extending across the Atlantic.
In a written statement, Mr Rockefeller said he was concerned that hacking by News Corporation journalists may have extended to American targets, including victims of the 11 September attacks.
He did not present any evidence to support that claim, but called on the authorities to look into any possible wrong-doing.
"I encourage the appropriate agencies to investigate to ensure that Americans have not had their privacy violated," he said.
"The reported hacking by News Corporation newspapers against a range of individuals - including children - is offensive and a serious breach of journalistic ethics. This raises serious questions about whether the company has broken US law," he said.
Mr Murdoch's American assets include Fox News, The Wall Street Journal, the New York Post and Harper Collins publishers. |
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boojiboy7
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This article, and her previous one in the Ohio series, make me ever more glad I got the hell out of Central Ohio. |
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I'm just poking in because I wanted to put this somewhere: Couple'a days ago I heard someone on the teevee saying that many on "the left" appear to have begun interpreting the first amendment as 'the freedom to worship only Christianity in any way that you'd like', and I found that to be a funny-because-it's-true kind of joke. It tied with my impression that the conservatively-brained population seems to be fueling American jingoism with some high octane religiosity of the Christian persuasion lately. I guessed that it had something to do with the rise of neoconservativism, and just left it at that.
Today I started watching a presentation about culturomics, which got into the topic of Ngrams, and that inspired me to lightly, casually test the hypothesis:
Right out of the gate, the rise of the term "neoconservative" coincides amusingly with the time that it took for the "god bless america" mentality to foment into political activism -- until the late 90s, where "god bless america" drops sharply, most probably due to computer aided spell checking. So, obviously this thing is case sensitive, and I toss in some capitalization variations:
"God Bless America" is indeed much more prevalent, being used heavily during WW2's propaganda recognition, and then that aforementioned ramp and spike of neoconservativism.
"God bless America" is also interesting, showing that this buzz term correlates to WW1 as well.
As a bonus, I threw in "neocon", which became popular around the time that the ideologues of red team went from 'conservatives' to 'pop cultural lunatic conservatives'. Just kinda funny.
Tangentially related, and of course unsurprising: being threatened with terrorism hinders rational thought.
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The only thing that will end Nancy Grace is age. She can do nothing to get off the air, this side of a sex scandal.
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Winona Ghost Ryder
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Dark Age Iron Savior
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Dracko
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Rud31
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RobotRocker
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Ahahahaahahaha.
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Murdoch (and son) is getting hammered live on CSPAN and the BBC.
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| Somehow I doubt this will amount to much other than lot's of oh I don't recall...I don't remember...It was a different time... I'm sorry but my mind is hazy... |
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Winona Ghost Ryder
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Winona Ghost Ryder
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CubaLibre
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Terrorists just hate the freedoms that Norwegians enjoy. And their tallness, and blonde hair, and universal healthcare.
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