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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:59 am        Reply with quote

Mr. Mechanical wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11611319

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Wikileaks has released almost 400,000 secret US military records, which suggest US commanders ignored evidence of torture by the Iraqi authorities.

The documents also suggest "hundreds" of civilians were killed at US military checkpoints after the invasion in 2003.

And the files show the US kept records of civilian deaths, despite previously denying it. The death toll was put at 109,000, of whom 66,081 were civilians.

The US criticised the largest leak of classified documents in its history.

Speaking to reporters in Washington earlier, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she condemned "in the most clear terms the disclosure of any information by individuals and or organisations which puts the lives of United States and its partners' service members and civilians at risk".


Maybe try not starting unnecessary wars of aggression next time I dunno.

but the economy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:47 pm        Reply with quote

Goodbye 2010. Hello 1984. wrote:
"There's a lot of convenience to this--you'll have nothing to carry except your eyes," says Carter, claiming that consumers will no longer be carded at bars and liquor stores. And he has a warning for those thinking of opting out: "When you get masses of people opting-in, opting out does not help. Opting out actually puts more of a flag on you than just being part of the system. We believe everyone will opt-in."

This is a terrible reasoning.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:17 am        Reply with quote

antitype wrote:
Also just because, as I'm sure you mean: wait, opting out means I'll be under stricter surveillance than I would if I opt in because I'll be "flagged" as an abstainer? A potential threat to society? Well, that makes sense.

Yes, this is what I meant. "If you don't get with the system so we can known who isn't a threat, then you're self-identifying as a threat because we just can't know." It's a stupid marketer hawking his trash, but it uncomfortably parallels the rhetoric of gungho security.

antitype wrote:
What if they grow up without it and face absurd ostracism

I had to read and re-read this word for about a minute because I kept parsing "ost-" as a prefix meaning "east."

"East racism? What is 'East Racism'? I don't like the root idea, racism, so I guess I'm against this on principle, but OH RIGHT SHUNNING."
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:44 am        Reply with quote

Looking forward to that, Mr. Mech.

I'm not liking the looks or news of those full body airport scanners. I'm considering canceling flight plans in early mid December and just driving to my sister's wedding five states away.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:30 am        Reply with quote

Flylighter wrote:
Dracko wrote:
Julian Assange is a monster!


Day X: Julian Assange announces he's going after the banks.
Day X+1: FAKE RAPE CHARGES

I also notice that, after that announcement, Wikileaks is now enduring its most visible attacks on its servers and web presence. I very much want the Streisand effect to undermine those efforts.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:17 am        Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:
Christopher Hitchens, being an apologist pundit.

This is pretty weak.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:38 pm        Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:
Cuba, Hitchens calling anyone a dishonourable shitbag is the height of hypocrisy. He's not one to talk.

Particularly when his point of comparison is what he would have done had he been privy to confidential documents in a hypothetical past, as compared to what Assange is doing in this fairly extraordinary situation.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:05 pm        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
The article's overblown and its rhetoric wheezy.

That's pretty much where the article stakes its merit and dies: it waxes Hitch-rhetoric (in all its revel in lobbing abuse) on a point that's beyond irrelevant to what's significant about Wikileaks and the issues extending from its work.

I don't care if Assange is a shitbag. Who does? Why?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:30 pm        Reply with quote

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America's new Immigration act to offer citizenship to illegals who finish college or serve in the military

The film version of Starship Troopers is supposed to be satire, America.

The DREAM Act? I thought that had been taken off the table months ago for being a manipulative means of inflating enlistment numbers.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:55 pm        Reply with quote

Dark Age Iron Savior wrote:
Adilegian wrote:
The DREAM Act? I thought that had been taken off the table months ago for being a manipulative means of inflating enlistment numbers.


er, what?
Even if that criticism of it is granted as valid (I wouldn't know), I very much doubt it would be held back for that reason (as opposed to "them illegals gonna ruin the country"). I'd be surprised to find more than a dozen people (politicians or pundits) argue the point you're making.

Is there some bigger progressive-discerned downside to it than the general sentiment that we don't need to be emphasizing our military/defense?

It's been months since I'd paid attention to the DREAM Act so the details of its erstwhile condition aren't on the front of my mind right now. I'm about to catch a plane, but I'll see if I have time later to find what my old sources were.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:45 am        Reply with quote

This is great if only for the unironic use of the phrase "God-given sexual power."

http://jezebel.com/#!5792806/utah-republican-to-eliminate-premarital-sex
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:44 am        Reply with quote

username wrote:
I don't mind the asking for prayer since it is delivered in a non-denominational kind of way, but it strikes me as rather tacky to declare this for the three holiest days of the christian year.

More pews get packed during Easter. It's a way of maximizing the effect! (?)

Because God only listens to prayers the come from churches. (!) (?)
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:07 am        Reply with quote

internisus wrote:
We're not going to stop universal war until we have universal resources and get rid of religion. So I'd start with very ambitious solar and wind energy development and public ridicule of people who believe in anything supernatural.

Oh my.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:27 am        Reply with quote

remote wrote:
Aw, Adi, I don't think you had to delete your comment.

I just don't think there's a conversation to be had here that hasn't happened before. I only meant to point out the ridiculousness of such an extreme point of view, and I'm not too interested in getting into it beyond that.
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 4:12 am        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
I am an atheist and there are plenty of things I'd kill for.

Collaborating with this, I'm theist and none of the things I'd kill for are essentially religious.
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:33 am        Reply with quote

evnvnv wrote:
evnvnv wrote:
War will not end until language and culture are eliminated. Who's with me?


it sounds absurd, but in your hearts you know i am right. religion is just a side effect or byproduct of these two ills of human society.

They made me the monster(s) I am today. I am proof of this of me.

Oh yes.
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 5:02 am        Reply with quote

psiga wrote:
Freeman, this one's for you! Clif on a nearly-full-tilt textbook-classic schizoid conspiracy rant: http://www.halfpasthuman.com/power.html

He is making a plea to the time travel industry to save us from the engineered nuclear meltdown apocalypse.

I guess this means the latest report looks awesome.

BRB, collecting my eschalotogical framework.

(This is scary stuff!)
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:38 am        Reply with quote

psiga wrote:
I'm not really afraid of that scenario, but I'm not totally confident either.

This is largely my position, too. Honestly, the different positions on what to worry about VS what to dismiss are sol comparable in terms of credibility, I'm in the "well I guess let's wait and see" camp.
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:39 am        Reply with quote

Adilegian wrote:
sol comparable

An incidental pun, but I'm keeping it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:12 am        Reply with quote

evnvnv wrote:
this is fucked up shit y'all

i know there is lots of stuff in the world to be pissed about worse than this, but still. western civilization, what have you become ;-;

Oh wow.

Wow.
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:07 pm        Reply with quote

P1d40n3 wrote:
wha-what?

What am I looking at guys?

The Fulbright is one of the best established grants for academic international research and teaching projects in America -- particularly, I believe, for the Humanities. (I've never heard of a Fulbright going toward the sciences, but I also mostly hung out around Humanities departments.)

Unless it's being replaced by some other source of funding -- and even then, it would depend on the agendas and responsibilities attached to that alternative -- this is a pretty big middle finger to Humanities research.

This is a pretty big deal.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:34 am        Reply with quote

Vikram Ray wrote:
So, who ya'll voting for next year?

Everyone.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:43 am        Reply with quote

Presbyterian Church (USA) finalizes the move to ordain ministers irrespective of sexual orientation. It's about time! I'm proud of my church.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:04 am        Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:
Let's all cheer up and read about Richard Dawkins acting like a teenager RE: girls.

This site is pretty entertaining. Also Dawkins probably could do better for the case of PZ Myers' desecrating the Catholic Eucharist than comparing it to why women are being stupid for being upset at "words." It implies that a modicum of respect for other people's feelings on matters that don't impact him personally is in order.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:25 pm        Reply with quote

bemanimegami wrote:
Though I do understand his frustration in facing discrimination from people who believe in fairy stories, and insist that everyone else needs to believe in fairy stories, as well.

Evangelism can be pretty obnoxious, yeah.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:42 am        Reply with quote

spectralsound wrote:
i never feel like i know enough about current events

That's one of the reasons why this is one of my favorite GBF threads!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:00 pm        Reply with quote

Talbain wrote:
Well, Texas is coming close to having mandatory water rationing. The lakes are getting awfully close to desertification. There have been a lot of wildfires, both man-made and from spontaneous combustion.

Whoa, I missed this!

I haven't been grilling this summer because I don't want to risk burning down my neighborhood. It really is that hot down here.

Are you in Austin, Talbain?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:41 am        Reply with quote

Texican Rude wrote:
how close is OK to water shortages? Because we are getting pretty damn close to that.
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We're getting near it here too. I think we're getting cautions against watering our lawns.

Last year, summer was the season when I'd have to cut my grass every week. This year, the entire neighborhood is brown and yellow with dead grass.

There's a drainage canal that runs behind my house that I sometimes kick my soccerball in when it's not draining water. There's been nothing flowing through there for over a month, but this is not a collective gain for me because it is still too damn hot to go out there and kick a soccerball.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:59 pm        Reply with quote

Cocaine Socialist wrote:
The man who will likely challenge Mitt Romney for the Republican Presidential nomination: http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/08/what-expect-rick-perrys-prayer-festival-the-response http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/08/q.html

Oh hell no not Rick Perry oh god
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:02 am        Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:

This coloring book sucks. Like half of it isn't even pictures.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:08 pm        Reply with quote

GG Woody Allin wrote:

lol at the "bigot" rant

lol

"Time out" parses out to "Shut up."

Also his response to the APA equates to "that's just your opinion, man," when he's deferring to another organization for moral authority in his argument (on much less substantive grounds) through his deference to Catholic teaching.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:59 pm        Reply with quote

I don't expect that this is going to make hacktivism seem like the Romantic, cyberpunk-anarchist noble crusade that it might like to continue to be seen as.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:17 pm        Reply with quote

evnvnv wrote:
Dracko wrote:
Not even surprised.


though perhaps some good will come of being able to get away with murdering someone because of unwanted flirtation

Yes, also that the function of authority in a school setting should be directed toward protecting the larger student body from individual idiosyncrasies rather than protecting different kids from bullying.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:22 am        Reply with quote

psiga wrote:
Just a little late, m'lady. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/02/mi5-war-on-terror-criticism
Quote:
Lady Eliza Manningham-Buller, the former head of MI5, delivered a withering attack on the invasion of Iraq, decried the term "war on terror", and held out the prospect of talks with al-Qaida.
[...]
Young Arabs, she said, had no opportunity to choose their own rulers. "For them an external enemy was a unifying way to address some of their frustrations."They were also united by the plight of Palestinians, a view that the west was exploiting their oil and supporting dictators. "It was wrong to say all terrorists belonged to al-Qaida"

Better late than never?

It's at least heartening to know that someone apparently looking at the situation critically for the first time has the clarity to say, "WHAT THE HELL GUYS."
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:19 pm        Reply with quote

Shiren the Launderer wrote:
Hey, something has been bugging me. You guys are likely familiar with the news story about those American "hikers" imprisoned in Iran, right? Who fucking hikes the Iran-Iraq border? I mean, seriously, those guys have to be spooks. Even Democracy Now! seems to accept their story at face value.

As I understand it, they got lost or misdirected and wound up there by accident.

I don't see any reason to disbelieve their story.
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rabite gets whacked! wrote:
Yeah, here's my friend Sammy getting pushed, then further assaulted and arrested, while outside on a break from work checking out what was going on outside- ie, not protesting.


Jesus. This makes me think that I should check in with my old friend who lives up there. Best man at my wedding, guy's an opera singer in NYC and goes through that part of town in his bike to get to work.
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Mr. Mechanical wrote:
http://www.occupytogether.org/

Just found out about this and it turns out there's a meeting in OKC going on right now. I won't be making it tonight but I will definitely keep an eye out for when their next meeting is and go then. Even if it's just 20 people that's something to start with. Y'all should check it out and see if there's anything organizing in a city near you and if not, set something up! You might be surprised how many people show up.

In about a week plus change in Chattanooga. I'm considering going.
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Mr. Mechanical wrote:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/10/03/marines-heading-to-wall-street-to-protect-protesters/

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“I’m heading up there tonight in my dress blues. So far, 15 of my fellow marine buddies are meeting me there, also in Uniform. I want to send the following message to Wall St and Congress:

I didn’t fight for Wall St. I fought for America. Now it’s Congress’ turn.

My true hope, though, is that we Veterans can act as first line of defense between the police and the protester. If they want to get to some protesters so they can mace them, they will have to get through the Fucking Marine Corps first. Let’s see a cop mace a bunch of decorated war vets. I apologize now for typos and errors.

Typing this on iPhone whilst heading to NYC. We can organize once we’re there. That’s what we do best.If you see someone in uniform, gather together.

A formation will be held tonight at 10PM.

We all took an oath to uphold, protect and defend the constitution of this country. That’s what we will be doing.

Hope to see you there!!”

Oh wow. This is getting more heartening by the day.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:40 pm        Reply with quote

The NYTimes is putting more coverage on the Greek protests than the ones happening right at their own doorstep.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:25 pm        Reply with quote

http://htpolitics.com/2011/10/10/rick-scott-wants-to-shift-university-funding-away-from-some-majors/
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BotageL wrote:
rick scott is a piece of shit, film at 11

And he got his ideas on how to fix the economy by fucking over the university system from that other bastion of brilliance, Rick Perry.
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