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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:29 pm        Reply with quote

It is funny that the government's solution to the labyrinthine, redundant intelligence services whose criminal negligence allowed 9/11 to happen is to crate a vastly larger, more labyrinthine, more redundant "counterterrorism community".
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:05 pm        Reply with quote

That apostrophe is really annoying.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:27 pm        Reply with quote

I know they did. It's still really annoying.

Maybe it's a comment the tyranny of the white world's grammar and its history of linguistic oppression.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:07 pm        Reply with quote

Just goes to show that hunger is about distribution, not production. This girl is awesome.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:43 pm        Reply with quote

Contracts aren't obscure by design, nor are people simply too stupid to read them. They're specialized, highly technical documents. It's like saying a medical chart is obscure by design. The problem isn't how the contracts are written but the surfeit of laws that require them to be written that way. And, sure, all the bullshit the credit card companies add in (mandatory arbitration, I'm looking at you).
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:32 am        Reply with quote

extrabastardformula wrote:
You have some fake credit card thing I need to be aware of?

He means debit card.

It's useful having a credit card for emergencies, and also to build credit (one thing on it a month). But using it as your typical means of spending is pretty stupid.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:41 am        Reply with quote

America is a huge country with a massive economy and few borders. It's natural that its citizens fixate on its domestic policies to the exclusion of most other countries', especially when in the foreign arena it remains (disputably and certainly not for long at this rate) the most powerful nation on earth.

Or, if you want to see other domestic politics discussed, then go ahead. There's quite a bit on the UK in this thread, probably because the sb population's second-highest contingent is of Britons. I'm sure I'd have an opinion on Australian politics if you wanted to inform me about them, although it'd be a pretty ignorant opinion. Expecting everyone to have the same fixation on politics everywhere is ludicrous, not to mention impossible. Even a strict internationalist (who believes that all national boundaries are ultimately bunk) cares about his neighbors more than people halfway around the world.

Constitutional fixation is basically an unrelated phenomenon. It's the form that American nationalism takes because it is the literal foundation of American identity. It's no different from Tory fixation on Queen and Country, at least in its emotional aspects. In its legal aspects, the Constitution is the only justification for the forms of American power. Why is there a Congress - why is there a President - why are their terms x length - why do they have the powers they have - that's all contained in the Constitution.

Of course, that doesn't mean the document is inviolable. Actually it says nothing about how "right" or "wrong" the document is. (I think it could stand a lot of improvement, myself.) People who say that any exercise of American power must conform to the Constitution are simply stating a fact. People who say that any exercise of power that conforms to the Constitution is automatically good and any that does not is automatically bad are being emotionally mushy. I must say, that brand of mushiness usually falls to conservatives and I'd be wary of thinking that the "people" your friend talked to were actually liberal, unless they were co-opting the pseudoreligious "Constitution = good" language un/consciously in order to appeal to an American audience whom they perceive has taken an overall shift rightward.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:48 pm        Reply with quote

Mr. Mechanical wrote:
Technically I guess it's not over until the Supreme Court rules on it but this is one more step in that direction.

It's nice to see but if I was a betting man I'd bet that the Supreme Court would rule that homosexuals are not a protected class (they never have before) and that the law does pass rational basis review (only crazy state courts ever say a law fails rational basis, the S.Ct. is too consistent for that).

EDIT: That is, assuming they take cert. Often on social issues they're content to let the states have it out until it really comes to a head.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:26 am        Reply with quote

What's especially hilarious is that the same conservatives that paint the UN as the harbinger of a New World Order will turn around, when politically convenient, and accuse it of being completely impotent to deal with the world's problems (always in order to justify unilateral exercises of US power).
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:00 pm        Reply with quote

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Dr. Laura's tirade was amazing.

A black caller calls in saying that she is married to a white guy and is tired of people in her social circle asking what it's like to be black all the time.

Dr. Laura goes off on an insane tangent about how black people voted for Obama because he is black, tells a story about how her black bodyguard is her dear friend and at some gathering she was at an impromptu basketball game broke out and Laura said that she told her bodyguard "I want you on my team because white men can't jump". Then the caller said that says that these people she deals with also throw around the "nigger" all the time. Dr. Laura retorts that black comedians say "nigger nigger nigger" all the time so it's not fair that white people don't get to, and that the woman needs to lighten up and get a sense of humor if she marries outside her race. The woman is offended that Dr. Laura said the n-word and Laura says "Don't NAACP me". During this all she just kept saying it over and over again. The entire time the caller couldn't get a word in edgewise as Laura went off on this rant. It was just incredible.

Now Dr. Laura is supposed to be some martyr of free speech because a black woman was offended at her using "nigger" over and over so Laura quit her job. This is what Sarah Palin is hitching herself to because Dr. Laura is about "Christian Family Values" and doesn't like Obama.



And of course The Tea Party movement has nothing to do with race. That would be ridiculous.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:33 pm        Reply with quote

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ATTN: Amerikkka

This is silly and Hawking ought to have better things to do.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:41 pm        Reply with quote

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If I was an ex-Hitler Youth enabler of kiddie diddlers I'd keep my trap shut, but that's just me.

What's weird is just how dramatically wrong it is. The Nazis weren't atheist.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:20 am        Reply with quote

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States increasingly are imposing fees on poor criminal defendants who use public defenders even when they can't pay, causing some to go without attorneys, according to two reviews of the nation's largest state criminal justice systems.

A report out Monday by New York University School of Law's Brennan Center for Justice found that 13 of the 15 states with the largest prison populations imposed some charge, including application fees, for access to counsel.

"In practice, these fees often discourage individuals from exercising their constitutional right to an attorney, leading to wrongful convictions, over-incarceration and significant burdens on the operation of courts," the Brennan report concludes.

In Michigan, the report says, the National Legal Aid and Defender Association found the "threat" of having to pay the full cost of assigned counsel caused misdemeanor defendants to waive their right to attorneys 95% of the time.

Holy shit.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:16 am        Reply with quote

Via ruffing.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:19 pm        Reply with quote

a defense contractor from NoVa wrote:
Both main parties are elitist. Washington is full of the same type of arrogant people who look down on those outside the system. These elites don't listen to people like me - we're just part of the country they fly over.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:49 pm        Reply with quote

Asomething Grey (Adrian? Auburn?), sort of philosophical standard-bearer of the practical immortality movement. Not actually a scientist himself though.

EDIT yeah that.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:20 pm        Reply with quote

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Ps cuba your sig is such a vibrant red that it appears to pop out of the screen of my phone in 3d

Thank Namco.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:37 pm        Reply with quote

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Oh fuck, this is so perfect. "We owned most of that debt." Speaking of poor thinking about economics, how about Chinese scare-mongering?

The thing that gets me is the list of "great civilizations" of which it is presented that the US is naturally a part. What do Greece, Rome, Britain and the US have in common? Not fucking much. Isn't China itself a great civilization? Why didn't it make the grade?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:04 pm        Reply with quote

As it happens, Native Americans were migrants who settled on previously uninhabited land.

Perhaps hegemonic would be a better word than imperial, but I think both apply to America. I think what you're looking for is a subset of empire, viz. the colonial ones. America had colonial designs through the time you describe (pre-WWI) but abandoned them basically when everyone else in the Western world did (after WWI - though there were some hangers-on).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:09 pm        Reply with quote

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What really gets me is how much it reminds me of Data from Star Trek. Brent Spiner was a fucking psychic, apparently.

I think it's probably more likely that android creators are inspired by Star Trek.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:40 am        Reply with quote

The only problem with qualifying the vote is that the vote is already the last-ditch repository of public power. The more regulation the more potential for tampering and corruption. This is true in every public institution, but each of those institutions is monitored by some other institution which eventually ends with voters. The buck stops there. If you open voting to regulation (and therefore tampering) you shift the last resort to simple disobedience, which erodes civil society.
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The best you can do is try to educate broadly. But you can't premise the right to vote on a broad education.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:18 am        Reply with quote

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By 'taking a test' I mean something contextually related to the vote at hand. If voting between McCain and Obama, it might ask which candidate voted yes on the bailout bill in '08. Something along those lines. This is not SAT stuff, but relevant things that would show ignorant people to be ignorant.

Even this already opens the door to the corruption I'm talking about. Why is this necessarily relevant to choosing McCain over Obama (especially since the answer is both)? Why would a person need to know the answer to this question, specifically, in order to make a valid vote? By establishing questions "relevant" to the race, you are already shrinking the universe of potential perspectives by which one's vote is valid. If I vote for Obama just because he speaks better than McCain, why should my vote count less than yours? Are you willing to legally dictate, backed by the state's monopoly of violence, that knowing candidates' positions on bills is More Important than their abilities at public speaking?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:29 am        Reply with quote

As it happens, I believe precisely the opposite - especially when it comes to presidents (as opposed to legislators). But now that you've legally weakened my vote I have no way of asserting that my beliefs regarding what makes a good president are ever heard, because you've relatively disenfranchised me.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:40 am        Reply with quote

Sorry I didn't engage you on The Ills of Representative Democracy. My point is already proven, that any such test could and would be used as a means to disenfranchise those seen as unworthy by - who? Whoever writes the tests. Actually, it would by necessity disenfranchise people in that manner even if the people writing the tests had no intent to do so, simply by the fact that they would have to select some subset of relevant criteria to test for. Selecting those criteria by necessity excludes other criteria. This is fine at basically every other stage of governance but at some point the buck has to stop with the public in some manner. Making that last resort the vote is the most socially cohesive and least violent means yet devised.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:17 am        Reply with quote

At that point I'd be hard pressed to say that you could mine any useful data that is not already tainted by ideology. A researcher would have to make a distinction between "commercial indoctrination" and "compelling speech" in the first place.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:24 am        Reply with quote

People don't vote for policies. (Mostly.)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:07 pm        Reply with quote

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People don't vote for policies. (Mostly.)

Then why is it so hard to find any Federal policies that the median voter disagrees with?

Is it? I think it's rather the case that the median voter doesn't know anything about the majority of federal policies.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:28 pm        Reply with quote

That's exactly my point. People don't vote for policies, they vote for "personalities" which extract into "platforms" which have only the vaguest kind of content (like "farm assistance"). Not only do people not vote for specific policies which redistribute wealth in particular ways (which is all that really matters), they don't even really vote for "redistribution of wealth"; they vote for a guy who says "I will redistribute wealth" along with a million other things during a campaign which may or may not be lies.
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That's not an ill, it's a benefit.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:40 pm        Reply with quote

People can't know what they're voting for. Even knowing about, much less writing, federal legislation is a more-than-fulltime job. What they can know is who they're voting for. This is whole the basis of representative democracy in the first place; I don't think it's very controversial. The fact that politicians can lie about who they are is a necessary hazard, no less inevitable or more crippling than the fact that they could lie about what policies mean.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:59 pm        Reply with quote

The politicians don't actually do much legislating. They select staffs that do that.
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Scroll down to the end of that law professors' letter in opposition to the bill. What do you see? Georgetown, Stanford, Carnegie Mellon. What don't you see? Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Chicago. Therefore no senator cares. And why should they.
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The Tea Party was originally not much of anything, which is why it was so easily hijacked. At any rate, I have a feeling that the guy favors property restrictions for voting not because of any considered opinion but because those were the rules at the time of the founding. At its core, the Tea Party is a nationalist nostalgia movement (and therefore proto-fascist); it has no actual ideology.
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That's essentially true but if you dismiss them so easily you completely miss the very deep, very real, and very silly well of fear and resentment upon which those rich people have built. Cynically constructed as it is, it couldn't exist if there weren't this popular reactionary sentiment powering it.
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Hell, I'd visit it.

I thought God was pretty specific to Noah about the ark's dimensions, you know, this many cubits here and this many cubits there. Been a while since I read my Genesis though; it might be that God was described as specific but that the actual dimensions aren't in the text.

As for "the Christian thing to do": even Jesus said you can't just spend all your time and money on the poor.
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Toto wrote:
Dracko wrote:
Christopher Hitchens, being an apologist pundit.

Also Christopher Hitchens has devolved into such a US Government mouthpiece man, shit.

I went into this expecting to hate it, but did you actually read it? The basic argument is that while the leaks themselves are useful Assange the man is a dishonorable shitbag. I haven't seen much to disprove either of these propositions.
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sawtooth wrote:
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sawtooth wrote:
make no mistake: what WL is doing is radical with a capital R.

I enjoy, in a grim way, how many folks see this as Radical, yet when a government that spends as much on its military as all other developed nations combined decides to lie its way into a war, that is not perceived as being even more Radical.


Who, me? I use radical in the sense that it seeks to change the way politics and business are run in a very fundamental way. The government lying its way into an international conflict has been pretty old hat for awhile.

I think we should preserve the world in its original leftist connotation. The substitution of "radical" for "extreme" devalues the concept. As you point out, the military-industrial complex isn't even reactionary, it's just plain old conservative. Meanwhile Islamic "radicals" are in fact reactionaries - they seek the reimposition of an ancient and defunct empire.
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How would you classify a leftist distaste for things that are completely New and Modern? Damien Hirst's artwork? Dubai's architecture?

I wouldn't attach the world to a particular ideological program like marxism or socialism. It's relative: radicalism asks for something that has not been done before. Reactionism asks for something that has come and gone.
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Cuba, Hitchens calling anyone a dishonourable shitbag is the height of hypocrisy. He's not one to talk.

Particularly when his point of comparison is what he would have done had he been privy to confidential documents in a hypothetical past, as compared to what Assange is doing in this fairly extraordinary situation.

The article's overblown and its rhetoric wheezy... but I still haven't heard an actual counterargument to the point. Which is that Assange is pretty much a shitbag. Despite how necessary and/or beneficial the leaks themselves may be.
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How would you classify a leftist distaste for things that are completely New and Modern? Damien Hirst's artwork? Dubai's architecture?

I wouldn't attach the world to a particular ideological program like marxism or socialism. It's relative: radicalism asks for something that has not been done before. Reactionism asks for something that has come and gone.


I thought it was a given that "leftism" is more or less defined by readings and critiques of marx; less a specific program and more of a body of critical thought. So what in the world does 'preserving the word in its leftist connotation' mean?

I take your point. What I meant was that "radical" should apply more to the descriptive parts of marxism than the perscriptive ones - the materialist conception of history, the dialectic, all that. In other words, not every radical has to be a communist.

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The fact that he chooses to attack the character of the man leaking the information (which has nothing to do with the information itself) is appalling.

Why? For worse, Assange is now the face of what I'll sweepingly call "the Wikileaks movement," i.e., the disorganized drive to penetrate the secrecy of the security state. If Assange is a shitbag, regular people will associate penetrating secrecy with shitbags. Hitchens is saying, don't let this guy be the face of your movement.

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(saying that Assange should allow himself to be prosecuted because what he is doing is against the law, hahaha)

He says he should answer the rape/surprise sex/whatever charges. Which he should. Either they're ridiculous and he should publicly shame the authorities for transparently springing this on him in a pathetic smear campaign... or they're not ridiculous and he should be convicted. Either way he gains nothing by hiding, except avoiding risk. And looking like a cowardly shitbag.
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