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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:39 pm        Reply with quote

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Dracko, don't you want the freedom to sit at your kitchen table poring over insurance contracts you can't understand to choose the one that is best for you? And that you can afford. Which um, isn't much.


Also, don't forget that freedom isn't free.
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A million people are ordered to evacuate Nagoya because Kyushu is getting all kinds of flooding right now.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:37 pm        Reply with quote

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CubaLibre wrote:
Dracko, don't you want the freedom to sit at your kitchen table poring over insurance contracts you can't understand to choose the one that is best for you? And that you can afford. Which um, isn't much.


Also, don't forget that freedom isn't free.


Buck Oh Five, motherfuckers.

God, healthcare in America is so fucked/fucked up.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:35 am        Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:41 am        Reply with quote

justice system more like injustice system
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:27 am        Reply with quote

welp... he's executed.


Capitol punishment, Palestinian statehood push, yet the New Facebook will prolly set people off most.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:15 am        Reply with quote

He's not the first, and he won't be the last.

I don't know, I've been trying to think of something more interesting to say, but that's all there is. Various state governments execute innocent people on a regular basis, and the people who enable and defend such actions get to be popular presidential candidates.

I disagree with Balko on one major point, though. The ability to execute is not at all the most awesome power our government has. It pales in comparison to our ability to bomb the fuck out of innocent people worldwide.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:01 pm        Reply with quote

Keep calm and carry on.. We may be about a month away from the next financial collapse. The three sources that I've found most consistent over the past few years are all simultaneously giving their warnings:

GEAB:
    "...it’s the solution to the public debt problems in some Euroland countries which will enable this reaction to reach critical mass, after which nothing is controllable; but the bulk of the fuel that will drive the reaction and turn it into a real global shock (1) is found in the United States. Since July 2011 we have only started on the process that led to this situation: the worst is ahead of us and very close!"

Denninger:
    "Are you prepared yet?

    No?

    Well I'm sorry, because it's too late now.

    I mean really, honestly too late."

Reinhardt: Legatus Annual Pilgrimage (significant market events often happen about a week after those), Oct 23rd (significant number, if you're into that shit), to be held in both England and Rome simultaneously (...significant locations for the catholic church, obviously).


There's not much that we can do, really. I doubt that any of us here are trading stocks or anything, so there's no point in saying to cash out your chips really soon and sit on the sidelines for a while. And further, this is not an existential thing like the web bot shenanigans were forecasting, so you shouldn't need to feel much more uncomfortable than you did through the 2008 crash. This is all being orchestrated by delusional, exceptionalistic consortiums of politically-correct folks wearing nice suits; as long as they aren't really plotting to starve off a chunk of the population and spiral us into a dark age or something, it'll all smooth itself out in abstruse political ways that are as far beyond our control as the causes of the crisis in the first place.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:47 am        Reply with quote

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/sep/22/faster-than-light-particles-neutrinos
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:02 am        Reply with quote

Apparently there are some protests going down on Wall Street for a few days now. First I'm hearing about it.

http://anonops.blogspot.com/
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:12 am        Reply with quote

Yeh, snubbed from the start. There has been coverage of it, but mostly to say that it's the usual anonarchist shenanigans rather than a significant protest. Think of the classic prohibition protest versus the million marijuana march, you know? A good litmus test: Would you show up to a career-worthy job interview dressed like this?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:47 pm        Reply with quote

So, Libya.

Prisons grow as rebels pursue their enemies and questions arise about the missing

Libya Rebels Dumping Hundreds of Bodies in ‘Pro-Gadhafi’ Cemetery

Libyan Rebels Rounding Up Black Migrants, Raped, Forced to Chant Allah Ackbar

Black Africans come under fire in Libya

Sharia Enshrined in Libyan Draft Constitution

But hey I guess it's worth it as long as companies are able to "exploit business opportunities [t]here". No way this whole situation could backfire down the road, right?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:33 am        Reply with quote

to be undeservedly fair, establishing/maintaining strong economic relations with Libya is one of the few "civilized" ways that other countries have of keeping the above atrocities/abuses of power in check. It doesn't work very well/often, of course, but the horse-blindered thought counts.

Also, you gotta admit, there's something invigorating and perhaps even refreshing about horrible inhumane violence being passionately enacted by mob rule after years of it trickling down via eccentric government corruption.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:50 am        Reply with quote

Dark Age Iron Savior wrote:
to be undeservedly fair, establishing/maintaining strong economic relations with Libya is one of the few "civilized" ways that other countries have of keeping the above atrocities/abuses of power in check. It doesn't work very well/often, of course, but the horse-blindered thought counts.


That's a pretty good point, yeah. Maybe we should be looking at it like it's a good thing the numbers of dead and missing aren't higher than they are or something like that. I suppose it could be worse but it's already bad enough. I wish I had an idea of what the alternative could have been but this is how it's cashing out now.

Dark Age Iron Savior wrote:
Also, you gotta admit, there's something invigorating and perhaps even refreshing about horrible inhumane violence being passionately enacted by mob rule after years of it trickling down via eccentric government corruption.


I don't know I find it depressing more than anything else. Violence is a vicious cycle that always seems to end in mass graves.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:01 pm        Reply with quote

Hey, something has been bugging me. You guys are likely familiar with the news story about those American "hikers" imprisoned in Iran, right? Who fucking hikes the Iran-Iraq border? I mean, seriously, those guys have to be spooks. Even Democracy Now! seems to accept their story at face value.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:16 pm        Reply with quote

Shiren the Launderer wrote:
Hey, something has been bugging me. You guys are likely familiar with the news story about those American "hikers" imprisoned in Iran, right? Who fucking hikes the Iran-Iraq border? I mean, seriously, those guys have to be spooks. Even Democracy Now! seems to accept their story at face value.
They are "hikers" because saying "I'm a journalist!" in Iran doesn't win you any brownie points.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:19 pm        Reply with quote

Shiren the Launderer wrote:
Hey, something has been bugging me. You guys are likely familiar with the news story about those American "hikers" imprisoned in Iran, right? Who fucking hikes the Iran-Iraq border? I mean, seriously, those guys have to be spooks. Even Democracy Now! seems to accept their story at face value.

As I understand it, they got lost or misdirected and wound up there by accident.

I don't see any reason to disbelieve their story.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:00 am        Reply with quote

Hey, interesting. The Wall Street occupation has escalated enough to show up on the ticker: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2727299

If the kids pulling the occupation are too unprofessional to net media attention, all it should take is for the New York Cops to act even more unprofessional to compensate for that. Oh hay, thanks for attacking unarmed white girls~




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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:03 am        Reply with quote

Yeah, here's my friend Sammy getting pushed, then further assaulted and arrested, while outside on a break from work checking out what was going on outside- ie, not protesting.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:44 pm        Reply with quote

rabite gets whacked! wrote:
Yeah, here's my friend Sammy getting pushed, then further assaulted and arrested, while outside on a break from work checking out what was going on outside- ie, not protesting.


Jesus. This makes me think that I should check in with my old friend who lives up there. Best man at my wedding, guy's an opera singer in NYC and goes through that part of town in his bike to get to work.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:02 pm        Reply with quote

psiga wrote:
Hey, interesting. The Wall Street occupation has escalated enough to show up on the ticker: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2727299


I hope those reports of NYC cops refusing to show up to work are true.

The MSNBC video Denninger posted is worth watching too.



Greenwald posted about the whole thing today as well. He also links to Dennis Perrin, who has a great post about the protests.

Dennis Perrin wrote:
Wall Street remains occupied. By capital. The dissident children were easily, roughly swept aside. Their hearts are in a good place. Their bodies a minor nuisance. They'll stream back to prove their resolve. And they'll get pepper sprayed and beaten down again. And again. However many times it takes. Capital is patient. But it does have limits.

I admire these kids. They're off their asses. Agitating. Arguing. Providing a living example. There's passion and feeling in their dissent. They're willing to be punished. It's easy to mock them, but how many of you would take their place? Primarily when the cops attack?

Corporate media dismisses them. The New York Times is especially snide and condescending. The Times and others of their class despise democracy. Demonstrations count only in official enemy states. At home, it's unnecessary. Petulant. Naive.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:14 pm        Reply with quote

psiga wrote:
Hey, interesting. The Wall Street occupation has escalated enough to show up on the ticker: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2727299

If the kids pulling the occupation are too unprofessional to net media attention, all it should take is for the New York Cops to act even more unprofessional to compensate for that.


No, this is how they win. Because now it isn't a story about wall street or even class warfare--it's a story about cops and authority, and about every protest ever, which is the same as saying it is about nothing. Violence is a means of de-specification.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:10 pm        Reply with quote

OK?

Oh, I see -- you thought I thought that 'media attention' would mean people paying attention to whatever their message is. I don't even know what their message is. Nobody is going to put a dent in Wall Street except Wall Street: they have a free pass to let their own math do them in.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:28 am        Reply with quote

I'm fairly certain they don't know what their message is either
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:55 am        Reply with quote

I, too, have read the latest Last Psychiatrist post.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:01 pm        Reply with quote

Well that made at least one of us (until I went and read it too).

My position in the last couple posts here has been based on the non-results of previous Anonymous protest-cum-meetups, and the trajectory that their latest op was on from day one; then contrasted that with the past few years that I've been subjecting myself to things like this that I doubt most anons are acquainted with, and viewed it all in the light of whatever my gestalt sense of America's current sociopolitical climate is worth.

Which is a fairly sophisticated sub-process considering how sparse and glib my posts on the matter ended up being. The touch, the feel... of Cynicism.®
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:30 pm        Reply with quote

Now it's on getting better, maybe.

(Edit: Actually as I read the distorted signs that the pilots are carrying, I see that the only thing unified about their message is that they want to be paid more to pilot planes. This is still a cry or two away from that prohibition photo, where people of all respectable lines of work were unified in the message of WE WANT BEER; in this case they should be saying SOUND MONEY NOW, but instead they're saying ME ME ME.)
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psiga wrote:
Now it's on getting better, maybe.

(Edit: Actually as I read the distorted signs that the pilots are carrying, I see that the only thing unified about their message is that they want to be paid more to pilot planes. This is still a cry or two away from that prohibition photo, where people of all respectable lines of work were unified in the message of WE WANT BEER; in this case they should be saying SOUND MONEY NOW, but instead they're saying ME ME ME.)

You don't really get into pack mentalities until you're desperate though. While we're in dire straits, we're still making enough to be selfish. Until the market implodes, which may be sooner than we think, the "American" way of ME ME ME isn't going anywhere.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:30 pm        Reply with quote

BUT THE ALTERNATIVE IS COMMUNISM
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:18 pm        Reply with quote

Texican Rude wrote:
BUT THE ALTERNATIVE IS COMMUNISM

Man, that's so like, 1950s, man. Socialism is the new Satan.

edit: Worst top post ever.
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http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/09/28/protests?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+salon%2Fgreenwald+%28Glenn+Greenwald%29
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:58 am        Reply with quote

wake me when the tea party.gets in on this hot protest action
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Has this been posted?


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in lighter news


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:17 pm        Reply with quote

Congratulations everyone, we did it!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:01 pm        Reply with quote

Jesus Christ.
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Totally stealing this: "I won't complain at this, if they don't complain when I drink a 40 of O.E. at their hanging." And this: "At least the people that will eat you have the courtesy to show their teeth."
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:50 pm        Reply with quote

GG Woody Allin wrote:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/09/28/protests?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+salon%2Fgreenwald+%28Glenn+Greenwald%29


remote wrote:
Has this been posted?


I posted both those things in my last post on the last page you guys really need to step up your game.
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sawtooth wrote:
Congratulations everyone, we did it!


THANKS OBAMA, nice precedent you've set there. I'm sure the next guy or gal in office after you will appreciate the power you've asserted and secured.
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http://www.occupytogether.org/

Just found out about this and it turns out there's a meeting in OKC going on right now. I won't be making it tonight but I will definitely keep an eye out for when their next meeting is and go then. Even if it's just 20 people that's something to start with. Y'all should check it out and see if there's anything organizing in a city near you and if not, set something up! You might be surprised how many people show up.
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Mr. Mechanical wrote:
http://www.occupytogether.org/

Just found out about this and it turns out there's a meeting in OKC going on right now. I won't be making it tonight but I will definitely keep an eye out for when their next meeting is and go then. Even if it's just 20 people that's something to start with. Y'all should check it out and see if there's anything organizing in a city near you and if not, set something up! You might be surprised how many people show up.

In about a week plus change in Chattanooga. I'm considering going.
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