[Ebrey]

I never checked the old FFXII thread because it was long, and I wasn't buying any games at the time. I might be ready for a new RPG in the coming months, however. So what was the OVERALL opinion on FFXII? Not your opinion, but something like this:

Everyone liked the story, but people were mixed on the gameplay. Those who liked number crunching loved it, but those who wanted varied level design grew bored.

[SplashBeats]

Actually, it was more some people liked the story, a lot of people liked the gameplay.

[BalbanesBeoulve]

Everyone liked it except extralife.

[Toups]

[nothingxs]

[Gin]

It was very good, but somewhat lacking in content in retrospect.


It was extremely pretty. The designs for the Espers, for example, were fantastic.

The plot was refreshing, and pretty good, but it was immensely thin.

In fact it was a lot like originally it had as much content as FFT or Vagrant Story, and the about 75% of it was removed and we were left with a skeleton of a plot, with your main characters tacked on and sort of shoehorned into the game, so you had a sort of flimsy cast of heroes, along with a lot of other far better designed villains and side characters, whose character developement no longer fit into the game.

As a result, the entire passage through the game, a lot happens without a lot of you causing anything to happen, a lot of characters have incredible emotional moments without us knowing a damn thing about them.

Everything aside from the plot though, the gameplay, hunts, sidequests and stuff, were pretty great.

They would be a lot better with some motivation, or any sort of sense of plot progress.

[Gin]

Also, it did a lot to remove the bullshitness of RPGs, most of which will be completely ignored in future games.

[gooktime]

Gabranth was a pretty cool character

[haze]

Final Fantasy fans will hate it.

[Felix]

gilgamesh fight was about as far as i cared to go with the super duper optional stuff, made my gambits nigh-useless about fifty percent of the time no matter how hard i refined them (and oh how i refined them - the fifty percent they did work i was grateful for and proud of, let me tell you), and in general was the most fantastically challenging thing i have done in an rpg in a long long time.

but, uh, yeah, they did kind of streamline the plot along with the gameplay. for whatever reason. ging.. hit it spot on (?!).

[Agent Orange]

Sucked!





Hint: Go read those threads, really, there's some good discussion in them.

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my SPOILAR-FREE REVIEW will be up pretty soon.

toups has read it.

right, toups?
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[RecessRapist]

Its great and all, but I personally think there's too much to do :(

Like I really want those secret espers but I'm still far from being done with the other hunts and stuff. And these days I really can't find the motivation to play it. Like I got the game the day it came out and I just recently made it to the phon coast and I'm almost 50 hours in the game.

[special blend]

WTF is up with some of those puzzles? It took me forever to figure out the "Dusty Letter" one, and I've pretty much given up on the optional ones in the Sochen Cave Palace.

Also, the one with the zodiac-named switches and gates gets a thumbs down.
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[special blend]

if anyone can point me in the direction of FF12 developer interviews, that would be great

also, was the EB bonus disc any good?
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[Pijaibros]

I didn't even bother using a FAQ. I just ignored them! If they can't make it solvable by my standards of logic, screw it! I'm an adventurer, not a scholar! Besides if all they unlocked were Espers, it's not worth it. Unless someone here found a proper use for them?

Instead my team just went to clean up all the hunts that were available at the guild. Good fun, big prizes!

All that is left is to go up to the battleship and perform the final story portion. I know there's probably some bonus things after the game, but I have no motivation to go up there and do it. Those final fights against Pandemonium, Fafnir, and all those other Rank VI and VII marks just took it out of me.

Still, a fine 120 hours that was. I may want to replay this like 5 years down the road so I keep it around still.
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[negativedge]

[Mr Stegosaurus]

[Agent Orange]

[Intentionally Wrong]

There's a surprising amount of depth to the gameworld hidden away in the bestiary and item descriptions and such. The espers are just another fact of life when your reality came about from supernatural origins. The fact that the party encounters several of them demonstrates how significant the party is in terms of the world's powers, as a counterbalance to the way others always dictate exactly what the hell it is you're supposed to be doing. Wheels within wheels, so to speak.
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[haze]

i think it did a good job eliminating RPG bullshit! okay i'm just kidding, "eliminates RPG bullshit" has been credited to every single RPG that does the slightest thing different since Dragon Quest and I'm sick of hearing it.

now if they'd just get rid of the FF bullshit it'd be awesome. IT WOULD BE VAGRANT STORY 2.

[Agent Orange]

[Triton]

[icycalm]