Demon's Souls

Drem · Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: The Planet Bookshelves

But they spam that super explodey bell attack. It seems to go all around them. Or am I just dodging wrong?

Cossix · Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:01 am

Just KEEP HITTING THEM they should drop fast once you get behind them. I think I kill them in three hits with my winged spear or my long sword.

Sketch · Joined: 05 Dec 2006

If you're having trouble, revive with ephemeral eyes and try summoning some blue souls to help.

Has anyone been using the soul-luring items, or augites of guidance? The guidance stones seem a bit pointless, since I can only drop them, not throw them, but the soul-luring items (dropped by skeletons in 4-1) seem like an interesting idea. They lure those hungry for souls.

I tried them a bit on 5-2 to lure enemies out of the darkness, but haven't really done much with them. There's a whole bunch of items which I haven't used. I really get the feeling this game offers a lot more depth than you're likely to use.

Has anyone tried luring the Cthulu guys with the soul stones? Or thrown them over a cliff for an enemy to follow?

funnelcake · Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Location: Kitchener, ON

Cthulhu guys: Equip the Thief Ring and run up really fast and stab them in the back. If you miss, run away and wait till he shows his back again.

Bennett · Joined: 03 Apr 2009

another god · Joined: 04 Dec 2006

Beat every subworld's boss. The story to this game is having an interesting twist. Was I supposed to feel bad killing Maiden Astrea.? I felt the same way in the Prison of Hope, actually.
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zombieman000 · Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Location: A.D. 2219

Astraea was a saint/missionary type who supposedly only went down to that valley to help the suffering (or, uh, maybe just sit and talk with them? get them to pray? not as if she could have done much for them), so I guess killing her should have that effect. I'm still pretty unclear about the plot of this game, even with the intro/ending and the Monumental's explanation. Maybe a lot of it is supposed to be left to interpretation? Another thing about the ending:

The narrator says your character eventually becomes a Monumental, but what if the Old One is woken again and the game events occur once more? That could give some meaning to the new game +(+++...) feature, or maybe I'm just reaching.
New Game+ is whooping my ass, as I expected, but I wish that you would still be allowed to upgrade even after beating the bosses. I did that, assuming that I could still cash in souls, but then the game ended/went to the next loop.

another god · Joined: 04 Dec 2006

1-4 is seriously really fucking hard. Am I supposed to kill the blue dragon? Can I beat 1-4 and then go back and farm for more souls? This is totally killing me, guys.
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zombieman000 · Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Location: A.D. 2219

I'm not sure if you need to kill the blue dragon there. I summoned help and my partner killed him off with Death Cloud. If you don't have that spell, I think you can infect him with the plague using rotten arrows from 5-* (GameFAQs says 5-2).

If 1-4 is the last stage you have left to beat, you won't be able to talk to the Maiden in Black to exchange souls. Don't beat it until you've leveled up enough to feel safe for the next playthroughs.

Sketch · Joined: 05 Dec 2006

Yes, leave 1-4 until the very, very end, after you've done everything else (I went and did Mephistopheles assassination quests, for example).

After beating 1-4 I spent all my souls on upgrade stones for my weapons (costing 500-3k each), since I reckoned I'd probably die playing 1-1+ and those stones are expensive. Best stock up while the money was good. Hopefully it'll make my levelling of weapons easier, so I can net mje all the trophies (I don't know why, I normally hate trophies, but I really want the platinum in this).

I've been giving this a rest for the time being... I hope I have the ability to get back in to Game+ when I come back to it.

another god · Joined: 04 Dec 2006

I've never been so exhausted from a game in my life...
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Moogs · Joined: 06 Dec 2006

This came in the mail yesterday!

I am going to start it tonight!!

Also, my PS3 magically started connecting to PSN again!!!

I am excited!!!!!

gooktime · Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: no

The blue dragon in 1-4 is optional & you get a trophy for it, similar to the old king boss fight.

I stood underneath his chin after getting past him and just pelted him with soul arrow, using spice when necessary. It takes... a while. The first time you see him, when he burns the ministers on the bridge, you can cast death cloud on him though it's impossible to cast on him after he perches on the front of the entrance at the top of the stairs.

Moogs · Joined: 06 Dec 2006

The character creation for this game is some creepy shit.

Toptube · Anti-cabbage Party Candidate Joined: 23 Apr 2007

I got my copy the other day as well, but I may not be able to dedicate much time to it for atleast a week because I'll be working 12 hour shifts...

The manual looks like it is full of information! Too bad I can't read it! Its also full color, which is kind of nice.

belthegor · Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: NY

Moogs · Joined: 06 Dec 2006

another god · Joined: 04 Dec 2006

Hey, guys, selectbutton DS multiplayer talk is here. jjsimpso and I have been running a couple dungeons together. You should read the thread. DS multiplayer is definitely not Diablo.

Also, Toptube, what's ur PSN?

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scratchmonkey · Final Finasty Joined: 21 Mar 2007

You're missing a URL there bro.

I got this in the mail earlier this week; I haven't had the time to really sit down and check it out though. Will maybe do so this weekend.

Sketch · Joined: 05 Dec 2006

I intend to start levelling my weapons to get the related trophies, can anyone give me a list of which to level for each type of upgrade stone?

For example, which are the best (in terms of using them) and the easiest (in terms of not requiring many stones) weapons to level up to 5 with suckerstones?

Also, can Game+ people play multiplayer with you say no to drugs, juicy j can't+ people?

I'm lvl 79 and while I want to do most of the early levels offline (to maintain world tendency - damn that bug!), I know I'll need help sooner rather than later.

Sketch · Joined: 05 Dec 2006

Also, this was a nice post from another forum, so I'm copying it here.

A black phantom invader helped a new guy finish 4-2!

Such a heart-warming tale - this could be the most wonderful thing I've heard about this game.

DrNightmare wrote:

jjsimpso · Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina

I finished this last night. I was soul level 73 and had about 50 hours on my save file. Blue dragon in 1-4 was a pain. I kept dropping blue stones hoping someone could show me how to do it but everyone else was as clueless as I was. I never did manage to make it cleanly but I worked out how to make it past him only taking one hit, which was enough. Ended up facing the False King on my own when my soul helper was killed by the dragon.

Fantastic game and even after 50 hours I kind of want to play through it again with a more magic oriented character. I haven't even begun to explore the world tendency events, so there is a lot I still haven't seen.

Toptube · Anti-cabbage Party Candidate Joined: 23 Apr 2007

IRVINE, CALIFORNIA -- MAY 20, 2009 -- Atlus U.S.A., Inc., your shining knights in armor, today announced that they have secured the North American publishing rights for Demon's Souls™, a groundbreaking action RPG experience for PLAYSTATION®3 system. Beautiful, compelling, and unforgiving, Demon's Souls is the hardcore RPG experience PLAYSTATION 3 system owners have been waiting for since the platform's launch.

Revolutionary online features support your adventure like never before, presenting seamless interconnectivity that serves in every instance to enhance the single-player game. Team up with two other players in simultaneous cooperative play, working together to topple some of the game's colossal bosses, or force your way into the games of skilled players and challenge them to PvP battle. Leave hints and clues for those who will follow in your footsteps; either intentionally or through your own inadvertent demise, your bloodstains will allow your successors to view a replay of your death, hinting at how to avoid your gruesome fate. Unprecedented in its depth and subtlety, peerless in its relentlessly challenging gameplay, Demon's Souls is the ultimate action RPG.

Bennett · Joined: 03 Apr 2009

After completing this, I've decided that the only real way to play Demon's Souls is to go melee-only. So rather than New Game+, I'm trying it again without the cheese. I think it's quite a bit deeper (and harder) this way!

Sketch · Joined: 05 Dec 2006

Actually, Game+ is more difficult! So going with it melee only is cool. I've been doing that, and it makes you appreciate the subtlety of combat more (plus, I get to raise my stats a bit more).

jjsimpso · Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina

My first play through was as a Temple Knight and I pretty much stuck to that template. Melee is fun in this game, but I'd say the real challenge is with a lightly armored melee character who concentrates on parries and backstabs. My new character is a Royal who I'm going to play this way. Of course, I'll have magic to fall back on if I get frustrated.

I've noticed that most people use heavy shields like adjudicator and don't bother with parrying(as I did in my first playthrough). Also, not many people seem to use miracles that much. Dragon in 1-2 is much easier and faster to take down with Rage of God than it is with the cloud spells!

gooktime · Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: no

Nobody else go for a rounded character then? I played through as a royal first time, ending up at 99 with enough strength for a crescent uchigatana and enough equip for Gloom armour (with the +equip ring equipped, anyway) whilst still being a caster primarily. It's totally doable!

Bennett · Joined: 03 Apr 2009

My first character was a rounded Royal. Part of the reason I'm not doing Game+ with him is that I think quite a few of the bosses are boring if you have missiles as a serious option. (I.e. the final boss - wtf?) Also some levels like 2-1 are much more interesting if you are melee-only. But the other part is that I had some really annoying permanent misses:

- I spent my dragon god soul on fireball (which was awful)
- I killed Ostrava for Mephistopheles but didn't get the talisman reward for some reason.
- Then I killed Yuria before getting the assassination quest, so I didn't get a reward for that.
- Several unique items I couldn't take because of load limits.
- My main weapon was a +4 Crescent Secret Dagger, but I permanently scared off the only geckos with pure darkmoonstone, meaning I couldn't advance it any more.
- I took the insanity catalyst instead of moving soul arrow (major mistake).

This time I know I'm using all my major souls for weapon upgrades.

manmachine plays jazz · Guest

i'm absolutely in love with this game! any brotips for killing tower knight with a knight?

jjsimpso · Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina

Just make sure you hit him in the head when he falls, as that is where you'll do most of your damage. Disengage lock-on if you are using it when he falls. Also, don't be afraid to run back up the stairs if you get in trouble or need to reset. If you can't easily work your way back behind him or he's too close to the wall, reset.

Sketch · Joined: 05 Dec 2006

I've heard the US version will use exclusive US servers.

Still, the US version will have some arty extras, which is neato.

Thoughts?

manmachine plays jazz · Guest

you should describe them!

another god · Joined: 04 Dec 2006

zombieman000 · Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Location: A.D. 2219

I hope they make it easier to switch between world tendencies.

Does anyone know if the amount of experience/souls gained from enemies increases anymore after the 2nd playthrough?

another god · Joined: 04 Dec 2006

I've heard that playthroughs 3+ only get marginally harder/more exp. I think at that point they want you to be battling other people lots so everything smooths out.
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manmachine plays jazz · Guest

that's kind of a terrible decision on atlus' part. this game is probably going to sell horribly here and the US servers will be devoid of people within months, like every other niche online console game.

LandRoverAttack · Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Location: sagamihara, kanagawa

I read that, and I wonder what they mean about FFXI? Something about starting up the game on day one and servers being filled with lvl 75 characters? That's a little disappointing, I hope the game sells well though and people keep playing it. Day one purchase, anyway.
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Tokyo Rude · Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Location: I'm on the phone Derrick!

So should I buy this now or wait for the the US version?

LandRoverAttack · Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Location: sagamihara, kanagawa

Well, depends! The US will have its own servers, supposedly not interacting with the other versions. Which means a couple things. If there are people you want to play with, you'd need the same version (can you request certain players be summoned to your world? I don't even know if this is possible). Also, Asian servers will probably have their be pretty steady and decline gradually, while the US ones will be booming for at least a while and drop off as is natural. Depends on how popular the game gets here, I suppose. Maybe that's the deciding factor.
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another god · Joined: 04 Dec 2006