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schild

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:37 am |
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| Well, depends! The US will have its own servers, supposedly not interacting with the other versions. |
Where'd you hear this? As far as I know this isn't true, unless it was very recently changed.
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| If there are people you want to play with, you'd need the same version (can you request certain players be summoned to your world? I don't even know if this is possible). |
AFAIK, all 4 versions will be able to play together, part of the reason they're doing so many bugfix patches right now. Every version will need to be patched to the US release version.
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Still, the US version will have some arty extras, which is neato.
Thoughts? |
Uh, not that I know of. |
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analogos bravely default crying fairy

Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:59 am |
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| I think he just means the pre-order artbook or whatever, not in-game content. |
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EU03

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:08 am |
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http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3966
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One question we’ve been repeatedly asked is whether the North American release of the game will share servers with the Asian versions, and we finally have an answer. Much as the Japanese and Asian versions are hosted on separate servers, the North American release will receive all new servers.
Why not use the same servers? Well, the game’s online system does not allow for friend lists; it’s all handled by the game, so it really doesn’t make much sense to burden a single server with so many players, because you’ll be playing with new adventurers every time. Believe us: once you try the online in Demon’s Souls, you’ll wish more games were set up the same way. |
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belthegor

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: NY
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Dark Age Iron Savior king of finders

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: Spacecraft, Juanelia Country
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:08 pm |
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| Why not use the same servers? Well, the game’s online system does not allow for friend lists; it’s all handled by the game, so it really doesn’t make much sense to burden a single server with so many players, because you’ll be playing with new adventurers every time. Believe us: once you try the online in Demon’s Souls, you’ll wish more games were set up the same way. |
you know, I try not to fault PR departments their "this is totally for the best and there's no reason to suspect we have ulterior motives" hand-waving, but it feels kind of like being lied to by someone you trust when Atlus does it |
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Toptube Anti-cabbage Party Candidate
Joined: 23 Apr 2007
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:53 pm |
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| That pre-order is how much it cost me after shipping to purchase the game in May from yes-asia. |
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Lick Meth

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: A constant state of flux
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:31 pm |
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I waited forever for this, and now I'm finally playing it! And I'm completely lost, for 9 pages worth of stuff that'll just confuse me. So, help me here:
- what's the advantage of having the "live" body as opposed to being a soul? Except for the half health thing.
- where do I start/continue? So far I've beaten a big blob boss, but the giant knight after that keeps beating me up (on the first level, I think).
- any recommended strategies or weapons at the start?
Good times and all. |
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another god
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:42 pm |
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Use the wiki. Google search for Demon's Souls wiki, and you should have a good start.
Don't worry too much about having a body. Having a body lets you summon other people into your game, but then people can also barge into your world too to kill you. Double edged sword. Real exciting though.
Outside of that, play to your style. I liked blocking and retaliating with a heavy shield and a spear. My roommate liked being quicker rolling in with a dagger. I beat 2-1, 5-1, 4-1, 1-2, 3-1 in that order. Of course, that's after a lot of exploration and dying and leveling. I leveled up a lot in 2-1 helping other people beat the boss a lot. _________________ interdimensional |
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NeoEsZ
Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:49 am |
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Guys, I'm selling the full english asian version, mint condition, 50 bucks :D private message me or email me at plasticnerves@gmail.com
im leaving town soon, so i need funds and to pay off some other things. |
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LandRoverAttack

Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Location: sagamihara, kanagawa
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:01 pm |
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Bumping this thread as the US release is getting imminent. This is probably my most anticipated release of the year. I've convinced at least one friend to pick up a PS3 on Oct. 6, and used this game as incentive for another to get a PS3 over the summer. Demon's Souls is showing some tremendous power over people.
I have this thread to thank for the froth.
I hope the strategy guide in the LE doesn't spoil too much, as I haven't really read enough to get terribly spoiled yet. Perhaps I should hold off on reading it until I get through the game once? Or is it like Monster Hunter in that I need the wealth of information to fully enjoy it as it is far too frustrating otherwise? _________________
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zombieman000
Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Location: A.D. 2219
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:08 pm |
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| I kind of want to say that some parts would be too frustrating to enjoy without a guide, but a lot of the fun here is in figuring things out on your own. (yeah not a clear answer) I would try to use the guide only for bosses you're having trouble with. |
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jakten

Joined: 02 Jan 2009
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:15 pm |
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I'm loving this game so much, especially now that I'm further into it I can't put the damned thing down. I'm surprised you've gotten people interested, anyone I have told about it watched a video and decided it was generic and far too slow-paced and basically don't even want to take another glance at it.
Anyways the main point of my post, I was wondering has anyone heard anything else about the DLC?
I'm also curious if anyone knows if the NA version can use the Asian versions save files or can play with each other online. Because I kind of want to pick up the NA version and sell my asian version but i don't want to lose my save files on the other hand I'm noticing on the asian version not very many people play anymore. So I'd like to witness what it was like when the asian version was first released. _________________ T U M B L R
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zombieman000
Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Location: A.D. 2219
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:56 pm |
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| So far there's been no news of DLC. No explanations for that broken archstone. The NA and Asian version save files aren't compatible with each other, and the NA version will use new servers separate from the Asian ones. |
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Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: parts unknown
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:24 am |
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I think checking the parts of the guide that explain how to be able to upgrade weapons and such would be a good thing to check out as they at times would be somewhat tricky to figure out on one's own, but I would avoid the stage-specific parts as you probably wouldn't want those details spoiled for you. _________________ http://www.audioatrocities.com/games/castlevania-sotn/clip1.mp3 |
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LandRoverAttack

Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Location: sagamihara, kanagawa
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:17 pm |
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| username wrote: |
| I think checking the parts of the guide that explain how to be able to upgrade weapons and such would be a good thing to check out as they at times would be somewhat tricky to figure out on one's own, but I would avoid the stage-specific parts as you probably wouldn't want those details spoiled for you. |
Yeah this sounds pretty reasonable. Thanks, and thanks zombieman too. I'll probably bust it out if a boss is kicking my ass, too.
As far as getting friends interested, I don't know if any of them have actually seen a video of it yet, haha. I just hyped it up pretty well. It's worth mentioning that a lot of these are the same friends I got hooked on Monster Hunter, which I have used as a comparison to great effect.
For the most part we are all going in very blind. I think I've only seen one gameplay video, myself. I'm hoping to get a few of us together to play it side-by-side, and maybe engineer some co-op? Though that might be hard to do at first, when there is a lot more competition for souls... _________________
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belthegor

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: NY
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:32 pm |
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| I've beaten the asian version numerous times and I plan on getting right back into the game again once the US version is out. Keep an eye out for me online come October 6th. PSN ID: belthegor |
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km

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Minor character in a frame story
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:11 am |
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This game does not explain hardly anything. Like uh, how do I save and quit without losing all of my souls? It's pretty stupid that the game tells you things like press R1 to attack (which is in the manual... I can read, thanks) but doesn't tell you that you have to clear the first area of the first world to do any levelling up or why your health bar can only be filled half way.
Messages are really fun, and I've already seen bloodstains turn into weird little bits of performance art inside the Nexus. _________________
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jakten

Joined: 02 Jan 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:08 am |
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You can walk back to the Archstone at the beginning of the level or you can collect and use a Splinter of Keystone or a Nexial binding (using this you will lose souls though) The game automatically saves so if you mess something up its done. I'm pretty sure you can quit the game anywhere and return to where you left off. I've only ever done so in the nexus so I'm not sure how it works in a level.
I thought it did tell you that when you die and become a soul your health is halved. There are a lot of things that it doesn't tell you though but it's kind of nice to figure stuff out on your own, at least for me. I'm almost 3/4 of the way through the game and just realized I could use the Demons Souls to get stronger magic, miracles and weapons. I thought I had to save them for something. I think a lot of confusion for me comes from having the Asian version though. I was really confused by the Soldier souls telling me I would be turned into a soul when I consumed them. I thought it would resurrect me... _________________ T U M B L R
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SuperWes

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:56 pm |
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It took me 2 hours, but I beat the first level last night. This is an interesting game. Without the challenge it would be horrible, but the way it's laid out and the excellent help system make it something that I think I'll actually play. I will say that the level design is outstanding.
I kind of wish there were a bit more direction though. I have no idea what to do with a majority of the items I've found.
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gooktime

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: no
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:31 pm |
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| This game does not explain hardly anything. Like uh, how do I save and quit without losing all of my souls? |
you don't need to worry about that (it auto saves a lot)
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| I thought it did tell you that when you die and become a soul your health is halved. |
yeah... and it makes a point of forcing the cling-ring on you (increases health when dead to 75%) halfway through 1-1 |
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km

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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:48 pm |
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I figured those things out but I had to work it out on my own. It wasn't a fun oh hey I figured this out it was I've played this for a few hours and hey I need to do something else now. Everything I had read about the game being brutal made me worry that I was going to have wasted all my time because I didn't do the right thing when I needed to stop playing. I'm not a fan of hand-holding, but I think those things are crucial enough that they at least deserve a mention in the manual.
By excellent help system, wes, do you mean the messages other players leave or what? _________________
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: take me on a blatant doom trip.
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:05 am |
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| man fucking gamestops around me all being old out of this. i will be tracking it down tomorrow. |
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Dracko a sapphist fool

Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:15 am |
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If I had a PS3, I'd be all over this. _________________
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SuperWes

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:37 am |
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| km wrote: |
| By excellent help system, , do you mean the messages other players leave or what? |
Yep. Like you, I have no idea how to play the game. I still don't know how to leave messages for people.
Still good though.
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secret character

Joined: 12 Jul 2008
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:05 am |
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BROTIP: press the Select Button to leave/recommend messages.
I feel like I've got a decent handle on how the game works. A little bit is prior knowledge, like knowing that recommending a message gives the author health, but I honestly don't think I came in knowing that much that I didn't get from the manual or the tutorial.
I think I've made it especially difficult on myself, however, by choosing a barbarian to start with ("for the challenge"). I struggled my way past the first boss. I'm dying a lot, but it's still pretty fun. _________________ ☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹
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Cryo

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: Columbia, MD
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:06 am |
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Wes, walk around the opening Nexus area. There is a hallway that is filled with helpful in-game tips, such as how to leave messages for people (hit Select). Here's hoping to see you in-game as a blue phantom, or on the tip of my spear. _________________ PS3 - Cryoh
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km

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Minor character in a frame story
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:29 am |
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This game is brutal. I feel like I am being severely punished for trying new things. I have literally wasted 4 hours of my life with nothing to show for it except some extra healing herbs. I don't know if it's my dude or what but it takes FOREVER to recover from... anything. Healing takes so long it's more likely to get you killed than helping you. I have died because the landing animation pushed my character off the ledge, losing 5000 souls in the process. One of the REALLY frustrating things is that until you beat the first part, you have no way to "store" your souls, even if they're just as stat increases. I feel like I'm losing so much every time the game pulls what I feel is some serious bullshit and I die on the way to my bloodstain. _________________
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Cryo

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: Columbia, MD
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:34 am |
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| I won't lie, the game is hella brutal and scary during the first level, since you can't put your souls away into stats for safekeeping. However, I can't wait until I get back from work in the morning so I can subject myself to the sweet, sweet torture. Makes me feel like a sub. |
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another god
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:50 am |
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Yeah, pretty much.
Don't know if you knew much about the game other than it was a "gamer's game". But it's brutal. It's not Godhand brutal, it's more lingering. Terrifying. But very upfront about it.
Be patient, look for opportunities. If you don't see one, go exploring. Figure out what makes you stronger. There's a lot to the first level, and you can get pretty strong outside of "leveling". If you can figure out how to run a route consistently, you can even start buying decent gear (though not gear you're likely to use for much of the rest of the game).
Thinking about it, early grinding won't really help your gear much, but it does help refine your skills for the rest of the game... _________________ interdimensional |
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SuperWes

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:31 pm |
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Alright. I spent 2 hours this morning and made no progress. Out of curiosity:
1. How should I use my empty souls? Sell them or save them to use later for some reason?
2. I'm playing as a Warrior (I think). Should I buy magic? Which magic should I buy? Is this more important than buying levels?
3. Is this a game where buying armor is useful, or should I depend mostly on drops for my upgrades?
4. How do I know which level is which? The US version names levels instead of numbering them, so when you're talking about 2-1, etc. I have no idea what level you're referring to.
5. Do you have any other general hints?
I played through the beginning of a level where you start next to a bunch of planks, but I kept falling off so I stopped. I started a different level where you run through a room full of slaves and fight a bunch of dogs, but I died there right away too. Then I tried 1-2 and think I made it pretty far, but I ended up dying thanks to inconsistent dragon fire. It's frustrating for sure, but it's not unfair.
I think the biggest problem I have with this game is one of time. It's hard for me to devote several hours to a game at once, but without a few hours it's impossible to make any real progress. I realize this is a personal problem, but I can see myself dropping the game based on that despite the fact that it's really very good.
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another god
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:07 pm |
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1. Use the souls however you like. If your goal is on "beating" the game, I suggest going for a heavy shield/winged spear route. You can either go for heavy armor or healing (or both, as was my case. I also grinded 2-1 a lot), so adjust your stats accordingly. Really, you can't go wrong as long as you "hit" the parts you need (e.g. heavy shield/winged spear for me. Some people like to do ranged... depends on your starting character).
2. Be smart! Magic will help you heal, but if you have a lot of potions, why bother? Though, if you don't have a lot of potions...
3. Buying gear is something I never did, but I also explored a lot. The armory is there for you to buy gear if you a) explore AND b) don't find anything. And if you don't want to pay for Soul Levels.
4. The Asian version also named everything. 1 is Boletarian Palace, 2 is the mines, 3 is the prison, 4 is the ruins, and 5 is the swamp. It goes in left to right order. The second number (2 in 1-2) is the level in that world.
5. Feel out the game. Use the wiki! The wiki is your best friend! In fact, read this thread. There's a link to the wiki and the discussion we had on the game earlier. _________________ interdimensional |
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Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Location: a very very very fine house
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:12 pm |
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I assume you mean the souls you have as items in your inventory. You can use those but you should save the ones you get from bosses. _________________
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Tlon

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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:59 pm |
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http://www.metafilter.com/85680/Demons-Souls _________________ Someday somethings coming
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To kill us while we stand here
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secret character

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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:34 am |
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So after running up against a wall as a barbarian, I decided to switch classes. With my new hunter, I got as far as I was with my barbarian in a single try (that is, no deaths), and in some ways even farther. I might come back to the barbarian eventually, but it's really too much for me right now. _________________ ☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹
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Toptube Anti-cabbage Party Candidate
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:13 am |
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| Seeing lots of positive buzz about this game around the web. Forums and actual games sites alike. Hopefully its translating into decent sales. |
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Rud31 forum ruler of Iraq

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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:00 pm |
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| So I almost beat my second boss alst night as a soldier. He's a pretty badass little dude. |
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zombieman000
Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Location: A.D. 2219
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:08 pm |
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Royal is the easy mode class :(
Just equip the fragrant ring to regenerate magic juice, hang back and shoot soul arrows at everything. |
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Bennett

Joined: 03 Apr 2009
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:31 pm |
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| zombieman000 wrote: |
Royal is the easy mode class :(
Just equip the fragrant ring to regenerate magic juice, hang back and shoot soul arrows at everything. |
It's always fun when you meet someone like this in PvP, because you can always dodge-roll a soul arrow. Then you sprint up to them and gut them six times with a dagger until they die. |
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LandRoverAttack

Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Location: sagamihara, kanagawa
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:35 pm |
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Oh man this game. I have loved everything about it since I got it Tuesday. I will get into it really heavy this weekend. I started as a Wanderer and have not delved into magic or miracles at all, and it's really challenging. It hits all the right notes with me.
I want to do PvP but at the moment stand no chance! Without exception, everyone I end up invading has a full set of heavy armor, a giant tower shield, and a spear or big sword (my friend has had the same experience, and has spent much more time on the game, including invading). I have been sticking with small shield and light armor and messing around with different swords, and I just don't think there's a way I could do enough damage to these guys! Especially when there they have another buddy soul around, wow! But it's always tense and exciting, and I don't seem to lose anything for dying so it's not a problem.
Will be on much this weekend! _________________
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