[bloody heartland]

THE INTRO:



1) The bird woman is Jill Valentine, brainwashed. She's been his hitwoman under mind control now for two years, and is dosed up on some kind of super-soldier serum.

Jill used to be a pretty strong character, but here she's subjected to classic fridging syndrome, a comic book meme where women are brainwashed and multilated to provide angst for their male counterparts.

Jill's brainwashing and appearance (you don't see it until much later, but she's blonde now) appear to be a Cammy reference - more on it when I come to it, but Jill uses some of Cammy's signature throw moves in later cutscenes.

Anyway, here we see her killing a submissive black african with the Ouroboros virus.

2) Chris is sponsored by a cartel of big pharm companies to fight bio-terrorism. This is faintly absurd, and positions Chris as a benign force of colonialism, swooping in like a white knight to help defenceless third world nations. He has PTSD, because Jill is dead. Compare with the classic trope of a superhero having his girlfriend butchered and having to struggle on: like Spiderman, or the Kyle Rayner Green Lantern.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_in_Refrigerators_(comics)

3) Sheeva is here so people won't be angry at Chris. This is apt, considering Sheeva's possibly been put in the game to defuse potential race war overtones.

4) A scene of a black guard speaking in gruff, agressive tones and touching Sheeva's buttocks. I'm going to let this one speak for itself, I think.

5) Ominous (and apparently uninfected) black African stalks behind Sheeva and Chris.

[bloody heartland]

1) The sack scene. Apparently uninfected black africans beat a twitching sack. Chris is barely tolerated. The black men are the "other". Ominous violence and threats of violence.



1) Carrying on from the last video, Africa is deserted, desolate and flyblown. The political climate is said to be dominated by regime change and terrorism. Chris feels persecuted because he's American.

Overall, the impression given of Kuju is bleak, tense, uncivilised and negative. Whereas Resident Evil 4 showed a town decayed long after infection, this shows a town decayed prior to infection. Also note that while Resident Evil 4 featured stylised and surreal anachronisms Resident Evil 5 is aiming for a veneer of realism. Chronenburg/Carpenter vs Ridley Scott.

2) His contact is some sort of mysterious muslim ninja. Cutscene to gameplay ratio in this sequence feels very similar to Metal Gear Solid 4.

[nemo]

I'll keep reading these if you keep posting them.

[Dracko]

oh boohoo us poor americans are so misunderstood across the world

It is amazing to me honestly that Capcom get away with ripping off the latest trends so obviously yet never get called out on it. What is this self-important Metal Gear bullshit?

[boojiboy7]

Really, you cna analyze a game without playing it. Great Job!

How's that cover system in the game? You know, the one you swore existed to make the game a gears rip off and doesn't? Oh yeah.

Sorry, I refuse to take analysis done by someone who can't even grasp the basics of how a game plays as anything other than the pure malarky of a guy with a grudge.

But James totally gets racism. Oh yeah, bro.
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[Dracko]

booj, there's no need to troll. You can tell a number of things from this footage alone. Have you checked it out?

In any case, this is a bargain bin purchase for me at best. Games on next-gen platforms are still way too expensive.

[boojiboy7]

I am only trolling because this is a very clear attempt by james to validate his own views without ever actually investigating something beyond youtube. It's a sad little attempt at that.

And like I said, it is hard to take analysis seriously from someone who doesn't even grasp the basic mechanics of a game.

Not to mention we get writing like this:

"showed a town decayed before infection, this shows a town decayed prior to infection." Wait, prior and before mean the same thing. Nice contrast there.

Not to mention that someone who isn't even playing the game isclaiming to understand the intents of the people making the game.

I'm sorry, but this kind of petty attempt by James to bolster his own position is pointless, vaguely insulting to SB, and just plain stupid. Analysis of anything coming from someone who has already made his opinion of the whole known well before the analysis begins is the tool of Fox News, Al Sharpton, and Jack Thompson. Not something I find particularly helpful.
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[Dracko]

Yeah, I spotted the typos too.

I'm more interested in the footage, though. So far, this looks pretty insulting.

[shrugtheironteacup]

I think it's clear that any man touching Sheeva buttocks is meant by Capcom to be an audience surrogate and thus more relatable.
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[Dracko]

Do you at least get to wield a machete?

When will games allow us to use Colombian neckties as weapons?

[bloody heartland]

Fixed the typos, added a bit about the cinematic tone to the posts.

The cover system seems to be contextual to certain battles or areas - there's a boss battle later in the game where an action promt is labled "COVER". It may have been scrapped, like the Godhand dodging or the actual interesting features, like the dehydration/heat/mirage functions they were tounting.

I was aiming to cover the gameplay walkthroughs here too, but they're boring as hell. I'm going to cover them generally and adress specific issues.

Anyone who says we can't draw conclusions about a game from high-def movies of the plot development is clearly incorrect.

[Cocaine Socialist]

Y'all should play Madworld instead.
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[Predator Goose]

[spinach]

you see sheva ass-first

subtlety has no place here


booj, there's a better way to go about this, man, don't be that guy

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you know in james' defense he has said many many many times in the past that re4 is one of the three best games of all time so he's at least not an RE anti-fanboy or "hater", if you will, for whatever that's worth
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[Predator Goose]

No, I agree, his problem isn't with RE in general but with RE5 in particular, based on trailers and the demo. He's already convinced of the game's moral bankruptcy to the point where he won't even play the game.
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Let's have a Dreamcast week guys. If only as an excuse for me to play Project Justice.

[Cocaine Socialist]

People still need to be convinced on this game's moral bankruptcy?
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[108]

[spinach]

[Predator Goose]

[boojiboy7]

[Dracko]

[spinach]

trolling him isn't a suitable counter, booj, it only serves to hurt your case

quick word on bias: you will never find an unbiased work, from any man

[Predator Goose]

My point is that he's already judged it. I think you're wrong about judging a game, in its entirety, without playing it, but that's rather irrelevant. I don't really care what he should or shouldn't do, I'm merely pointing out that it's instructive to be aware of where he's coming from.

So just ignore me and go on about talking about the game.

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[spinach]

[spinach]

[Predator Goose]

[spinach]

as realistic as it looks, goose, that is not present day spain

anachronism has nothing to do with how real a thing looks

[Predator Goose]

Backpedaling a bit here, I was mistaken as to the meaning of anachronism.

I hardly think a modern rural village in Spain looks incredibly different than what was portrayed in RE4's opening though. The castle on the other hand does definitely pull from times bygone though, no doubt. Still, it's hard to argue from RE5's opening that it's much more realistic than RE4 as it takes more than the opening for RE4 to get into its anachronisms and absurdities.

Edit: Yeah, like I said, I was wrong about the meaning of anachronism. But the observation that the opening of RE5 isn't drastically more realistic than the opening of RE4 still stands.
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Let's have a Dreamcast week guys. If only as an excuse for me to play Project Justice.

[spinach]

show us, please

[Dracko]

Predator Goose has never ventured out into the world FYI

You can judge the game's imagery by its footage, PG!

That's why they call it a video!

Because you can watch things!

[Predator Goose]

[Dracko]

Then what were you bitching for?

Jesus, kid. I don't think you even know what you're complaining about half the time.

[Predator Goose]

I think now I'm bitching about how people can't ignore a windbag like me and don't know the meaning of words like "irrelevant". <huff>

(Seriously, I pointed out that James was biased. Believe more or don't, I don't give a shit, and go on talking about the fucking game. I'm about as interesting as a doorstop for christ's sakes)
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Let's have a Dreamcast week guys. If only as an excuse for me to play Project Justice.

[bloody heartland]

I do plan to play the game, I just don't plan to buy it new, and I intend to buy it as part of a used bundle so as little of my dollar possible goes specifically to RE5.

I'm worried that the price of this intellectual curiosity will be to ruin RE4 for me for all time, though.

This thread is for specific discussion of the details within Resident Evil 5. My opinion of the game has evolved from genuine interest (pre-Africa reveal) to caution (Africa reveal) to distain (Capcom's cack-handed hype ramp-up and GOW aping in place of all the lovely elements of 4) and finally now, where the whole thing has been revealed as a canon-heavy snoozefest with completely uninspired character design and dubious racial politics.

I've never claimed this game was klan propaganda, merely a work of insipid ignorance. The demo bore that out pretty well: the cutscenes are appalling.

I can certainly say the level design looks boring right?

Anyway: Booji, either engage this above ad-hominems (which is why I SPECIFICALLY started a fresh thread) and get down to the nitty gritty or leave. I don't have time for your vendetta, neither do the good people here. I made this thread to simulate debate, so debate.

[bloody heartland]

In other words, all that biased me regarding RE5 was RE5.

[Predator Goose]

[dmauro]

James, stop replying to posts trying to derail the thread and keep the cutscene breakdowns coming. I'm pretty interested here.
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[boojiboy7]

[Predator Goose]