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icycalm
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 Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: Blue Dragon |
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Does anyone here have an opinion on this game?
Better yet, has anyone actually played it?
I think I must be half-way through the first disc (there are three), and it is by far the best-looking Xbox 360 game I've yet seen (and I've seen most of them), but it is incredibly easy and linear, and I am having a hard time justifying investing more time in it -- though of course I most certainly will.
As an example of how easy it is, every time someone gets killed they are automatically resurrected right after the battle. Even if you lose Shu -- the main character -- you can still keep going as long as at least one character makes it.
Also, health and mana-restoring potions literally grow on trees.
Did I mention it's absolutely gorgeous? The screens don't do it justice, and the artstyle grows on you like you wouldn't believe. Also, best enemy designs I've seen in ANY game. |
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Psycho Ant
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:48 pm |
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As an example of how easy it is, every time someone gets killed they are automatically resurrected right after the battle. Even if you lose Shu -- the main character -- you can still keep going as long as at least one character makes it.
Also, health and mana-restoring potions literally grow on trees.
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This is the same as Rogue Galaxy really, healing potions up the wazoo and characters being resurrected after battle. They are only resurrected with one hitpoint though. Are they resurrected with full health in Blue Dragon? |
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Scofflaw
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: Re: Blue Dragon |
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| Pikachu wrote: |
Did I mention it's absolutely gorgeous? The screens don't do it justice, and the artstyle grows on you like you wouldn't believe. Also, best enemy designs I've seen in ANY game. |
i've only seen screenshots, but the art style kind of makes me think of what earthbound would look like in 3d on the 360. simple and bright
when is this supposed to come out in the states?
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icycalm
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:14 am |
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| Psycho Ant wrote: |
| This is the same as Rogue Galaxy really, healing potions up the wazoo and characters being resurrected after battle. They are only resurrected with one hitpoint though. Are they resurrected with full health in Blue Dragon? |
Nope, one hitpoint here as well.
What a farce, eh? When will they learn?
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| when is this supposed to come out in the states? |
The US section of xbox.com currently lists Blue Dragon as TBD... |
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Waffen
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:18 am Post subject: Re: Blue Dragon |
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wtf?
this guy's back?
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JamesE
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:08 am Post subject: Re: Blue Dragon |
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wtf?
this guy's back? |
He's the Roger Erbert of reviews |
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Mr Mustache
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Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:10 am |
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James are there pedo elements in Blue Dragon?
Also, if this game looks so nice, why not keep playing it? Is difficulty such an issue?
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haze
la belle poney sans merci
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:21 am |
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| being resurrected after battles gets rid of all the jRPG BULLSHIT that's been plaguing the genre for decades. Bravo! |
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fairy godmilf
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:52 am |
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| Pikachu wrote: |
| What a farce, eh? When will they learn? |
I don't know, I guess the game is for, you know. Normal people!
Keep playing, Pikachu! The optional shit is hard as shit, I swear to you.
Though only in a Final Fantasy VI kind of way.
And the customization is pretty great. By the end of the game, you'll have a pretty personalized party.
I went onto the GameFAQs board for something a couple weeks ago, only to be shocked that there were no FAQs and see that there were no threads on the messageboard other than one about the soundtrack, in which three people agreed it's "Nobuo Uematsu's worst soundtrack ever". That's funny, because I swear it's his best -- he's stopped being a videogame music composer and kind of become a musician all of a sudden.
That's GameFAQs for you, I guess.
I have a review of BD in the 2006 Fukubukuro.
(Which really does exist, really!)
Also, the BD battle system (which majorly riffs on the Final Fantasy X battle system, only adds much more strategy (all characters on-screen at all times, no character is innately suited to any one type of monster, multi-monster-party battles) is 100% stabo-approved.
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negativedge
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:31 am Post subject: Re: Blue Dragon |
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| Pikachu wrote: |
| As an example of how easy it is, every time someone gets killed they are automatically resurrected right after the battle. Even if you lose Shu -- the main character -- you can still keep going as long as at least one character makes it. |
Well, it is Final Fantasy. |
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Toto
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:20 am |
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| I agree with Tim Rogers, it's better that it's easier. Supposedly the point of RPGs is story, so why make it harder for the player to access more story? |
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extrabastardformula
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Joined: 01 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:29 am |
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Hey, ressurecting all the PCs after every battle worked in The Spirit Engine. Of course things were made hairy there by lack of healing itemsw, but still it was a lot similar.
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bort
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:46 am |
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| 108 wrote: |
| I went onto the GameFAQs board for something a couple weeks ago, only to be shocked that there were no FAQs and see that there were no threads on the messageboard other than one about the soundtrack, in which three people agreed it's "Nobuo Uematsu's worst soundtrack ever". That's funny, because I swear it's his best -- he's stopped being a videogame music composer and kind of become a musician all of a sudden. |
i downloaded the soundtrack. i haven't given it an entire listen yet, but so far it's pretty terrible i think!
mostly bland rpg tunes, and then a few that sound like bland rpg tunes but now with wonderfully synthesized string sections (ie even more bland). like he is trying to be the boring dragon quest guy or the boring ff12 guy. there are a few neat electronic tracks ("omen" for example) that i have gotten to but so far it's pretty boring yeah.
also chrono trigger revived your dudes too. and all those saga games. or was that just your HP, and if you were dead you stayed dead? i forget. |
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fairy godmilf
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:51 am |
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| bort wrote: |
| mostly bland rpg tunes, and then a few that sound like bland rpg tunes with wonderfully synthesized string sections (ie even more bland). like he is trying to be the boring dragon quest guy or the boring ff12 guy. |
Score: -1, Pixelante
Or, yeah, Uematsu is trying to be like boring Dragon Quest guy or boring FF12 guy. That is, like a musician.
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diplo
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:54 am |
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| bort wrote: |
| the boring dragon quest guy or the boring ff12 guy. |
lol |
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bort
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:07 am |
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| diplo wrote: |
| bort wrote: |
| the boring dragon quest guy or the boring ff12 guy. |
lol |
you are right
i actually like them, in the first case because of "wow this sounds like what an adventure might sound like" and in the second case it is "wow this sounds like what a movie might sound like"
this is in my expert musicloving opinion of course (you see, in addition to not-this-soundtrack, i like some amount of "music" by "musicians").
edit: this is the worst discussion ever please no one respond but still listen to the boss music it is the best shit in the world http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0ogRNuseqY |
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fairy godmilf
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:26 am |
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yeah, the boss music is horrible, horrible, terrible, terrible and amazing stuff.
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Toto
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:35 am |
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| That boss fight clip looks so bland. |
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diplo
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:52 am Post subject: Re: Blue Dragon |
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| This game looks great! after the attrocity that was FF12 we should be welcoming turn based RPG's! |
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another coma
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:26 am |
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that was actually Dio right
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fairy godmilf
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:05 am |
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| Toto wrote: |
| That boss fight clip looks so bland. |
yeah that's like the first boss fight.
there's some clever stuff later boss
don't worry boss
also i reckon it's the MULTI-ENEMY-PARTY-BATTLES that gets it pumping
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oneEIGHTkevin
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:56 am |
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does the entire game have furigana in the jp version?
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icycalm
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:30 pm |
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| 108 wrote: |
| Pikachu wrote: |
| What a farce, eh? When will they learn? |
I don't know, I guess the game is for, you know. Normal people! |
I'll take that as a compliment.
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| Keep playing, Pikachu! The optional shit is hard as shit, I swear to you. |
I sure hope so, man. After 5 minutes of fun figuring out how to initiate battles to my advantage (i.e. the back attack), I was just pressing X for like 3 hours.
But from videos I've seen you eventually get powers that you can use even before you engage in battle, so I guess I'll keep looking forward to those.
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| And the customization is pretty great. By the end of the game, you'll have a pretty personalized party. |
It'd be nice if I could have that sometime BEFORE the end, though.
| 108 wrote: |
| I went onto the GameFAQs board for something a couple weeks ago, only to be shocked that there were no FAQs and see that there were no threads on the messageboard other than one about the soundtrack, in which three people agreed it's "Nobuo Uematsu's worst soundtrack ever". That's funny, because I swear it's his best -- he's stopped being a videogame music composer and kind of become a musician all of a sudden. |
The lack of info on this game is indeed disturbing. It's like, everyone is salivating over it for fucking years, mags and sites keep going on and on about those three famous dudes that are making it, etc. etc., and then when it comes out everyone shuts up and gets back to playing Gears of War or something.
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I have a review of BD in the 2006 Fukubukuro.
(Which really does exist, really!) |
Yeah, well. We'll see about that!
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| does the entire game have furigana in the jp version? |
Yep, which is another reason I'll soldier on to the end, regardless of whether I get tired of it. It's great practice for those who don't have Tim's crazy Japanese language skills.
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Predator Goose
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: Blue Dragon |
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wtf?
this guy's back? |
He's the Roger Erbert of reviews |
Man, is there a place where he posts his reviews then? Cause I love me some Ebert, it'd be nice if there was someone as intelligent as him reviewing video games.
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Rucio
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:52 pm |
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I mean to play this game when 360s get cheaper.
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boojiboy7
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Blue Dragon |
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| Man, is there a place where he posts his reviews then? Cause I love me some Ebert, it'd be nice if there was someone as intelligent as him reviewing video games. |
Click on his banner for a link to his bullet witch review, which is on the site which has most of his other reviews. He writes a decent review, I will grant him that, though his previous board behavior, umm....yeah....well, he seems to be doing decent here, so I'm willing to let that go for now. |
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gooktime
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:27 pm |
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WIKIPEDIA lists it as June 07 US, November EU.
Assuming Wikipedia is correct, I hope this shit is region free. |
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Predator Goose
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: Blue Dragon |
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| boojiboy7 wrote: |
| Predator Goose wrote: |
| Man, is there a place where he posts his reviews then? Cause I love me some Ebert, it'd be nice if there was someone as intelligent as him reviewing video games. |
Click on his banner for a link to his bullet witch review, which is on the site which has most of his other reviews. He writes a decent review, I will grant him that, though his previous board behavior, umm....yeah....well, he seems to be doing decent here, so I'm willing to let that go for now. |
Ah, thanks for the info Pikachu and Booji. I'll check it out later today.
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Leau
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:39 pm |
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I'd be more excited about this game if the character design hadn't been done by Mr. Akira Dragonball who is a terrible terrible hack. Monster designs are pretty ok, but every human being he does is just terrible. Consistantly.
I should think that the lack of faqs should be pretty obvious; It's a japanese game that's on the 360. Never mind what people tell you; the japs just don't want it. I'm sure verbage will pick up dratically when it hits the states
For those who've played it (tim?) how's the story? I've heard no mention of it anywhere, which makes me think it isn't all that memorable. I'm not saying it has to be in order to be a really fun game, but I'm curious.
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