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So I kinda need to find two specific kinds of applications
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km



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:03 am        Reply with quote

If a package isn't in their relatively small repos, you have to get some bash script some random person used and try to run that, and hope you don't need to repeat the process with too many dependancies. I tried to install the ATI drivers and then decided that this was even more stupid and obnoxious than waiting for everything to compile. I mean, if I'm going to have to sit there and compile shit, I may as well use a nice package manager to do it. I also prefer gentoo/bsd-style init. My laptop is pretty damn fast, so I don't really worry about compile times and these days I have plenty of other things to do while I wait. And I always find myself missing USE flags wherever I go.

KMS = kernel mode setting, a new feature in 2.6.29. It's one step in the not-so-gradual revamp of the linux graphics stack - the kernel handles resolution changing and a lot more of the memory management. Anything that makes X suck less and gives me a native-res framebuffer console with improved VT switch behavior for pretty much free is a must-have to me. The only pre-packaged distro that I know that uses it is the Fedora beta.


Honestly, I find myself just sitting at the console more often than not now. With a native res fbcon and screen, the only thing I've used X for recently is Wireshark.

I think KDE is a cool project and is trying to do a lot of great things for the linux desktop, but it's not there and not actually suited to getting any real work done yet. I'm sort of working my way up to becoming a contributor to the project.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:32 pm        Reply with quote

yeah arch definitely could use some more stuff in its repos, though if i needed something that wasn't there i'd just do the old-school compile rather than worrying about whether it was registering its contents to pacman (as is what i assume those bash scripts are doing).

native res fbcon sounds really great. i'm not really familiar with kernel compiling outside of gentoo but i guess i'll give it a shot in arch. hope it's easy to get a standard .config file (or do they just check every option that isnt EXPERIMENTAL or DEPRECATED or w/e?)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:01 pm        Reply with quote

Setting up your own kernel on arch isn't any different than on Gentoo. The first config usually takes a bit of work, but there are very few options that break everything. As far as drivers go, just compile things that might be useful as modules and then pare down the list of what you compile, if you care. Make sure you add your new kernel to GRUB (/boot/grub/menu.lst). I have an entry that just says to boot /vmlinuz without a version number so that I don't have to change it every time, though you'll want to keep a known-good kernel around as option in case you break something.

If you've got a popular netbook, it's pretty likely that someone out there has a good .config you can start from. People just sit there and tweak netbook configs endlessly, for lack of any real work to do I guess.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:34 pm        Reply with quote

i mean it would be cool to just start from the .config that's used for arch downstream and change whatever i need for kms and to fix whatever options got obsoleted
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:36 pm        Reply with quote

btw have you gotten bash-completion? it rules.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:59 pm        Reply with quote

shit yeah
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:01 am        Reply with quote

it is awesome
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:20 am        Reply with quote

trying the livecd thing right now - or liveusb, rather. Unfortunately, I can only seem to grab a 256mb stick right now, so I'm going to try the 4.2 version of PuppyLinux and see what it allows me. If there's any reasons for me to use an earlier/different version, please post them as soon as possible for the maximum amount of regret when I set my system on fire.
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 5:18 am        Reply with quote

I'm temporarily commending the thread premise to ask for two specific kinds of websites, it's been something I've been meaning to ask for a while now...

You see, tonight I want to believe I had a near miss with a trojan horse. No I wasn't looking up pron, I was actually trying to track down what was apparently a doujin group mp3 arrangement of some vgm that I had heard on youtube. Usually I'm extremely careful about what sites I go to, yet for some reason something in my thought process said, you know, isohunt is pretty okay of an engine, I think torrentreactor is too! I know it wasn't Galbadia as that site never seem'd to give me trouble in the past, and I was on youtube prior.

backing up to google, my browser and pc nearly screech to a halt, and I look at the task manager and find at least 4 executable process I had never seen before EVER trying to initiate. Cut them, ran an avg, windows update, and then another safe mode scan and supposedly cleared some trojan exes and a registry entry marking them (only on the first scan), everything seems to be running okay, but I'm still very paranoid. I know this shit can usually mask itself and I'm running another scan before I go to bed, also since I'm seeing some odd exe process upon loging onto the desktop.

Back years ago you could throw any windows file name into google and get a nice reputable website that would tell you it's exact function or if it's bad news or something, but this is just no longer the case with all the shit advertising/spyware sites out there. Do the old good ones still exist in some fashion or another so that I could bookmark one for future use?

That and a few of the old online virus scanners (Housecall's online scanner, and an old Symantec one) I used to use as a quick second opinion have seemed to have vanished, or are more intrusive than I'd like. Are there some other nice online scanners out there you guys know of or have used and don't try to alter/gut stuff on your machine other than threats?
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