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Gironika
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 Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:51 pm |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
| Moving to GNU/Linux is not a solution. |
It is, especially in cases like these. Dualboot-linux saves the day when windows goes batshit due to malicious software.
Especially if one isn't very tech-savy, an OS that lets you open a certain type of file even when it's a misnamed zip/".zap"-file sounds good in my book.
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Gironika
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| Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:41 am |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
You can just use a GNU/Linux LiveCD. No need to switch to it.
If you get a lot of malicious software, Windows isn't the problem. It's you. |
If this happened a second or third time to someone, chances are not exactly high that the person will avoid it a third time round. So abandoning Win is at least the first step that hopefully makes the person look up some more things about OSs in the process of tinkering around with it, like you usually do if it comes to linux.
I've never seen a person go "dumber" just because of Linux, you know.
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Gironika
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:49 pm |
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@benoitren:
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| Except that the average user does not want to tinker with their OS, and if forced to switch to GNU/Linux, will switch to a user-friendly distro like SUSE or Ubuntu, where they will be none the wiser. |
What is "the average user" anyway?
Ubuntu runs good enough out of the box to not make you recompile kernels all the time, so it's not like it always breaks down as you suggest. Even I did take my time to learn the basics from 6.06 onwards and it really helped me in the process of understanding a lot of things that happen in the background.
@dais:
Seconding the ubuntu-suggestion, if possible a double-boot-solution is the best thing you can do. Version 8.04 is as stable as it gets right now, have been using this for what, nearly nine months now.
Just be sure not to have the latest version after the release (upcoming 9.04 in this case), the newer versions need some weeks to get all the bugs out of the way.
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Gironika
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:20 pm |
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| falsedan wrote: |
| Gironika I have spend half the day rescuing my 9.04 workstation so I agree but I had a good experience with 8.10 |
Damn, that sounds even more broken than the 8.04-release was until they fixed it via their 8.04.1-release in june.
Back then I decided to upgrade to the last version when the next one is released, so to speak 8.10 is the way to go right now, 9.04 will be an option when 9.10 is out etc. etc. Needless to say, installed 8.10 on my little brothers PC some weeks ago and it works perfect so far, even with his ATI 34something-card that wouldn't properly work last year (thumbs up to ati here, quite quick compared to the years before).
@benren:
no bad feelings, just to bring my point across:
I've had a debian-machine (maintained by a friend) some years ago, switched back to winXP for a year or so before (disappointed by some lacking functions I got used to while using debian) trying my hands at ubuntu 6.06, 6.10, Suse KDE3 whatever-version that was back then, getting kubuntu 7.04 to work really well until switching to ubuntu 8.04 now (nearly forgot that tried ubuntu 8.04 studio 64-bit as well).
Since I am maintaining my brothers computers right now I'm not really that keen to switch to another distro and go back and forth between different distros and am pretty happy with what they are offering in the _ubuntu-project, works perfectly fine for everyday use so far. Of course, I don't want to spend days compiling new drivers and software to use, so it's not like I'm a 1337-geek that is pro-linux to be cool or hip, mind you.
A bit surprising for me is the interest my siblings have in linux after seeing me use it for about three years now. Had them try their hands at Kubuntu 7.10, Kubuntu + Ubuntu 8.04, Kubuntu+Ubuntu 8.10 (KDE3+4) so far and only one of them managed to crash his distro due to some graka-driver-problems; other than that they really got accustomed to using linux so far up to the point that one of them is currently installing Ubuntu 8.10 dual-boot right now. Voluntarily, I should add.
Needless to say, two friends of mine made the ubuntu-switch as well and (despite one of them going back to winXP) I am pretty confident that the other one will be doing a proper 8.10-dual-boot-installation the next few weeks, again, voluntarily and without me interfering or forcing him.
It's not like I'm a ubuntu-fanboy and am dissing all the other distros just because of that - it's rather the experience I and some other people have made so far that makes me suggest this, disregarding any performance-issues it might have.
In my experience this distro is good enough to provide you with a basis to start from scratch, learn more about what is happening and getting the hang of it after, say, two years or so. Mileage may vary, naturally.
If you can get some friends or siblings to join you, even better then, this really is a factor that makes the switch for the less-tech-savy even more tempting since they can tag along as well, as said second friend did. He's a bit slower to learn things (not really interested in computers) but is able to use it on a daily basis without relying on me too much.
You might have a better solution, yes, but as far as I've seen it is ubuntu that has become the "mainstream" solution over the last two years or so. It might not be the best, yes, but it worked for people with as many different backgrounds and expertise as possible so far that I can wholeheartedly recommend it to DAIS.
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