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Dreamcast VGA help, anyone?

 
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Sniper Honeyviper



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:27 pm    Post subject: Dreamcast VGA help, anyone?    Reply with quote

Would have bumped my old DC thread but it got moved to Galaxy Oddity.

So I've finally acquired a (third-party) Retrobit DC VGA box in hopes of hooking the thing up to my HDTV. It worked for about five minutes, but when I turned the console off then on after that, my TV started refusing to recognize it. Unfortunately I don't have any other standard VGA-compatible monitors to test it with.

I have VGA and audio cables, both of which I have confirmed with other devices to be functional, and the input on the TV definitely works as well. The switch on the box is set to "PC", and all VGA connections are securely screwed in. I can get audio and composite video out of the box just fine, but with VGA the TV just starts searching for a signal.

I don't know how much help anyone will be able to offer, since I seem to have exhausted all possibilities. My guess is that I either inserted the cable pins wrong and fucked up the box's VGA-out, or the board was just a cheap third-party manufacture and part of it decided to die right then. I can do some minor soldering work if needed. I'd just rather not have to shell out another $35 if possible ;_;

There's probably some technical-focused DC forum out there that would have a better idea as to what's going on, links would be appreciated.

EDIT: Just tried it again and now the red LED on the box isn't coming on. Something almost definitely died.
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elvis.shrugged



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:33 am        Reply with quote

I bought a VGA box about a year ago and had similar problems. I once read that some newer HDTVs won't read them? Or something, I don't know.
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Sniper Honeyviper



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:36 am        Reply with quote

That can't be the case, because I got a clear picture out of it just fine for a short while, and my TV was made this year. I also just realized I had an old VGA computer monitor laying around and gave it another test, but the results were the same.

I found a very active "DC VGA help" thread on another forum and posted there, hopefully I can get a conclusive answer.
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elvis.shrugged



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:54 am        Reply with quote

Okay! Huh, maybe I should try mine again sometime...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:57 am        Reply with quote

Sorry if this is kind of a condescending question, but could you have accidentally flipped the PC/TV switch on the back of it?
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Sniper Honeyviper



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:24 am        Reply with quote

Believe me, I checked, and I even tried it in the TV position.
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Sniper Honeyviper



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:04 am        Reply with quote

Okay, I guess someone can lock this now, because I'm going to have to get a new one! All the wires connecting it to the Dreamcast were completely torn apart along with the plastic cover when I was disconnecting it, so I'm quite certain it was just a shoddily made piece of shit.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:48 am        Reply with quote

If you can find the ugly bright orange one, it's the one I use and I've never had any problems with it.

I think you can buy a good one from racketboy, too.
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Sniper Honeyviper



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:20 am        Reply with quote

This one?



Definitely looks a bit sturdier.
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Laurel Soup



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:34 am        Reply with quote

Retrobit's stuff is everywhere but they don't have a website. Anyone know anything about them?
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kiken



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:19 pm        Reply with quote

Sniper Honeyviper wrote:
This one?



Definitely looks a bit sturdier.


I have one of these, they work beautifully. Incredibly simple too. You can't really see it in this image, but the stereo audio out is an 1/8 inch jack located on the edge of the main unit.

I later purchased one of the Racketboy units, which are fantastic and offer Composite, S-Video and VGA.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:12 pm        Reply with quote

Speaking of which, I've tried playing my DC on some widescreen monitors and they can no longer play the DC because the resolution is too small and they don't support it anymore. Curse you, Dell monitors!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:38 am        Reply with quote

I think mine (prob another cheap knock-off that I got off ebay just a few weeks ago) might've had the same problem, since it stopped working in the same way after a few hours of use. At first I thought the plug connected to the TV came loose, but it probably just died. Thanks for the recommendation!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:57 pm        Reply with quote

I wonder if I can find a decent enough LCD monitor that won't lag that I can hook a Dreamcast up to, so that we can play CvS2 at the arcade again.
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kiken



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:08 pm        Reply with quote

nothingxs wrote:
I wonder if I can find a decent enough LCD monitor that won't lag that I can hook a Dreamcast up to, so that we can play CvS2 at the arcade again.


Acer monitors seem to be the ones that everyone likes using in competition settings... so I'd say check one of those out. Most of their current line-up of monitors include VGA, DVI and HDMI inputs as well as built-in speakers.
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Sniper Honeyviper



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:30 pm        Reply with quote

For the record, it seems most of Sharp's current monitors still have S-Video. Would be handy for Bangai-O/Giga Wing.
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kiken



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:32 am        Reply with quote

Sniper Honeyviper wrote:
For the record, it seems most of Sharp's current monitors still have S-Video. Would be handy for Bangai-O/Giga Wing.


Depends on the version of Giga Wing... both of the NTSC releases support VGA (granted, the game looks pixely as hell).
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Sniper Honeyviper



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:11 am        Reply with quote

Ah yes, forgot that it was just a PAL version thing.

At any rate, I've ordered a new one from racketboy! Hoping for not another dismal failure, it really did look great for the few minutes I had it running, noticeably crisper than PS2 component (though that might have more to do with the hardware itself.)
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