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boojiboy7
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 Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:59 pm |
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| kthorjensen wrote: |
| Yes, and your opinion is horrible. If an idiot was allowed to see two movies in his lifetime and they were Scary Movie 3 and Scary Movie 4, he'd probably say that Scary Movie 3 was "the last high water mark for movies." Hint: you are the idiot. |
Way to read Toups post, dogg. |
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boojiboy7
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:09 pm |
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| Don't cry Toups. Maybe he will read it now. Keep hope alive, sir. |
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boojiboy7
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:43 am |
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| Adilegian wrote: |
It's unfortunate that the descriptor "French" immediately puts me on my guard. I would say something like, "I wish the Germans were considered the cutting edge of Continental high culture—or someone, just not the French." But then I remember that old Germany tried to become the cutting edge of Continental culture with the cutting edge of a bayonet, so it seems less politic of a desire.
I just wish the French weren't so goddamn frou-frou in their scholarship. |
God, I am with you here. The current head of my grad program is in love with the French, which means I end up readinga decent amount of French criticism. Some of it just is bullshit, which is fine, and occasionally I find something I really like, a little idea that is fun or interesting, but it usually takes some time decoding it because the French seem, as a culture, to refuse to ever just say what the fuck they mean. I know some of it is translation issues, but a lot of it certainly seem to be from the original writing.
Now, as for the viability of the ideas, well, yeah, not always great. Like I said, fun and interesting occasionally.
| Adilegian wrote: |
Though I'd like to add (without being deliberately snarky toward you, DarwinMayflower) that the notion of "videogame criticism" will become a lot more credible when its professionals demonstrate versatile experience with traditional arts.
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In other words, I think that anyone attempting to establish videogames as art will need to seriously invest him(her)self in putting videogames in the context of human cultural history. It's a big task! I'd like to see it done, and maybe help a little in my own way.
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The more I work on SH2 as some sort of work to examine (which as of now consists of a lot of notes I take and random thoughts in my head that will hopefully become more concrete over the course of this week) the more I realize that you are exactly right on this Adilegain. Just the issues of this game alone are not merely ones of film (though as a game it iclearly owes a large debt as such) but involve the psychology of the player him/herself, as well as issues of realism in videogames (which got me thinking on this project in a different way, since I am taking a seminar on literary realism right now) and possibly a whole bunch of other stuff.
I was initially approaching this project from a pretty much literary perspective, and that isn't going to work, simply because games don't work as that. I mean, there is part of that there, but there is a lot of other stuff going on that that approach can't encapsulate. It kinda makes doing this seem like a lot of work, but it interesting in that I am going to have to place the game in a lot more context than merely arguing about a piece of literature. |
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