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Michel Gondry says that Games aren't Art.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:25 am        Reply with quote

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Ignortant game playing American not giving a fuck about some French director ITT.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:00 am        Reply with quote

Interstellar Dinghy wrote:
guys i don't think dancing is art so i guess art is pretty subjective, huh

Nope, you're probably just wrong because people with monocles don't agree with you.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:18 pm        Reply with quote

I think that everyone here is both giving too much validity to the inital statement, and spending too much time on this argument.

Games are art. It's not a statement about which is more artistic, or less a waste of time. Now how important they are as art or how much thought, passion, and time went into the art's creation are something possibly looking into.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:20 pm        Reply with quote

IceTyger wrote:
I'm trying to think of something cool to say about the idea of games as a sporting event, but I keep thinking of them as a mixed martial arts tourney where I'm trying to use fifty styles all at once.

Check out "There’s More to Gaming than Just Gaming" by Erica L. Van Ostrand in issue 7 of The Gamer's Quarter.

Rucio wrote:
Videogames are not high art yet.

Depends on what you consider "high art" and how you want to argue it. There are a few museums which display videogames and videogame related items. It could be argued that this constitutes them as high art.
insertcredit.com wrote:
A new museum in japan is putting on an exhibit of the japanese power of expression, and naturally this includes games. Game Watch has a small report of the section, complete with images. It's only running til the 4th, so if you're in japan and interested, now's the time to go. They have some playable stuff (including space invaders), but it's mostly just sterile stuff for looking at on white columns. Not quite as cool as the TV Game Museum we mentioned on July 17, 2004, but still rather nice. Thanks to shadowfamicom for mailing the link.



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:45 pm        Reply with quote

Predator Goose wrote:
Can high art be funny?

I hear that Shakespeare wrote a few comedies.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:47 pm        Reply with quote

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Guys what is "Art"?


“conscious production or arrangement of sounds, colors, forms, movements, or other elements”
and
“human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature”
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:33 pm        Reply with quote

aerisdead wrote:
Shapermc wrote:
I hear that Shakespeare wrote a few comedies.


I thought Shakespeare's stuff was lowest common denominator, crowd pleasing stuff?

It's funny how that ended up isn't it?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:27 pm        Reply with quote

Deets wrote:
Go nuts, guys!

Going nuts itt
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:23 pm        Reply with quote

The Watchmen relies too heavily on standard text (lit format) as a crutch.

Watchmen fails!

(From Hell is a much better book by Moore)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:04 pm        Reply with quote

Icy, you forgot the j/k and the winking smile.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:10 am        Reply with quote

Games are the stages for which you can enact your own version of a play with the script and set you are given.
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