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Michel Gondry says that Games aren't Art.

 
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Martial Loh



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Location: London, UK

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:19 am    Post subject: Michel Gondry says that Games aren't Art.    Reply with quote

Ok, so now that I've hopefully got your collective attentions, he didn't actually say this. I just got back from a preview screening of The Science of Sleep and he was there for a post-screening Q&A session. In one of his answers he said that he banned his son from playing videogames, because they weren't rewarding - or rather - the sense of achievement after ploughing through levels & quests was not very fulfilling, say compared to finishing making a film or a painting.

On the tube journey home, I realised I should have asked him "but what about wasting time watching films?". Although the mediums and the experiences that you receive are rather different - I personally wouldn't be able to say one was more fulfilling than the other. Stories, emotion and ideas are conveyed successfully - and I guess its all personal and subjective, making it all very hard to quantify in the end!

Looking at what he said from a slightly skewed angle, creating stuff is definitely something which makes you feel proud. Without an audience though...what would be the point of it all? The circular nature of the argument annoys me greatly..

Anyway, I just felt the need to post this. I guess my question to you is - do you feel that games are a relative waste of time?

I enjoyed the film a lot - though his next project sounds even more awesome....i've darkened the text in case you'd rather be surprised..(spoiler tag? how? lolkthxbai)

2 guys - jack black & mos def work in a video store... one of them accidentally gets magnetised, whilst trying to sabotage a powerplant and ends up erasing all the tapes in the store. As a coverup, they refilm all the movies they wiped by themselves. Apparently Robocop was one of them. Awesome.
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Martial Loh



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:40 am        Reply with quote

firenze wrote:

Posting to a video game message board is a far bigger waste of time. I'm not being sarcastic here, and I'm plenty guilty too. It's interesting, engaging, whatever... but on the scale of wastefulness, selectbutton > playing Zelda.


You know, I think this is probably the answer I'm looking for.
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Martial Loh



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:53 am        Reply with quote

Adilegian wrote:
I have been asked to participate in a podcast debate on whether or not games are art. This thread has helped me remember the main threads of argument! Thanks!


win.
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It's fun to sit back and watch someone else's movie, or play their game, or view their painting.

That's obviously time-waster talk.
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The ending was slightly ambiguous, which speaks to Gondry's probable lack of balls, but still one of the more memorable, likeable movies I've ever seen.

Pretty much sums up Science of Sleep too..I think he's onto something.
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Martial Loh



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:25 am        Reply with quote

wow. i've forgotten what my original point, or lack of point, was now.. anyway, I'll stick with whoever's answer of "posting on forums is the biggest waste of time". And here we are.

Kemonozume was probably the best animated series I saw in 2006. I quite enjoyed finally finishing Planetes too.

Predator Goose- isn't funny also personal/subjective? I'd say yes to your question. Whether it stops being "high" as a result, I don't know.
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